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dcontroversal said:
Ok...so let me get this straight Cainologist.....I post the following post because @VCO tells me how cold it is and YOU come back and quote me with the above.....YOU do understand the words you posted were directed at PEOPLE like YOU that peddle the same drivel that you and your cronies peddle right?

dcontroversal said:
Throw more wood in the stove ;)
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In our discussions, I do not judge where people are, that is between them and God.
Scripture is our mirror, our guide as we answer before the King.
If I am not a "sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or a slanderer, a drunkard or a swindler" then the particular verse does not apply to me.
You seem keen to judge me, but why? Do you know the concept of justice and truth?
Happy birthday by the way, it is a blessing to live so long when others have fallen by the wayside.
 
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JohnW34 said:
deductive reasoning - if you are alive, you can die, so you need to do things to stay alive. If you are dead, there is nothing you need to do because you do not exist.

So those who need to do nothing in their relationship with Jesus, do not have one.
Relationships only exist because you can distinguish between a good or evil relationship.

What are we commanded to do as our first commandment
Deut 6:5
"Love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength"

One has to be brain dead, to know a God who asks this of us, will be ok with a dead relationship.
God will just ignore the dead as not being alive - weeping and gnashing of teeth
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More error in this post.....par for the course and conflating physical life with ETERNAL SPIRITUAL LIFE absolutely reeks of an ignorance of scripture.....
 
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RebuildJesussChurch said:
Ephesus, Thyratyra, Pergamum, Sardis, Laodicea has all been saved! They were in great danger of being cut off! I know your deeds, He said. You lot are EXCELLENT Laodiceans!
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MAN.....do you even pay attention to context......THEY were not in danger of losing salvation, but rather THE CANDLESTICK REMOVED and their AUTHORITY and POSITION as a N.T. CHURCH

It is no wonder you clowns miss the mark and are void of truth....as long as you REJECT CONTEXT YOU WILL NEVER have the truth
 
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dcontroversal said:
Jesus dealt with my sin at the cross......and NOW I stand in a position of GRACE.....maybe you should TRUST JESUS by faith instead of yourself.....
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I did not know you knew what I was trusting before the Lord. Is this a word of knowledge given to you by the Lord, or are you stepping beyond your authority, and ending up in a place no one should go.

I am always touched by Gods grace, and how He works with me in my walk, Praise the Lord.
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
who is divorcing faith and works. I am divorcing works from a means of salvation
get it right man
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Exactly......they cannot grasp that truth.....so I am wondering.....we KNOW RALPH is back under a different name....wonder who else is back that has been previously banned.......
 
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JohnW34 said:
In our discussions, I do not judge where people are, that is between them and God.
Scripture is our mirror, our guide as we answer before the King.
If I am not a "sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or a slanderer, a drunkard or a swindler" then the particular verse does not apply to me.
You seem keen to judge me, but why? Do you know the concept of justice and truth?
Happy birthday by the way, it is a blessing to live so long when others have fallen by the wayside.
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Get your facts straight....what I judge by the word of GOD is the gospel you peddle.............
 
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JohnW34 said:
I did not know you knew what I was trusting before the Lord. Is this a word of knowledge given to you by the Lord, or are you stepping beyond your authority, and ending up in a place no one should go.

I am always touched by Gods grace, and how He works with me in my walk, Praise the Lord.
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and YET you devalue GRACE and FAITH by interjecting self.......do you believe salvation can be lost or forfeit? IF YES, you peddle a self sustained false gospel......that is deductive reasoning.....and the end of the end of the story regardless of how you spin it
 
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dcontroversal said:
More error in this post.....par for the course and conflating physical life with ETERNAL SPIRITUAL LIFE absolutely reeks of an ignorance of scripture.....
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Error - what error? Those who do not understand others position and can only dictate their own to the extent dictatorship is the only acceptable acknowledgement of the authority being expressed, you know a cult is being pushed.

Jesus spoke in parables so we can discover His reality and truth, choose to apply it to our lives, and experience the freedom of truth and the Kingdom. There is no power that can stand against His ways and His word. The fruit of the Holy Spirit is an appreciation of the wisdom that grows through our walk with Him.
 
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Melach said:
think about what you are saying. you are saying eternal life can end.

then it wasnt eternal. what part of "i give them eternal life and they shall NEVER perish" dont you understand?

back to drawing board with you.
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HAHAHHAHAHAH

Bible-> I give unto them eternal life

His view --> I give unto them temporary life based upon how many hoops they jump through like a poodle at the West Minister Dog SHOW
 
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dcontroversal said:
MAN.....do you even pay attention to context......THEY were not in danger of losing salvation, but rather THE CANDLESTICK REMOVED and their AUTHORITY and POSITION as a N.T. CHURCH

It is no wonder you clowns miss the mark and are void of truth....as long as you REJECT CONTEXT YOU WILL NEVER have the truth
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You crack me up, mini judge - Jesus vomits someone out of His mouth and they stay saved. Hilarious.

He who does not overcome remains saved. Good one! And on and on are the examples just from those 7 churches. Your false doctrines plug up your ears.
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
Jesus said in John 6 we will never die
I trust him
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I can tell you these guys absolutely make JESUS into a liar by their false gospels...........

eternal is not eternal
NEVER die is can die
Everlasting is temporal
KEPT means lose
lose nothing means lost something
saved to the uttermost means not saved to the uttermost
sealed unto the day of redemption means can be unsealed
irrevocable means revocable
I will pass over you means God will not pass over us
and on and on and on

It is utterly sickening and they will pay the price because they DO NOT AGREE with GOD
 
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JohnW34 said:
Error - what error? Those who do not understand others position and can only dictate their own to the extent dictatorship is the only acceptable acknowledgement of the authority being expressed, you know a cult is being pushed.

Jesus spoke in parables so we can discover His reality and truth, choose to apply it to our lives, and experience the freedom of truth and the Kingdom. There is no power that can stand against His ways and His word. The fruit of the Holy Spirit is an appreciation of the wisdom that grows through our walk with Him.
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I understand your position just fine by what you say and peddle......
 
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dcontroversal said:
and YET you devalue GRACE and FAITH by interjecting self.......do you believe salvation can be lost or forfeit? IF YES, you peddle a self sustained false gospel......that is deductive reasoning.....and the end of the end of the story regardless of how you spin it
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Put simply this is a projection of belief on to someone else.
There is not even an understanding if I have a position on salvation.

Talk about shooting oneself in the foot, judgeing before even knowing.

Judgementalism and vainity does this to someone and leads to sinful behaviour.
 
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