So You Want to Attain Righteousness via the Law?

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JaumeJ

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So many people seem to have our Father on trial, accused, and convicted. It is this or they simply do not believe the Word.
 

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So many people seem to have our Father on trial, accused, and convicted. It is this or they simply do not believe the Word.
2 Timothy 2:9 (KJV) Wherein I suffer trouble, as an evil doer, even unto bonds; but the word of God is not bound. (jail)
 

JaumeJ

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2 Timothy 2:9 (KJV) Wherein I suffer trouble, as an evil doer, even unto bonds; but the word of God is not bound. (jail)
Is myh posst addressing you? I believe it is an observation of which I may share in discussion. This is directed to you and to all.
 

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Is myh posst addressing you? I believe it is an observation of which I may share in discussion. This is directed to you and to all.
Your post was so general, I thought it deserved a reply in order to unpack it's purpose. My reply was designed to draw out your intended meaning.
 

JaumeJ

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The old bait and swithc, not my way. Thanks for th e new light shed.
 

Wall

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Oh good grief. I am saying that that verse you are quoting from Peter is in the middle of his discussing end times and God's long suffering.
It has nothing to do with Paul's writings on the use of the law.
Well....i think ill stick to what ive said as i have scripture to back up my belief.

ACTS 25 [7] And when he was come, the Jews which came down from Jerusalem stood round about, and laid many and grievous complaints against Paul, which they could not prove. [8] While he answered for himself, NEITHER AGAINST THE LAW OF THE JEWS, neither against the temple, nor yet against Caesar, HAVE I OFFENDED ANY THING AT ALL.

Looks like the Jews of Pauls time were saying the same things im hearing now from youse guys. Paul set them straight. He has done nothing to offend the law of the Jews
 

Nehemiah6

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Looks like the Jews of Pauls time were saying the same things im hearing now from youse guys. Paul set them straight. He has done nothing to offend the law of the Jews
Seems like you are taking a passage out of context to prove your point. Also seems like you make this a habit.
 

UnoiAmarah

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So You Want to Attain Righteousness via the Law?...Have fun.
Well, it is written, "...for he who comes to God must believe he is..." so if one considers 'the law' to be a requirement then wouldn't the law of truth require one to believe in the existence of God before they could attain righteousness?

And, behold, the word of the LORD came unto him, saying, This shall not be thine heir; but he that shall come forth out of thine own bowels shall be thine heir. And he brought him forth abroad, and said, Look now toward heaven, and tell the stars, if thou be able to number them: and he said unto him, So shall thy seed be. And he believed in the LORD; and he counted it to him for righteousness.
Gen 15:4-6
 

Wall

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Seems like you are taking a passage out of context to prove your point. Also seems like you make this a habit.
ACTS 25 [7] And when he was come, the Jews which came down from Jerusalem stood round about, and laid many and grievous complaints against Paul, which they could not prove. [8] While he answered for himself, NEITHER AGAINST THE LAW OF THE JEWS, neither against the temple, nor yet against Caesar, HAVE I OFFENDED ANY THING AT ALL

So tell me HOW ive taken this scripture out of context. It says what it says. It means what it says.
 

Wall

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Seems like you are taking a passage out of context to prove your point. Also seems like you make this a habit.
Are ALL these new covenant scriptures taken out of context as you claim?

DO YOU WANT ETERNAL LIFE
MATT.19 [16] And, behold, one came and said unto him, GOOD MASTER, WHAT GOOD THING SHALL I DO, THAT I MAY HAVE ETERNAL LIFE?[17] And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS.[18] He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,

DO YOU KNOW GOD
1 JOHN 2 [1] My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: [2] And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world. [3] AND HEREBY WE DO KNOW THAT WE KNOW HIM, IF WE KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS. [4] He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

HAVE YOU BEEN TAUGHT “JUST BELIEVE” AND YOU WILL BE SAVED
JAMES 2 [19] Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: THE DEVILS ALSO BELIEVE, and tremble.

DO YOU LOVE GOD
1 JOHN 5 [1] Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him. [2] BY THIS WE KNOW THAT WE LOVE THE CHILDREN OF GOD, WHEN WE LOVE GOD, AND KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS. [3] For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

DO YOU WANT GODS HOLY SPIRIT
JOHN 14 [15] If ye love me, KEEP MY COMMANDMENTS.[16] And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;[17] Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

HAS HEAVEN AND EARTH PASSED – YIKES! WHAT AM I STANDING ON?
MATT.5 [17] Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.[18] For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

WANT TO BE ONE OF GODS SAINTS
REV.14 [12] Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS of God, and the faith of Jesus

BEEN TAUGHT DUE TO FAITH WE NEED NOT KEEP GODS COMMANDMENTS
ROMANS 3 [31] Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.

WANT TO ENTER THE CITY - THE 1000yr PERIOD OF REST
REV.22 [14] Blessed are they that DO HIS COMMANDMENTS, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city

FROM THE WRITINGS OF PAUL
1 COR. 7 [19] Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but the KEEPING OF THE COMMANDMENTS of God.
 

JaumeJ

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many families seem to get a bit testy when this time of year rolls around……...…..more faith needed!
 
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Locoponydirtman

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Concerning the thread title statement; no, but I do want to do good because I want to honor what Jesus has done for me
 
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eternally-gratefull

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I think this is one issue paul addressed. We have to many self professed “teachers” of the law.


1 Timothy 1:7
desiring to be teachers of the law, understanding neither what they say nor the things which they affirm
 
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The Righteous must be aware of legalism. Telling other Righteous Saints what to do, but not explaining how to do the what to do! All things must always be done by Faith placed and maintained exclusively in Christ and the Finished Work at Calvary Cross, i.e., "The Blood of Jesus" (this is called the Law of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus - this is how the Holy Spirit works; Rom. 8:2) Gal. 2:18, Gal. 2:21.
 

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Concerning the thread title statement; no, but I do want to do good because I want to honor what Jesus has done for me
Yes, I agree the thread title looks like an accusation. We know we can't keep the law but because some of us effect an effort to obey God's Commandments we are defamed. We count on God's grace just like everyone else.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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I am neither a illegal list or an antinomian.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Yes, I agree the thread title looks like an accusation. We know we can't keep the law but because some of us effect an effort to obey God's Commandments we are defamed. We count on God's grace just like everyone else.
This thread is about th law as it pertains to sanctification. It is not a thread which is against obedience.

will you people please stop accusing people of doing things because you do not like what they say?
 

Deade

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This thread is about th law as it pertains to sanctification. It is not a thread which is against obedience.

will you people please stop accusing people of doing things because you do not like what they say?
Let me remind you of the thread title:

So You Want to Attain Righteousness via the Law?

It looks like an accusation to me. What was this thread about, again?
 

JaumeJ

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The thread title is actually dtrying to dissuade those who believe and are saved by grace to be disobedient, have fun, you know what is being said by the content of continuous posts attmpting to do the same.