Not By Works

[Judges1318]

Hebrews is a letter. just isolating a few words out of it, or any letter, is invalid. read and apply all of it.

now, a real life question-

I have a pecan tree. 3 years ago, it yielded a huge crop of pecans.
since then, it has produced mostly bad fruits. ( nuts in this case, but the same principal).

now, is the pecan tree in danger of ceasing of being a pecan tree, due to a few seasons of little work??

It is in danger of being cut down and thrown into the fire.

 

[Judges1318]

Hebrews is a letter. just isolating a few words out of it, or any letter, is invalid. read and apply all of it.

Show me how the passage I quoted doesn't really mean what it says.

 

[Judges1318]

🤦‍♂️

Before you make demands.

Why do you believe I didn't "comprehend" what you posted.

Because you didn't address what I was talking about.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Yeah she started a thread claiming Jesus never used the word grace and the Paul was all wrong.....Oncefallen shut her down.

Wow missed that one

 

[Lightskin]

The person who does not have a changed/ changing life has not been justified in Christ. He has not been circumcised by the Holy Spirit. He has not entered into Sabbath Rest in Christ.

You mean like PS.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

🤦‍♂️

Before you make demands.

Why do you believe I didn't "comprehend" what you posted.

They all think this
it’s the view f I comprehend what they say I would agree with them

 

[EleventhHour]

No I understood you right away.😅

I was happy you agreed with my point but then made a distiction on purpose. I don't cosign about anything to do with calvinism be it good or bad because of my lack of information.


(i know you werent using a trigger word, lol I hope you don't think I was accusing you of anything, not even being incorrect about what you claimed about calvinists or calvinism)

I get it now....understand

 

[OneOfHis]

Because you didn't address what I was talking about.

Wrong.

I specifically addressed your false point.

"Jesus will use our works as the evidence for or against us in regard to whether or not we will enter into the kingdom"


This is false and I addressed it. You were wrong in your assumption I didn't comprehend you. I understood every word, then disagreed with your false narrative..... then explained why....

 

[eternally-gratefull]

My point is I have not heard of what you said in context from anyone who claimed that denomination, but I stay away from that kinda talk and focus on individuals.


So often someone tries to pin something to me with some general statement or a denomination. I dislike that they use trigger words and don't engage in a true one on one while assuming I hold beliefs before it is brought up in discussion.


I don't know enough or care enough to look into a denomination itself. I've been down too many rabbit holes and would rather talk to the individual about what they believe a verse to mean and why....

(not assuming you're wrong or right, just not joining in on anything against a denomination I know very little about)

Lol I know catholics who say praying to marry is wrong and purgatory is a myth🤦‍♂️

but they still call themselves catholic...

In order to do this they would have to admit the ones who told them what we believe or what we are are wrong
if they are Wong about this. What else are they wrong about
that’s to much to do. So it’s easier to just put you in line with what they were taught

 

[OneOfHis]

In order to do this they would have to admit the ones who told them what we believe or what we are are wrong
if they are Wong about this. What else are they wrong about
that’s to much to do. So it’s easier to just put you in line with what they were taught

I believe our sister is just used to combating a specific form of false doctrine that reminded her of what was being discussed.(tad different than what we are talkin about) Lol I only spoke up to avoid agreeing with something I didn't understand.

 

[EleventhHour]

Wow missed that one

You did not miss much....she actually had the audacity to state .. ready >>>> that "Paul fabricated free ticket grace"

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I believe our sister is just used to combating a specific form of false doctrine that reminded her of what was being discussed.(tad different than what we are talkin about) Lol I only spoke up to avoid agreeing with something I didn't understand.

Edit. Oops I thought you were still talking to judges. Lol
I was speaking in general terms
like those attacking osas because it a Calvinist term hence we are all Calvinist who believe in osas

 

[Judges1318]

"Jesus will use our works as the evidence for or against us in regard to whether or not we will enter into the kingdom"


This is false and I addressed it.

So Matthew 25:31-46 doesn't really mean what it says?

 

[OneOfHis]

I was speaking in general terms
like those attacking osas because it a Calvinist term hence we are all Calvinist who believe in osas

Lol I have been called a calvinist, but never by a calvinist.🤣

I think if I had to point at a denomination that often rings true more than it doesnt.... it would be fundamental baptists... that being said.... there are fundamental baptists who disagree on the core gospel through misunderstandings or bias....

 

[OneOfHis]

So Matthew 25:31-46 doesn't really mean what it says?

You don't understand what's being said.😅

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Lol I have been called a calvinist, but never by a calvinist.🤣

I think if I had to point at a denomination that often rings true more than it doesnt.... it would be fundamental baptists... that being said.... there are fundamental baptists who disagree on the core gospel through misunderstandings or bias....

Yeah
weneed to leave what denomination we attend alone and just discuss views as you said
would be so much less misunderstanding

 

[Judges1318]

You mean like PS.

26Let us not become conceited, provoking and envying each other. - Galatians 5:26

It's a sin for people to be provoking him to do something out of line.
I know you will rationalize in your minds why it's okay to do that, but it's not okay.

This thread is dedicated to provoking Christians to do evil.
People lie in wait to attack anyone who dare suggest that a Christian can lose his salvation.
I wouldn't be here if it were not for the ignore button. It's the only thing that makes it tolerable to post here.

 

[OneOfHis]

So Matthew 25:31-46 doesn't really mean what it says?

31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:

32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:

33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.

34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:

35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:

36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.

37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?

38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?

39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?

40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.

41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:

43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.

44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?

45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.

46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
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How do you become a sheep?

How are you DEEMED righteous?


You falsely suggest these verses mean that Jesus will JUDGE US BY OUR WORKS TO SEE IF WE ARE SAVED.....


No.....


the goats and sheep are sorted already....


Goodness

 

[Judges1318]

You don't understand what's being said.😅

In other words, it doesn't really mean what it plainly says, right?

 

[Judges1318]

31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:

32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:

33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.

34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:

35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:

36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.

37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?

38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?

39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?

40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.

41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:

43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.

44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?

45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.

46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
_________


How do you become a sheep?

How are you DEEMED righteous?


You falsely suggest these verses mean that Jesus will JUDGE US BY OUR WORKS TO SEE IF WE ARE SAVED.....


No.....


the goats and sheep are sorted already....


Goodness

Sheep have works of righteousness.
Did that slip your notice?