Are You a Correct Believer in Jesus Christ?

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Are You a Correct Believer in Jesus Christ?


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How many times have you raised the dead, healed the sick and cast out devils? Be specific.

Matthew 10:8 King James Version (KJV)

8 Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give.


To be Theologically Correct, all the above works are required and selling all your possessions. Those that have not received the Power to do these works have been taught and embraced Devil's\Satan's Theology. The Devil's/Satan's Theology renders Elohim's/God's Theology Impotent/Powerless.
 

gb9

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Matthew 10:8 King James Version (KJV)

8 Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give.


To be Theologically Correct, all the above works are required and selling all your possessions. Those that have not received the Power to do these works have been taught and embraced Devil's\Satan's Theology. The Devil's/Satan's Theology renders Elohim's/God's Theology Impotent/Powerless.
and have you done these things??
 

Lightskin

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Matthew 10:8 King James Version (KJV)

8 Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give.


To be Theologically Correct, all the above works are required and selling all your possessions. Those that have not received the Power to do these works have been taught and embraced Devil's\Satan's Theology. The Devil's/Satan's Theology renders Elohim's/God's Theology Impotent/Powerless.
You didn’t answer my question.
Translation: Zero.
 
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2 Timothy 3:5 King James Version (KJV)

5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.



https://christianchat.com/threads/are-you-a-correct-believer-in-jesus-christ.188933/post-4100080

and have you done these things??
You didn’t answer my question.
Translation: Zero.

Blow The Trumpet! Lift Up The Voice!

The Billions that have not received the Power to do the works commanded by Yeshua Messiah/Jesus Christ have been taught and embraced Devil's/Satan's Theology. The Devil's/Satan's Theology has rendered those Billions Impotent/Powerless to do the works of Elohim/God and, in fact, they are not and have never been Saved.
 

gb9

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2 Timothy 3:5 King James Version (KJV)

5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.



https://christianchat.com/threads/are-you-a-correct-believer-in-jesus-christ.188933/post-4100080






Blow The Trumpet! Lift Up The Voice!

The Billions that have not received the Power to do the works commanded by Yeshua Messiah/Jesus Christ have been taught and embraced Devil's/Satan's Theology. The Devil's/Satan's Theology has rendered those Billions Impotent/Powerless to do the works of Elohim/God and, in fact, they are not and have never been Saved.
you did not answer the question. have YOU sold all you own and given it to the poor?

that would be a yes or no.

don't be a deceiver, speak up.
 

Lightskin

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2 Timothy 3:5 King James Version (KJV)

5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.



https://christianchat.com/threads/are-you-a-correct-believer-in-jesus-christ.188933/post-4100080






Blow The Trumpet! Lift Up The Voice!

The Billions that have not received the Power to do the works commanded by Yeshua Messiah/Jesus Christ have been taught and embraced Devil's/Satan's Theology. The Devil's/Satan's Theology has rendered those Billions Impotent/Powerless to do the works of Elohim/God and, in fact, they are not and have never been Saved.
Since you refuse to answer the question it would seem you fit into your last paragraph.
 

posthuman

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To be Theologically Correct, all the above works are required and selling all your possessions.
First of all,

you are conflating theology - which is 'knowledge of God' and is not a physical property at all but a mental/spiritual property - conflating it with works in the flesh, which are non-metal, non-spiritual things: physical activities and events.



Second,

1 Corinthians 12:29-30
Do all work miracles? Do all have gifts of healing?

Nobody has to exhibit every single kind of spiritual gift in order to be saved.



Third,

Jesus never told everyone to sell everything they have and give it to the poor. He told exactly one person to do that, who was a faithless unbeliever thinking he could inherit eternal life by works of his own hands.
 

posthuman

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Paul took a voluntary action.

You are an idiot if you think this is some kind of proof that Paul believes himself to be under Moses as a Christian.

You cited wrong chapter, it is Acts 21. Read verse 13.
And welcome back, btw ;)
 
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you did not answer the question. have YOU sold all you own and given it to the poor?

that would be a yes or no.

don't be a deceiver, speak up.
2 Corinthians 13:5 King James Version (KJV)

5 Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?


You are asking the wrong question. What does Elohim/God require of you?
 

Lightskin

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2 Corinthians 13:5 King James Version (KJV)

5 Examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, how that Jesus Christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?


You are asking the wrong question. What does Elohim/God require of you?
You still shamefully refuse to admit you have never raised the dead while pointing judgmental, false-accusatory fingers at others. Very interesting.
 
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Since you refuse to answer the question it would seem you fit into your last paragraph.
Romans 3:4 King James Version (KJV)

4 God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.


That might be correct and that makes Elohim/God True and every man a Liar. All Men Are Liars!
 
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First of all,

you are conflating theology - which is 'knowledge of God' and is not a physical property at all but a mental/spiritual property - conflating it with works in the flesh, which are non-metal, non-spiritual things: physical activities and events.



Second,

1 Corinthians 12:29-30
Do all work miracles? Do all have gifts of healing?

Nobody has to exhibit every single kind of spiritual gift in order to be saved.



Third,

Jesus never told everyone to sell everything they have and give it to the poor. He told exactly one person to do that, who was a faithless unbeliever thinking he could inherit eternal life by works of his own hands.
Acts 4:32-35 King James Version (KJV)

32 And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that ought of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common.

33 And with great power gave the apostles witness of the resurrection of the Lord Jesus: and great grace was upon them all.

34 Neither was there any among them that lacked: for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold,

35 And laid them down at the apostles' feet: and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need.


When Theology is embraced and practiced it is Reified. True Disciples sell all their possessions, as Yeshua/Jesus commanded.
 
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You still shamefully refuse to admit you have never raised the dead while pointing judgmental, false-accusatory fingers at others. Very interesting.
John 12:48 King James Version (KJV)

48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.


Elohim/God is the one that Judgeth by the light of his word.
 

Dino246

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When Theology is embraced and practiced it is Reified. True Disciples sell all their possessions, as Yeshua/Jesus commanded.
Jesus isn't a theology, and theology isn't a person. Reification is a logical fallacy.
 

Lightskin

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John 12:48 King James Version (KJV)

48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.


Elohim/God is the one that Judgeth by the light of his word.
Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior. Take it to the bank, sunshine.
 

posthuman

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True Disciples sell all their possessions, as Yeshua/Jesus commanded.
He instructed a man who was not His disciple to do this.

He instructed His actual disciples to do this, once:

Luke 22:36
Then He said to them, "But now, he who has a money bag, let him take [it,] and likewise a knapsack; and he who has no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one."

Does this mean true disciples have moneybags, knapsacks and swords?
 
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oh fer cryin out loud

what a waste of energy
 
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will share; after our 'conversion', we gave-burnt-sold, 'everything', only because this is what our Saviour
asked us to do, 'otherwise, we're sure we wouldn't have done this on our own', way to worldly" - anyway, we did this,
and I will add, we really were very 'worldly and rich' - comparatively"
afterwards, the relief that followed this 'act of obedience' was quite astounding, a Book in itself'...
but we will just end with this, if we had not witnessed/experienced Holy,other-worldly sights and sounds and wonders,
from our Holy Saviour, and totally 'believed them to be real', we would not be here right now, and sharing our blessings
with those who have the Faith and Understanding to accept what we are sharing...
:):)