Ultra bored with my church

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Locoponydirtman

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I love my church family and friends and love my church, but man I am getting bored with it.
It's mostly elderlies, and children and there just isn't anything there for me to do.
Don't get me wrong, I enjoy listening to my elderly friends share their experiences, but I prefer that sitting on a porch or lawn chair with a jar of tea.
Pastor preaches good messages and only once have I disagreed with something he preached and the was such a minor thing that it ain't worth discussion. It's just that there isn't any place to grow.
I even tried to play with the worship team, and at one time loved playing music, but I don't care to anymore.
It's kind of sad, but I may have to find someplace else to go, in order to be challenged, and have a place to grow. I want to learn more, and share what I have learned.
 

Dino246

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I can relate; I've been at churches where I wasn't 'fed,' and don't feel like my contribution (other than my cheque for offering) was appreciated. I learned to seek instruction from other sources and to treat my local church as a place where I serve, rather than expecting to feel served. That said, there comes a time to look for something else. If you have offered your services and been politely declined, I'd suggest you take a month and visit four other churches, and be praying for God's direction through it all. :)
 

Bingo

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"And, when faith becomes stagnant, ones own self fails to grow spiritually,
and one may be cut off from God, as this is a God inspired warning. Failure
of spiritual growth lies within ones own self. And, each shall be responsible
and accountable of ones own content of growth in God, and, complacency has
consequences not compatible with the 'principles' of serving God, here in the now."
~Thought to ponder~
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John146

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I love my church family and friends and love my church, but man I am getting bored with it.
It's mostly elderlies, and children and there just isn't anything there for me to do.
Don't get me wrong, I enjoy listening to my elderly friends share their experiences, but I prefer that sitting on a porch or lawn chair with a jar of tea.
Pastor preaches good messages and only once have I disagreed with something he preached and the was such a minor thing that it ain't worth discussion. It's just that there isn't any place to grow.
I even tried to play with the worship team, and at one time loved playing music, but I don't care to anymore.
It's kind of sad, but I may have to find someplace else to go, in order to be challenged, and have a place to grow. I want to learn more, and share what I have learned.
Start a church. Just a suggestion.
 

posthuman

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Start a church. Just a suggestion.
what would we have if everyone who was bored with the church they find themselves in started their own church?
if everyone who hadn't find a good teacher ordained themselves as teachers?
 

John146

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what would we have if everyone who was bored with the church they find themselves in started their own church?
if everyone who hadn't find a good teacher ordained themselves as teachers?
We’d have a lot of churches, lol.
 

stillness

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I love my church family and friends and love my church, but man I am getting bored with it.
It's mostly elderlies, and children and there just isn't anything there for me to do.
Don't get me wrong, I enjoy listening to my elderly friends share their experiences, but I prefer that sitting on a porch or lawn chair with a jar of tea.
Pastor preaches good messages and only once have I disagreed with something he preached and the was such a minor thing that it ain't worth discussion. It's just that there isn't any place to grow.
I even tried to play with the worship team, and at one time loved playing music, but I don't care to anymore.
It's kind of sad, but I may have to find someplace else to go, in order to be challenged, and have a place to grow. I want to learn more, and share what I have learned.
"The land is set before you." A Journey alone with God, led by His Spirit to grow up in Him. This Journey can't be learned by man. The inner life of Jesus is hidden in solitude and unless we are led by His Spirit we don't know the Way. Admiration worship is in secret, to find Him openly in everything. "He that is joined to the Lord becomes one Spirit with Him." "The Spirit helps us in our infirmities, as we don't know how to pray as we should, but the Spirit Himself makes intercession for us with groans that can’t be uttered."
The best sermon I heard on a Journey alone with God is almost fourth years old, never heard it since.


The Way of perfection revealed in creation:
"The invisible things of Him from the creation ofthe world are clearly seen, being understood by things that are made." "There are three things too wonderful for me, yes four which I can't attain to: the way of an eagle in the air, the way of a serpent up a rock, the way of a ship in the midst of the sea, and the way of a man with amaiden."

"The way of an eagle in the air”
Soaring effortlessly on rising air currents:
"Even the youth will be weary, and the will of young men exhausted; but they that wait on the Lord shall renew strength: they shall mount up with wings as eagles, they shall run and not be weary, they shall walk and not faint."
When fledglings learn to fly, some won't learn at once the use of their wings to reach the updraft and soar. They end up on the ground to fend for themselves until willing to learn. Identified with creature comfort, we will not learn to soar with God; but having had a taste as brief as it was won't be forgotten. We experience this from time to time in worship, but until we learn obedience of faith we lose direction of the wind of the Spirit and end up back on the ground, to "Run and not be weary" of those desiring control, and "walk and not faint" from trouble and fears. One such eaglet like myself who would not learn at once was found by a farmer and nurtured in his chicken coop for a while, until the imprinted memory of soaring,overtook the comfort zone that no longer satisfied and disappeared to destiny.

"The way of a snake up a rock"
Climbing a rock by making a vacuum with its belly against the rock:
"I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: you therefore, wise as serpents and harmless as doves." To seek God in our heart and continually return to Him, to become One with "The Rock that ishigher than I." To abide in Him and learn to persevere in the Way; avoiding the sand and filth of the world that would break oneness between us and the Rock and cause our downfall: not to be blinded by self-sufficiency and resist the influence of Grace: to suffer all things with a single eye to please Him, "Harmless as doves." Neglect of Interior Life is not remaining in Him who Is the Life of the vine, the God of all comfort. "You shall seek Me and find, when you search for Me with all your heart."

"The way of a ship in the midst of the sea
"There is always a way with the wind:
"And we know that all things work together for good to them that Love God, those called to His purpose."
Every journey has its beginning, progress andfulfillment; beginning in prayer is labor until we enter into rest in God. Cords are loosed to push off from the old port, to clear harbor and put to sea: we leave creature entanglements in the labor of beginning, to proceed to theinterior, an inner journey in the kingdom of heaven within under the rule ofHis Spirit. Laid bare in prayer exposes areas of our heart held back, to yield our whole heart into the wind of the Spirit. Leaving familiar land behind and spreading sails in the wind of the open sea, we proceed so swiftly that oars are useless and laid aside: prayer becomes effortless. When winds are contrary we progress by tacking into the wind: tactful to get past fears and complaining, to turn to the Lord resting in the ship. We rest from our labor and glide rapidly along without toil and make more Way in one hour than a day rowing on our efforts. The comparison of an outpouring of the Holy Spirit is so much greater, that in a day yielding to His Spirit advances us inwardly more than a year on our own efforts. "Strive to enter His rest." "For a day in Your courts is better than a thousand elsewhere."
"The way of a man with a maiden"
A new relationship effortlessly drawn to Love:
"Truly I tell you, whatever you bind on earth willbe bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven. Again, truly I tell you that if two of you on earth agree about anything they shall ask, it will be done for them of my Father in heaven. For where two ormore gather in My Name, there I Am with them.”
The Song of songs is similarity of romantic love and friendship Love with God. Love is its own reward, motivating therelationship of its own accord, to cease from ourselves and find rest in the Beloved. While thanksgiving rules the heart, what we see and hear, reason and speak, or eat and drink, does not distract from Love. Neither does our prayer need to be filled with words, but agreement of Love. Agreement more wonderful than we could dream becomes reality and nothing else real. Likewise when God is our first Love we enter into the wisdom of God as reality and nothing else real. "From now on we know no man after the flesh." "Without Love I am nothing." This is not too wonderful to experience in romantic love, but we don’t attain to remain on this mountaintop. "In the world you will have trouble, but be of good cheer I have overcome the world." When we desire to be borne emotionally by our mate, we sink in a relationship of expectations, rather than a relationship with the Lord. While we are not One with God as we should the relationship becomes work. We long to be loved intimately and carried emotionally but having left our first Love, what was once effortless is now tiring. We suffer many ups and down to learn to cease from ourselves and find our rest in God. Even trying to impress our mate we don't Love as God Loves, but God is with us in trouble and we can’t without Him put away our divided spirit that interrupted Him. To guard our hearts from taking things in our hands again by the influence of Grace. When there is no one left to distract us, Jesus is the Door and the Way." To cease planning and wishing with imagination and enter in a journey of discovery we can’t imagine.
 

posthuman

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I love my church family and friends and love my church, but man I am getting bored with it.
It's mostly elderlies, and children and there just isn't anything there for me to do.
Don't get me wrong, I enjoy listening to my elderly friends share their experiences, but I prefer that sitting on a porch or lawn chair with a jar of tea.
Pastor preaches good messages and only once have I disagreed with something he preached and the was such a minor thing that it ain't worth discussion. It's just that there isn't any place to grow.
I even tried to play with the worship team, and at one time loved playing music, but I don't care to anymore.
It's kind of sad, but I may have to find someplace else to go, in order to be challenged, and have a place to grow. I want to learn more, and share what I have learned.
what about bible study groups with some of the elders? or whoever is genuinely interested in diving deeper into the scripture than what's generally in preaching?
if your church doesn't have anything like that organized already, maybe you could try to start that. find a couple of people and see if you can meet together once or twice a week?
 

stillness

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Walk trough the valley
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with weird names, meeting in shopping plazas, with like 8 members . . :unsure:

hmm i think this may have already happened :LOL:
What if the opposite is True, that the Church was not intended to be a large building, but "Where 2 more are gathered in My Name there I Am." And that most people are drawn to successful men building large buildings instead of walking in the Spirit. And as far as strange doctrine, as you say, there is no need to be afraid of that happrning: it already did.
 

posthuman

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What if the opposite is True, that the Church was not intended to be a large building, but "Where 2 more are gathered in My Name there I Am." And that most people are drawn to successful men building large buildings instead of walking in the Spirit. And as far as strange doctrine, as you say, there is no need to be afraid of that happrning: it already did.
what if we're meant to both come together en masse and fellowship, and also not to be satisfied with spectating a well-rehearsed motivational speech with a little music & ritual once a week, but to regularly and often join each other in more intimate and involved study, actually devoting ourselves to growing in knowledge of Him?

but of those churches who do have '
bible study' groups with smaller numbers of people, where we can interact, and ask questions, and all can give input - how many people in the church actually do that? 10% or less?

IMO we've got churches by the armfuls, but they're mostly full of people who hardly even know what's in the Book, and largely don't particularly have much interest in finding out. and a lot of preaching caters to that, to fill pews. deep, involved teaching from pulpits does the opposite - it drives people away. it's tragic :(


does the record in the NT show only small groups or also crowds? does it describe believers as being involved with each other & motivated to grow? or as disinterested bystanders who show up once in a while to tick a box?
 
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TheIndianGirl

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You can't leave a church just because you are bored with it. Only reason to leave is if the church is doctrinilly unsound, or perhaps you find yourself in a different denomination. If you are not being "fed" tell this to the pastor.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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You can't leave a church just because you are bored with it. Only reason to leave is if the church is doctrinilly unsound, or perhaps you find yourself in a different denomination. If you are not being "fed" tell this to the pastor.
Who made that rule?
 
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Locoponydirtman

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what about bible study groups with some of the elders? or whoever is genuinely interested in diving deeper into the scripture than what's generally in preaching?
if your church doesn't have anything like that organized already, maybe you could try to start that. find a couple of people and see if you can meet together once or twice a week?
Tried that they don't like driving after dark, and I work day time hours.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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Start a church. Just a suggestion.
Yes I thought of that and was going to my pastor for ordination, and he agreed, but there is nothing happening. I put my resume into a church looking for a pastor.
 

jacob_g

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I love my church family and friends and love my church, but man I am getting bored with it.
It's mostly elderlies, and children and there just isn't anything there for me to do.
Don't get me wrong, I enjoy listening to my elderly friends share their experiences, but I prefer that sitting on a porch or lawn chair with a jar of tea.
Pastor preaches good messages and only once have I disagreed with something he preached and the was such a minor thing that it ain't worth discussion. It's just that there isn't any place to grow.
I even tried to play with the worship team, and at one time loved playing music, but I don't care to anymore.
It's kind of sad, but I may have to find someplace else to go, in order to be challenged, and have a place to grow. I want to learn more, and share what I have learned.
I bet they need a janitor, or someone to clean the toilet... every week.... the least will be the first... Where is your heart?
 
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Locoponydirtman

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I bet they need a janitor, or someone to clean the toilet... every week.... the least will be the first... Where is your heart?
They have a hired company for that. I asked the pastor, he said it's best so people don't complain about how it's done.