This video was posted as a response to a thread about hell, abraham bosom etc...
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Life after death.
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Wonderful PowerPoint presentation about body, spirit, and soul. Backs everything up with pertinent verses. Teaches the persistence of the soul, beginning at birth and extending forth into eternity, either in eternal damnation or in eternal blessedness with Jesus.
He uses the same word for the Soul and the Body , destroy ,WHEN you destroy , it is gone , When something perishes , it is gone ,
I do not care how you say it , the soul or the body ,When we say that soul will not die , We make GOD a LIER , GOD says THE soul that sineth it shall DIE , GOD is the truth ,WE are LIER , when we Don't believe GOD and go on what we think .God be with us, as HE sees fit .
He is going to bring Satan to ashes upon the ground , And he will be no more , And so HE will the sinners all so , Satan is destroyed
Eze 28:14 - 19 , AND the sinners are turn to ashes in MAL 4:1-4 And they will be gone also . eternally gone , will be their punishment not eternal burning . that would not be dead . anything that can fill pain , is not dead , THE SOUL THAT SINNETH IT SHALL DIE , Eze 18:4 & 18:20
Eternal punishment is a subset of destroy.
Sometimes the Scriptures uses the term 'destroy' (general use).
Other times it speaks of eternal punishment (specific usage).
Scripture simply clarifies itself by going from the general to the specific.
General:
And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. (Mat 10:28)
Specific:
And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name. (Rev 14:9-11)
Sometimes the Scriptures uses the term 'destroy' (general use).
Other times it speaks of eternal punishment (specific usage).
Scripture simply clarifies itself by going from the general to the specific.
General:
And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. (Mat 10:28)
Specific:
And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name. (Rev 14:9-11)
It shall die indeed... when God judged the wicked and cast them in the lake of fire....
It also uses ever , The same way , [ general uses ] I do think that when GOD , destroys and purifies this earth , at the end of the world .
that will be fore ever . Just like when a car is milted down and turn into another car . we would not call it the same old car ,it would be a new car .
AND that would be for ever & ever for the old car , the same for the earth , when HE renews the earth , time will end for this world , and restart in the new , and to me that would be forever , And the smoke that go up for ever , DOSE not mean that they are still burning . Because it don't agree with other places in the BIBLE . When the BIBLE don't agree all the way through it ,IT is because we are not seeing it the right way . JESUS's mind is far above our little minds , AND we are no different then HIS disciples ,
they didn't understand a lot of the times , GOD bless & be with you ALL as HE sees fit .
watcher2013, post: 4144792, member: 171216"]It shall die indeed... when God judged the wicked and cast them in the lake of fire....[
When the Fire is done burning the wicked ,IT will stop burning , The BIBLE says in ISA 47:14 Behold, they shall be as stubble; the fire shall burn them; they shall not deliver themselves from the power of the flame: there shall not be a coal to warm at , nor fire to sit before it. Their SOULs will be ashes up on the ground just like MAL 4:1-4 tells us .
When the Fire is done burning the wicked ,IT will stop burning , The BIBLE says in ISA 47:14 Behold, they shall be as stubble; the fire shall burn them; they shall not deliver themselves from the power of the flame: there shall not be a coal to warm at , nor fire to sit before it. Their SOULs will be ashes up on the ground just like MAL 4:1-4 tells us .
The second death is the soul being cast into the lake of fire. Satan will be cast into the lake of fire.
All shall be new. New heaven, new earth... no moon, no sun...no sea...but there will be river.rev 21-22
The fire in the lake of fire will not stop burning.
The angels who sinned will also be there in eternal torment.
Where is this lake of fire, is it in the old earth or old heaven or new heaven or new earth? The old heaven and old earth shall pass away for sure.
Its definitely not the old earth...cause the old shall pass away.
On the location, God knows he prepared it.
Mat 25:41 KJV Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
On the location, God knows he prepared it.
Mat 25:41 KJV Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
It is also not in the new earth or new heaven, so where is it?
Hell fire is not a place but a condition in the mind.
Its not in the old or new earth...
I do not want to say anything outside that is written...
The bible ia clear the angels (spirit) who sinned shall be there..
Physical...brimstone
Rev 19:20 KJV And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
But when you take the phrase ' no rest day nor night' ...That implies endless torment.
Also you can't ignore v10 which speaks of drinking of the wrath of God, nor can you ignore...
Matthew 25:46 (KJV) And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
Too many verses point to a forever punishment and to attempt to soften it is simply a denial of the gravity of man's condition apart from Jesus atoning sacrifice.
Yes Satan will be cast in the lake of fire ,Were GOD will bring HIM to ashes , Just like EZE 28:14- 19 tells us that GOD will bring him to ashes , and Satan will never be any more ,,Just like ALL the rest of the souls that get cast in the lake of FIRE ,They will be GONE also .
ashes that the righteous shall tread down , Just like MAL 4:1-4 tells will happen , and it will . GOD bless as HE sees fit
Just like Satan that GOD will bring to ashes in EZE 28:18, SO will they also will be ashes .GOD says it that settle it.
if they were made from the dust of the ground then they'll be ashes....
a spirit on the other hand are not made from the dust of the ground