The eternal punishment will be THEY will be eternally GONE , NEVER to be any . YOU to line up all the BIBLE to agree with what you believe , IF it don't WE are in a FALSE DOCTRINING .and need to come out of it .
Life after death.
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Evidently you do not understand that last statement.
Compare it to what was said to Adam, and discover what it means. Did Adam drop dead the day he sinned? Yet he did die that day since God said he would.
Souls and spirits are IMPERISHABLE. Therefore the meaning of the death of the soul needs to be determined through Scripture. Death does NOT mean annihilation but eternal separation from God in everlasting torment. "Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched".
I think there is a misunderstanding. God said...
Gen 2:17 KJV But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.
How to understand this...
1st God intended them to live forever...
The tree of life is laso in the midst...which they can freely eat...
2nd.
1Co 15:21 KJV For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
The moment adam sinned death came.so he died... he died that day...
It has nothing to do with separation with God...
Remember while we were yet sinners God loved us and Jesus died for us...
GOD was NOT tell Adam that he was going to die that day .!! THIS would have made GOD a LIER . This is GOD telling him, In the day you eat it ,you will die . THIS was was about 930 years , When the way you look at a verse and it makes GOD a LIER . THEN KNOW WE ARE NOT UNDERSTANDING it right . GOD was Just telling HIM that HE was GOING to die if he eat it . GODs NO LIER . GOD bless as HE sees fit .
eze 28 was from eze 27. Where it talks about tyrus... God gives them warning for being high minded and proud by comparing them to the sin of the cherub.
Like God compare warning to nebuchadnezzar in daniel 4.
To the king of babylon in isa 14
Tyrus in eze 28...
Well let's look at Scripture to refute what you just said: But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die. (Gen 2:17)
In plain English "You will surely die the same day that you eat that forbidden fruit". But as we know Adam did not drop dead. Which means that you must now properly understand what God said.
It surely does. Read the narrative again.
And they heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God amongst the trees of the garden. (Gen 3:8) Does that speak of separation?
So He drove out the man; and He placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life. (Gen 3:24) Does that speak of separation?
There are two deaths in the Bible.
THE FIRST DEATH = SEPARATION OF THE SOUL AND SPIRIT FROM THE BODY
THE SECOND DEATH = ETERNAL SEPARATION FROM GOD IN THE LAKE OF FIRE
All those who are separated from God after the Great While Throne Judgment suffer eternal torment.
REVELATION 14: HAS GENERAL APPLICATION TO ALL WHO WILL BE IN HELL
9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, 10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb: 11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil ,thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof , thou shalt surely die , there was no comes in the Hebrew ,it has been add & they got it in the wrong place . And by putting in the wrong makes GOD a lier .If you believe GOD a lier ,Then you can put where you want . BUT I know HE"S no A lier , And it's also put in the wrong place when JESUS talks to the thief on the Cross . GOD bless as HE sees fit .
He drove them out of the Garden because HE didn't want them to eating of the tree of life , and have eternal sinners , AS long as they were eating of the tree of life they would not have died . So HE took the tree of life from them .
Rather, we need our beliefs to line up with the bible. Respectfully, I don't see 'eternally gone' as the punishment spelled out in Scripture but rather everlasting fire etc. ...
Matthew 18:8 (KJV) Wherefore if thy hand or thy foot offend thee, cut them off, and cast them from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life halt or maimed, rather than having two hands or two feet to be cast into everlasting fire.
Matthew 25:41 (KJV) Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
Hiding themselves is not separation from God.
And the real reason why God drove them out of the garden is this.
Gen 3:22-23 KJV 22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever: 23 Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken.
Because there was a possibility that they could have eaten the fruit of the tree of life and live forever...
Never forget that and your doctrine will be in line.
1st death - caused by adam
2nd death - caused by individual action.
Yes, death entered the world...
Even if read same day or the day, the scriptures are harmonious...
Rom 5:12 KJV Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
That is what I said , And The only thing is there is a lot of scriptures that don't line up with what you believe , Jude1:7 Sodom & Gomorrha was burnt with the eternal fire , But it's not still burning today , why ? it's because it's effects of the fire is what is eternal ,
Once they have paid for their sins , GOD will bring them to ashes upon the Ground , Then the righteous will tread down the wicked , for they will be ashes under the soles of your feet . Just like MAL 4:3 tells us . It is the righteous that will dwell with the everlasting burnings , Not the wicked , Read ISAIAH 33:14 ,will tell you who will be with the everlasting burning ,
Can you please clarify...
Do you believe that the righteous will dwell in everlasting burning?
GOD is a consuming fire , and the righteous shall be with JESUS for ever & ever , So yes ,It tells you very plainly in ISAIAH 33: 14 -17
This will BE the reward of the righteous , THE wicked will perish like A dream , Like smoke ,And the BIBLE says it will be as thew they had never been , SO they will be GONE , They will be ashes like the BIBLE says ,They will perish like their own dung whether We believe it or not , GODs WORD says it THAT settle it for ME . GOD be with you as HE sees fit .
IN REV 15:2 And I saw as it were a sea of glass mingled with fire : the fire shinning in the water ,WHAT DO you think that is?
Myself , I believe it the fire of GOD shinning in the water .
Myself , I believe it the fire of GOD shinning in the water .
Have you heard white as snow????
It is not a snow but how white the snow is.
Here it said....as if...
Its not glass its not fire...
But i think as glass is purified by fire
What he see in the vision is so "clear"...
My 2 cents on isaiah 33:
1. God is a devouring fire.
2. People are like burning lime
3. God dwells on high
4. Sinners are afraid.
5. He who walk righteour will dwell on high.
Two different.
One burned , one who dwell with he who burned.
It is different from the one suffering eternal fire.
Isaiah ask who shall dwell with the everlasting burning , Then he tells That it is the Righteous , What is it that you can't see .
You couldn't be anymore plainer then that. But when you believe in a eternal hell , like I did also at one time , But I praise GOD Because HE has open my eyes on that , And now I can see GODs true LOVE for the Sinners , And for HIS saints also, IT GETS in the way of a lot The truths of GOD , And keeps us from seeing a hole lot of GODs plain truths . GOD bless as HE sees fit .
You couldn't be anymore plainer then that. But when you believe in a eternal hell , like I did also at one time , But I praise GOD Because HE has open my eyes on that , And now I can see GODs true LOVE for the Sinners , And for HIS saints also, IT GETS in the way of a lot The truths of GOD , And keeps us from seeing a hole lot of GODs plain truths . GOD bless as HE sees fit .