The Father, the Son (Jesus), and the Holy Spirit? All three persons God themselves and yet one God at the same time?
I have never heard it explained quite that way before; it makes more sense than how many others attempt to explain itGod the Father...God OF man.
God the Son...God as man.
God the Holy Spirit...God within man.
The Holy Trinity
It is Truth, and a cornerstone of the Christian Faith.
Hi LL, no, this is not God, it is complete nonsense from start to finish, and there is not one proponent on this site that will ever be able to explain exactly how '1 God in 3' is feasible, or a 'god-man', and then they will chalk-up their ignorance to divine mystery. Nor will they be able to explain the necessity of a god-man to redeem man (but they will try, and only with non-biblical speculations and nonsense).The Father, the Son (Jesus), and the Holy Spirit? All three persons God themselves and yet one God at the same time?
Hi LL, no, this is not God, it is complete nonsense from start to finish, and there is not one proponent on this site that will ever be able to explain exactly how '1 God in 3' is feasible, or a 'god-man', and then they will chalk-up their ignorance to divine mystery. Nor will they be able to explain the necessity of a god-man to redeem man (but they will try, and only with non-biblical speculations and nonsense).
1. You will never find any trinitarian terminology in the Bible, ie; three-in-one, two-in-one (natures of Christ), God the Son, God the Holy Spirit, god-man, triune or trinity, one essence, etc...
2. Not one conversion that took place in the new Testament, used a trinitarian formula to save the convert(s), not one!
3. Not one of the major characters in the Bible ever prayed to a triune god. The most definitive doxologies, worships, prayers and exaltations, by the most devout men, King David, Abraham, Job, Jacob, etc.. never prayed to a triune god in any manner whatsoever. And it is from these men that we gain the definitive attributes of God.
4. Of all the leading trinitarian proponents, not one will affirm that the trinity is either a formal or explicit teaching in the Bible, but nothing more than inferred. i.e. There was much more ado in the Bible of much lesser topics, as in the council in Jerusalem over the question of the Law, chapters after chapter on both Faith-over-works and Gentiles allowed in the kingdom, Pastorship, spouses, gifts of the spirit, hierarchy in the Church and Church government, etc....
5. God is only ever called the Father throughout the entire Bible. And this, countless, countless, countless times.
6. The Holy Spirit receives no praise or glory ever, especially in the inordinate manner that both the Father and the Son do. He's not even mentioned in the Book of Revelation, which is where both God and Jesus are in their exalted and eternal states, and praised and worshiped accordingly.
7. God's ontology is not a mystery, for we are created in his image. His attributes, as in their magnitude, are beyond fathoming, as much as a student can't fathom the expertise of his master, but he understands, discipline, development, control, skill and progression.
8. Never, ever is the atonement explained as requiring a god-man, but constantly it emphasizes the manhood of Christ when speaking in a soteriological context.
9. Not one trinitarian adherent will ever be able to explain the necessity of having 3 omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent persons in the Godhead (utter redundancy), nor what a god-man is and how this relationship is plausible (everything that defines a human, is antithetical to what defines divinity, ...no such thing as a square circle).
10. After all's been said and done, trinitarians will throw both their hands in the air and say, 'hey, it's a mystery?'
Hello Flint, i gave a very reasonable, insightful and accurate depiction of what the Bible, in a comprehensive and over-arching manner, states on the matter. I was very responsible and rather competent in the method that I approached this.This is why Jesus said you'll know them by there fruit. This brothers and sisters is a unsaved false convert, this is all false and this person doesn't know God. That's why he doesn't believe in the Triune God of the bible called Yahweh.
God has always been a Triune God, only this God can save sinners, since hes the only God that saves:
Genesis 1:26 Then God said, “Let us make man in our image, after our likeness. And let them have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over the livestock and over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.”
Make sure your not deceived, since he is promoting the doctrine of Devils and is of Satan. (perhaps he will get saved... but in the mean time know this)
Hello Flint, i gave a very reasonable, insightful and accurate depiction of what the Bible, in a comprehensive and over-arching manner, states on the matter. I was very responsible and rather competent in the method that I approached this.
I don't believe that you, or anyone, can refute a single point that I brought up? One, without exception, will be forced to avoid my points, and just beat around the bush with a bunch of eisegetical, implicit (at best) and isolated verses, which is a fundamentally unacceptable practice when attempting to qualify such an enigmatic and paramount 'doctrine'.
My approach and understanding is very sound and reasonable!
Magenta, you did not perceive the meaningless nonsense that dodgingstones just tried to impart and rationalize?I have never heard it explained quite that way before; it makes more sense than how many others attempt to explain it
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Yeah one being .. God in three persons/expressions.
Co.. eternal
Co.. equal
Co..existing
I've always had trouble with the term persons.. because that seems completely separate beings, but 'persons' doesn't have to mean seperate.
As for requiring a God-man. I prefer the term God in the flesh. I do believe it was required because a regular man cannot redeem another man. The Bible does teach this:8. Never, ever is the atonement explained as requiring a god-man, but constantly it emphasizes the manhood of Christ when speaking in a soteriological context.
Possibly, depends on the rules, ....but, without exception, God cannot redeem man from God. God does not obey himself and/or atone himself from his own wrath. Or are we making a mockery of God's judicial system?As for requiring a God-man. I prefer the term God in the flesh. I do believe it was required because a regular man cannot redeem another man. The Bible does teach this:
Psalm 49:7
Truly no man can ransom another, or give to God the price of his life,
So I guess friending me on Facebook is out of the question then?Im not gonna to enter into a fruitless discussion with a heretic, leading people to hell, sorry.
So I guess friending me on Facebook is out of the question then?