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Who are the righteous?
1 John 3
7 Little children, let no one deceive you. He who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous. 8 He who sins is of the devil, for the devil has sinned from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil.
Who are the righteous?
1 John 3
7 Little children, let no one deceive you. He who practices righteousness is righteous, just as He is righteous. 8 He who sins is of the devil, for the devil has sinned from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that He might destroy the works of the devil.
Well disobedience without conviction.... to be able to call good evil and evil good without any sort of care for God....
That would be evidence to someone on the outside looking in.... and possibly proof to someone looking within themselves... (though they may not 'see' it in their willful ignorance)
Disobedience followed by sorrow and a desire for righteousness and forgiveness while seeing Gods will as good and seeing the opposite as wicked... would not be evidence of unbelief so much as evidence of spiritual immaturity depending on what this "disobedience" was....
A lie which hurts and burns to be brought to light is one thing....
A life of lying for personal gain without the thought of how others are effected or how much God hates that is another....
Though I would say both count as disobedience and without our Lord and savior Jesus Christ more than enough to condemn us... justly....
That would be evidence to someone on the outside looking in.... and possibly proof to someone looking within themselves... (though they may not 'see' it in their willful ignorance)
Disobedience followed by sorrow and a desire for righteousness and forgiveness while seeing Gods will as good and seeing the opposite as wicked... would not be evidence of unbelief so much as evidence of spiritual immaturity depending on what this "disobedience" was....
A lie which hurts and burns to be brought to light is one thing....
A life of lying for personal gain without the thought of how others are effected or how much God hates that is another....
Though I would say both count as disobedience and without our Lord and savior Jesus Christ more than enough to condemn us... justly....
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I am not Catholic nor do I promote their doctrine. If you die IN CHRIST you are secure. But you have a journey through life as a pilgrim, and its a walk of faith. You will be attacked by the devil through temptations. You are to respond in faith. You will be attacked by false doctrines and teachings. You are to respond in faith. If you allow yourself to slip into apostasy (loss of faith) through false doctrines or continued and unrepentant willful disobedience, then you become apostate. From which there is no return.
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So we do not know the cut off point?
A week, a year, five years?
My Gospel is based on scripture as well as reason (rational) yours not so much.
Basically you make Jesus a failure and His work a failure and you are earning your salvation that is completely clear from your statement above.
A week, a year, five years?
My Gospel is based on scripture as well as reason (rational) yours not so much.
Basically you make Jesus a failure and His work a failure and you are earning your salvation that is completely clear from your statement above.
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Praise God for giving His sheep new hearts....
We may not have the best attitude.... and He may need to correct some walks more than others..... He will even turn back and find one of His who has strayed far off....
He is so loving....
Some of us may be ahead of the group NOW.... but He loves those who He turned back for just as much as the rest.. I'm sure if we look back far enough we can see ourselves in some of those who fell behind.... we all are headed to the same place by His power ... we couldn't make it without Him
We may not have the best attitude.... and He may need to correct some walks more than others..... He will even turn back and find one of His who has strayed far off....
He is so loving....
Some of us may be ahead of the group NOW.... but He loves those who He turned back for just as much as the rest.. I'm sure if we look back far enough we can see ourselves in some of those who fell behind.... we all are headed to the same place by His power ... we couldn't make it without Him
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Yes, and as we look at Him, beholding Him, we can be transformed from glory to glory
We don’t turn from sin merely by willpower. We turn from it by submitting and abiding while He transforms us. You cannot turn from sin without heart transformation.
But resisting sin by Gods grace and abiding also opens us up wide open to transformation
I don’t do anything with the motive of trying to keep salvation. The best motive for all of it is a desire to be like Him. And that desire is God given and flows out of our new nature
But we must walk according to our new nature not our old. The motive not being to earn salvation, but to obtain the blessing and gift of Christlikeness, which is the purpose of our redemption
Predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son, that He might be the firstborn among many brethren.
We don’t turn from sin merely by willpower. We turn from it by submitting and abiding while He transforms us. You cannot turn from sin without heart transformation.
But resisting sin by Gods grace and abiding also opens us up wide open to transformation
I don’t do anything with the motive of trying to keep salvation. The best motive for all of it is a desire to be like Him. And that desire is God given and flows out of our new nature
But we must walk according to our new nature not our old. The motive not being to earn salvation, but to obtain the blessing and gift of Christlikeness, which is the purpose of our redemption
Predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son, that He might be the firstborn among many brethren.
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Listen up Chris... the only option other than Grace is Law
You teach Grace is not sufficient and the work of Christ is limited... therefore you are teaching salvation by law keeping and I have more bad news for you.......... no human was ever justified by law keeping.
It has always been a one time event by faith!
You teach Grace is not sufficient and the work of Christ is limited... therefore you are teaching salvation by law keeping and I have more bad news for you.......... no human was ever justified by law keeping.
It has always been a one time event by faith!
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