Is man allowed by God to space travel?

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Mychael

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Is man allowed by God to space travel? I think most Christians would be surprised by what the Bible says about going into the Heavens.
Genesis 1:26-30
1:26 ¶And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
29 ¶And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.
Isaiah 14:12-15 How you have fallen from heaven, O morning star, son of the dawn! You have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nations! You said in your heart, “I will ascend to heaven; I will raise my throne above the stars of God; I will sit enthroned on the mount of assembly, on the utmost heights of the sacred mountain. I will ascend above the tops of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High.” But you are brought down to the grave, to the depths of the pit. NIV
Obadiah 1:3-4
3 The pride of thine heart hath deceived thee, thou that dwellest in the clefts of the rock, whose habitation is high; that saith in his heart, Who shall bring me down to the ground?
4 Though thou exalt thyself as the eagle, and though thou set thy nest among the stars, thence will I bring thee down, saith the LORD.

Many other scriptures point to the fact we can go there with flesh that is corruptible.
What do you think?
 

Mychael

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They won't let me correct the last line so here is the correct way I meant:
Many other scriptures point to the fact we can't go there with flesh that is corruptible.
What do you think?
 

oyster67

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I think so. We definitely couldn't have gotten to the moon if He didn't want to let us get there. I think the problem comes in when one gets an attitude of enthronement.

I will ascend to heaven; I will raise my throne above the stars of God; I will sit enthroned
 

NOV25

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I think so. We definitely couldn't have gotten to the moon if He didn't want to let us get there. I think the problem comes in when one gets an attitude of enthronement.

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I’m not convinced they went to the moon. 🤷‍♂️
 

Aerials1978

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I believe God is more concerned with what is happening with corruptible flesh on His Earth
 
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Is man allowed by God to space travel? I think most Christians would be surprised by what the Bible says about going into the Heavens.
Genesis 1:26-30
1:26 ¶And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
29 ¶And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.
Isaiah 14:12-15 How you have fallen from heaven, O morning star, son of the dawn! You have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nations! You said in your heart, “I will ascend to heaven; I will raise my throne above the stars of God; I will sit enthroned on the mount of assembly, on the utmost heights of the sacred mountain. I will ascend above the tops of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High.” But you are brought down to the grave, to the depths of the pit. NIV
Obadiah 1:3-4
3 The pride of thine heart hath deceived thee, thou that dwellest in the clefts of the rock, whose habitation is high; that saith in his heart, Who shall bring me down to the ground?
4 Though thou exalt thyself as the eagle, and though thou set thy nest among the stars, thence will I bring thee down, saith the LORD.

Many other scriptures point to the fact we can go there with flesh that is corruptible.
What do you think?
"Space travel" would have to be defined .Literal as we are traveling or something the eyes cannot see ?

I would think we are there. Its called under the Sun. The temporal time period. It began on day 4. When God found pride in the heart of the father of lies. As Satan, the light bearer. He lost that place of habitation to represent the law of truth, a morning star. . Unlike the Spirit of Christ the bright and morning star. Or the source and the witness . Like the sun and the moon.

I, Jesus, have sent my angel to tell you these things for the churches. I am the descendant from the family of David. I am the "bright" morning star.”Revelation 22:16

This is unlike Satan the destroyed morning star. Christ is both the source of light (bright) and the reflection of it . God is Light. In him there is no night or darkness.

I did not see a temple in the city. The Lord God All-Powerful and the Lamb were the city’s temple. The city did not need the sun or the moon to shine on it. The glory of God gave the city light. The Lamb was the city’s lamp. The peoples of the world will walk by the light given by the Lamb. The rulers of the earth will bring their glory into the city. The city’s gates will never close on any day, because there is no night there.Revelation 21:22-24
 

WithinReason

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Is man allowed by God to space travel? I think most Christians would be surprised by what the Bible says about going into the Heavens.
Genesis 1:26-30
1:26 ¶And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
29 ¶And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.
Isaiah 14:12-15 How you have fallen from heaven, O morning star, son of the dawn! You have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nations! You said in your heart, “I will ascend to heaven; I will raise my throne above the stars of God; I will sit enthroned on the mount of assembly, on the utmost heights of the sacred mountain. I will ascend above the tops of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High.” But you are brought down to the grave, to the depths of the pit. NIV
Obadiah 1:3-4
3 The pride of thine heart hath deceived thee, thou that dwellest in the clefts of the rock, whose habitation is high; that saith in his heart, Who shall bring me down to the ground?
4 Though thou exalt thyself as the eagle, and though thou set thy nest among the stars, thence will I bring thee down, saith the LORD.

Many other scriptures point to the fact we can go there with flesh that is corruptible.
What do you think?
Do you want what I know from scripture, rather than what I think? If so, I will tell you.

Mankind, as corrupted and fallen, cannot go there now (meaning yet, until something transforms us). Adam used to be the representative before, and could represent this world among the other worlds. In sin, satan took that place, and seen as the "god of this world" in Job 1 & 2; 1 Kings 22:22-23; 2 Chronicles 18:21-22, etc. Now, Jesus has taken that place, and is now glorified, and thus able to ascend to "there" (3rd Heaven). We would perish in the presence of God, and perish in the radiation of 'space' (especially the Van Allen belts, and especially after Starfish Prime, etc, etc).

It (3rd Heaven) is not in "another dimension" as some have incorrectly thought/stated [even without evidence or a single scripture], but Jesus Christ, from this very earth, ascended back, in a glorified body, to where He had been sent from. The third Heaven is a real physical place, and if we had such ability, we could travel to it, but God will never allow sin to leave this planet [it is the quarantine zone, the sickbed of the universal Hospital [angels, as nurses, Christ Jesus the Great Physician, a leper colony on an island in space, struck off [temporarily] from the continent of heaven, etc], and even now [since the Cross] satan is trapped here (cast down, to the earth), unable to leave [1 Timothy 6:7; Revelation 12:8-13; Romans 5:6 [combined with Revelation 12:10]; 2 Corinthians 4:4 [this world only and no other worldly body in the heavens] KJB]. Do not let N.A.S.A lie to you. Mankind [as in men themselves] never set foot upon the moon [and there is no rover on mars], the Bible says so. Though satan would love for mankind to be able to leave, and is working as hard as he can so that it could happen, so that he would conduct his warfare again in Heaven, by spreading fallen mankind and sin all over the sinless universe, and the unfallen worlds, he is limited. He presents a false front, he is attempting a counterfeit ladder to Heaven [a siege-tower of Babel, climbing up some other way, than the Way] through the so-called space program.
Amo_9:2 Though they dig into hell, thence shall mine hand take them; though they climb up to heaven, thence will I bring them down:​

In short:

No. See 1 Timothy 6:7, which seems to draw upon Job 1:21 & Ecclesiastes 5:15.

Most of what you ‘see’ and ‘hear’ related to ‘space exploration’ is propagandistic, self-serving, and ultimately fraud (though certain truths are utilized), especially that ‘Apollo’ and ‘mars’ business. Humans and satan (see 2 Corinthians 4:4; Revelation 12:8-13) are confined to this local earth, though having access to high altitudes. Though satan would love to spread sin all over the unfallen universe.

N.A.S.A. - Not Always Scientifically Accurate
N.A.S.A. - Never A Straight Answer
N.A.S.A. - Numerous Anomalies Scams Abound
N.A.S.A. - National Academy of Space Actors
N.A.S.A. - Not Anything, Simply Aether,
N.A.S.A. - Neither Aerospace, Sadly, Astro-NOTS!
N.A.S.A. - Never Accept the Serpents Assertions.

The ‘space program’ is actually another system based upon the ‘tower of babel’ reasoning/thought, being another way up into Heaven other than The Way (John 14:6), another ladder other than the Jacob’s Ladder - Jesus Christ. The only way into Heaven now is by vision, or by John 14:1-3.

Some names I may recommend to you (most of which is freely available online to read or watch, consider scientifically). Bill Kaysing. James Collier (Was it only a paper moon); Bart Sibrel (Astronauts Gone Wild); Ralph Rene (Nasa Mooned America), Marcus Allen, and David Percy (What happened on the Moon, Analysis; Hall of Mirrors), Mary Bennett, Jim (James) Fetzer and/or Jarrah White (Moon Faker, Mars Faker (youtube); atheist), Richard Hall, and in this present list, last but not least, N.A.S.A. itself, and its own material, still available and that which has since been removed, deleted, redacted, etc.

Please be aware that this is in no way connected to the false theology of 'flat earth' (which is non-sequitur to the present discussion, and of which I do not believe (earth is basically sphere from all evidences, Bible, history, science, and the testimony of Jesus)).
 

Mychael

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Do you want what I know from scripture, rather than what I think? If so, I will tell you.

Mankind, as corrupted and fallen, cannot go there now (meaning yet, until something transforms us). Adam used to be the representative before, and could represent this world among the other worlds. In sin, satan took that place, and seen as the "god of this world" in Job 1 & 2; 1 Kings 22:22-23; 2 Chronicles 18:21-22, etc. Now, Jesus has taken that place, and is now glorified, and thus able to ascend to "there" (3rd Heaven). We would perish in the presence of God, and perish in the radiation of 'space' (especially the Van Allen belts, and especially after Starfish Prime, etc, etc).

It (3rd Heaven) is not in "another dimension" as some have incorrectly thought/stated [even without evidence or a single scripture], but Jesus Christ, from this very earth, ascended back, in a glorified body, to where He had been sent from. The third Heaven is a real physical place, and if we had such ability, we could travel to it, but God will never allow sin to leave this planet [it is the quarantine zone, the sickbed of the universal Hospital [angels, as nurses, Christ Jesus the Great Physician, a leper colony on an island in space, struck off [temporarily] from the continent of heaven, etc], and even now [since the Cross] satan is trapped here (cast down, to the earth), unable to leave [1 Timothy 6:7; Revelation 12:8-13; Romans 5:6 [combined with Revelation 12:10]; 2 Corinthians 4:4 [this world only and no other worldly body in the heavens] KJB]. Do not let N.A.S.A lie to you. Mankind [as in men themselves] never set foot upon the moon [and there is no rover on mars], the Bible says so. Though satan would love for mankind to be able to leave, and is working as hard as he can so that it could happen, so that he would conduct his warfare again in Heaven, by spreading fallen mankind and sin all over the sinless universe, and the unfallen worlds, he is limited. He presents a false front, he is attempting a counterfeit ladder to Heaven [a siege-tower of Babel, climbing up some other way, than the Way] through the so-called space program.
Amo_9:2 Though they dig into hell, thence shall mine hand take them; though they climb up to heaven, thence will I bring them down:​

In short:

No. See 1 Timothy 6:7, which seems to draw upon Job 1:21 & Ecclesiastes 5:15.

Most of what you ‘see’ and ‘hear’ related to ‘space exploration’ is propagandistic, self-serving, and ultimately fraud (though certain truths are utilized), especially that ‘Apollo’ and ‘mars’ business. Humans and satan (see 2 Corinthians 4:4; Revelation 12:8-13) are confined to this local earth, though having access to high altitudes. Though satan would love to spread sin all over the unfallen universe.

N.A.S.A. - Not Always Scientifically Accurate
N.A.S.A. - Never A Straight Answer
N.A.S.A. - Numerous Anomalies Scams Abound
N.A.S.A. - National Academy of Space Actors
N.A.S.A. - Not Anything, Simply Aether,
N.A.S.A. - Neither Aerospace, Sadly, Astro-NOTS!
N.A.S.A. - Never Accept the Serpents Assertions.

The ‘space program’ is actually another system based upon the ‘tower of babel’ reasoning/thought, being another way up into Heaven other than The Way (John 14:6), another ladder other than the Jacob’s Ladder - Jesus Christ. The only way into Heaven now is by vision, or by John 14:1-3.

Some names I may recommend to you (most of which is freely available online to read or watch, consider scientifically). Bill Kaysing. James Collier (Was it only a paper moon); Bart Sibrel (Astronauts Gone Wild); Ralph Rene (Nasa Mooned America), Marcus Allen, and David Percy (What happened on the Moon, Analysis; Hall of Mirrors), Mary Bennett, Jim (James) Fetzer and/or Jarrah White (Moon Faker, Mars Faker (youtube); atheist), Richard Hall, and in this present list, last but not least, N.A.S.A. itself, and its own material, still available and that which has since been removed, deleted, redacted, etc.

Please be aware that this is in no way connected to the false theology of 'flat earth' (which is non-sequitur to the present discussion, and of which I do not believe (earth is basically sphere from all evidences, Bible, history, science, and the testimony of Jesus)).
God has Blessed you with His Light ......shine for others. And thank you we all need to do are part. The Message is clearer when everyone with a part, does their part. Amen
 
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Is man allowed by God to space travel? I think most Christians would be surprised by what the Bible says about going into the Heavens.
Genesis 1:26-30
1:26 ¶And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
29 ¶And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.
Isaiah 14:12-15 How you have fallen from heaven, O morning star, son of the dawn! You have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nations! You said in your heart, “I will ascend to heaven; I will raise my throne above the stars of God; I will sit enthroned on the mount of assembly, on the utmost heights of the sacred mountain. I will ascend above the tops of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High.” But you are brought down to the grave, to the depths of the pit. NIV
Obadiah 1:3-4
3 The pride of thine heart hath deceived thee, thou that dwellest in the clefts of the rock, whose habitation is high; that saith in his heart, Who shall bring me down to the ground?
4 Though thou exalt thyself as the eagle, and though thou set thy nest among the stars, thence will I bring thee down, saith the LORD.

Many other scriptures point to the fact we can go there with flesh that is corruptible.
What do you think?
Traveling in to space would be the same as flying in a plane to transport people to different places as travel the same as automobiles and boats in that aspect.

And I do not think they are travelling space to try to find God, or heaven, but to explore.

But it is wrong to space travel for the fact it is not used for transportation, and much money spent on doing it that is better off going to the poor and needy and people's welfare, and they are only doing it to understand space as far as they can travel, and doing it out of arrogance for they want to say look what we accomplished, and they are not going to find anything out there that will be of help or value for the human race.

So in that aspect I would say it is wrong and you see the people that are in charge of space exploration, and NASA and science do not seem to care about God, or believe, but support evolution, but want to convince mankind that they are great and can achieve great things with technology causing their head to swell with pride and arrogance and many people influenced by that which only leads to the world to rebel against God and saying it is all about people.

Which God said in the future they will say I am, and there is no one else beside me, and the man of sin will acknowledge no personal God and the wicked will do the same and they will rebel against God.

Space exploration is pointless, and what are they going to do find vast amounts of food to transport back to earth, or find cures for diseases lurking about out there, or find materials to build houses for the homeless that a thousand big bad wolves cannot blow down which the rich and their greediness with cry we want one too of them there houses of that there space material that you found so forget the poor and needy as it becomes a big money making business because the greedy and rich cannot keep their hands off anything if it means making them money and step all over the poor and needy.

Because everything man does is for his selfishness, arrogance, and self exaltation, and with technology all they care about is making money from it, developing better, greater, faster, more powerful weapons with it, and thinking they are oh so special that they can do this and that and the other thing.

Alright that is enough rant from me but I cannot believe that out of thousands of years the world has not learned a thing, and even more selfish, arrogant, and self exalting than ever in the history of mankind that will cause the world to rebel against God which the Bible testifies of that, and they will never stop exalting themselves and trying to do it their own way until they are smacked in the face by God Himself to bring them to reality but then it will be too late.

Ecc 7:29 Lo, this only have I found, that God hath made man upright; but they have sought out many inventions.

People of the world will never learn and they think it will be like Star Trek one day with the zipping, and the zooming, and the zigging, and the zagging, and the warp speeding, and the force fielding, and exploring new worlds, and meeting aliens, and colonizing planets not inhabited no not a one.

Obadiah 1:3-4
3 The pride of thine heart hath deceived thee, thou that dwellest in the clefts of the rock, whose habitation is high; that saith in his heart, Who shall bring me down to the ground?
4 Though thou exalt thyself as the eagle, and though thou set thy nest among the stars, thence will I bring thee down, saith the LORD.

God does not mean space exploration and going up in the sky but if they could go up and they could reach the stars it would not be high enough that God cannot bring them down as a reference to their arrogance, and self exaltation.
 

Mychael

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Traveling in to space would be the same as flying in a plane to transport people to different places as travel the same as automobiles and boats in that aspect.

And I do not think they are travelling space to try to find God, or heaven, but to explore.

But it is wrong to space travel for the fact it is not used for transportation, and much money spent on doing it that is better off going to the poor and needy and people's welfare, and they are only doing it to understand space as far as they can travel, and doing it out of arrogance for they want to say look what we accomplished, and they are not going to find anything out there that will be of help or value for the human race.

So in that aspect I would say it is wrong and you see the people that are in charge of space exploration, and NASA and science do not seem to care about God, or believe, but support evolution, but want to convince mankind that they are great and can achieve great things with technology causing their head to swell with pride and arrogance and many people influenced by that which only leads to the world to rebel against God and saying it is all about people.

Which God said in the future they will say I am, and there is no one else beside me, and the man of sin will acknowledge no personal God and the wicked will do the same and they will rebel against God.

Space exploration is pointless, and what are they going to do find vast amounts of food to transport back to earth, or find cures for diseases lurking about out there, or find materials to build houses for the homeless that a thousand big bad wolves cannot blow down which the rich and their greediness with cry we want one too of them there houses of that there space material that you found so forget the poor and needy as it becomes a big money making business because the greedy and rich cannot keep their hands off anything if it means making them money and step all over the poor and needy.

Because everything man does is for his selfishness, arrogance, and self exaltation, and with technology all they care about is making money from it, developing better, greater, faster, more powerful weapons with it, and thinking they are oh so special that they can do this and that and the other thing.

Alright that is enough rant from me but I cannot believe that out of thousands of years the world has not learned a thing, and even more selfish, arrogant, and self exalting than ever in the history of mankind that will cause the world to rebel against God which the Bible testifies of that, and they will never stop exalting themselves and trying to do it their own way until they are smacked in the face by God Himself to bring them to reality but then it will be too late.

Ecc 7:29 Lo, this only have I found, that God hath made man upright; but they have sought out many inventions.

People of the world will never learn and they think it will be like Star Trek one day with the zipping, and the zooming, and the zigging, and the zagging, and the warp speeding, and the force fielding, and exploring new worlds, and meeting aliens, and colonizing planets not inhabited no not a one.

Obadiah 1:3-4
3 The pride of thine heart hath deceived thee, thou that dwellest in the clefts of the rock, whose habitation is high; that saith in his heart, Who shall bring me down to the ground?
4 Though thou exalt thyself as the eagle, and though thou set thy nest among the stars, thence will I bring thee down, saith the LORD.

God does not mean space exploration and going up in the sky but if they could go up and they could reach the stars it would not be high enough that God cannot bring them down as a reference to their arrogance, and self exaltation.
Read about the Tower of Babel again it also points to what I'm saying.
 

WithinReason

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People of the world will never learn and they think it will be like Star Trek
Ah, "Star Trek", that original with Captain James T. Kirk. Do you realize it is atheistic propaganda religion? Consider:

Captain - Leader over others

James - Name of the chair of the First Council of Jerusalem, Acts 15, and Jesus' brother by marriage (Joseph's son to a previous marriage).

T. which is short for "Tiberius", - the very name of the secular/pagan Roman Caesar that Jesus Christ died under.

Kirk - is Scottish, etc for "Church".

It is all a play on Christianity in negative, and that denies God, and in several movies mocks God. Even in Star Trek V, traveling to a world "Sha Ka Ree" (Heaven) with "God" on it.

Remember, that Leonard Nemoy was a kabblisitic Jew, and used to take photos of naked women at his house with his wife present, as 'art'. He helped created much of the 'religion'/'philosophy' of that atheistic show.

This might be fascinating to some:

 
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Who knows maybe

Isaiah 49:22
He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth; its dwellers are like grasshoppers.
He stretches out the heavens like a curtain, and spreads them out like a tent to dwell in.
 

JaumeJ

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The farther man advances, the farther the limits will be. Always out of reach.
 
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The farther man advances, the farther the limits will be. Always out of reach.
Man is prone to one step forward two steps back, wars and more wars conflict never ends.
 
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Traveling in to space would be the same as flying in a plane to transport people to different places as travel the same as automobiles and boats in that aspect.

And I do not think they are travelling space to try to find God, or heaven, but to explore.

But it is wrong to space travel for the fact it is not used for transportation, and much money spent on doing it that is better off going to the poor and needy and people's welfare, and they are only doing it to understand space as far as they can travel, and doing it out of arrogance for they want to say look what we accomplished, and they are not going to find anything out there that will be of help or value for the human race.

So in that aspect I would say it is wrong and you see the people that are in charge of space exploration, and NASA and science do not seem to care about God, or believe, but support evolution, but want to convince mankind that they are great and can achieve great things with technology causing their head to swell with pride and arrogance and many people influenced by that which only leads to the world to rebel against God and saying it is all about people.

Which God said in the future they will say I am, and there is no one else beside me, and the man of sin will acknowledge no personal God and the wicked will do the same and they will rebel against God.

Space exploration is pointless, and what are they going to do find vast amounts of food to transport back to earth, or find cures for diseases lurking about out there, or find materials to build houses for the homeless that a thousand big bad wolves cannot blow down which the rich and their greediness with cry we want one too of them there houses of that there space material that you found so forget the poor and needy as it becomes a big money making business because the greedy and rich cannot keep their hands off anything if it means making them money and step all over the poor and needy.

Because everything man does is for his selfishness, arrogance, and self exaltation, and with technology all they care about is making money from it, developing better, greater, faster, more powerful weapons with it, and thinking they are oh so special that they can do this and that and the other thing.

Alright that is enough rant from me but I cannot believe that out of thousands of years the world has not learned a thing, and even more selfish, arrogant, and self exalting than ever in the history of mankind that will cause the world to rebel against God which the Bible testifies of that, and they will never stop exalting themselves and trying to do it their own way until they are smacked in the face by God Himself to bring them to reality but then it will be too late.

Ecc 7:29 Lo, this only have I found, that God hath made man upright; but they have sought out many inventions.

People of the world will never learn and they think it will be like Star Trek one day with the zipping, and the zooming, and the zigging, and the zagging, and the warp speeding, and the force fielding, and exploring new worlds, and meeting aliens, and colonizing planets not inhabited no not a one.

Obadiah 1:3-4
3 The pride of thine heart hath deceived thee, thou that dwellest in the clefts of the rock, whose habitation is high; that saith in his heart, Who shall bring me down to the ground?
4 Though thou exalt thyself as the eagle, and though thou set thy nest among the stars, thence will I bring thee down, saith the LORD.

God does not mean space exploration and going up in the sky but if they could go up and they could reach the stars it would not be high enough that God cannot bring them down as a reference to their arrogance, and self exaltation.
You do make some points about the money though there is many things money is spent on that is probably better spent else where. Churches have the same delima if all the church buildings and the weekly services congregations donations to keep the building going for folks to pile in closed and the billions across the world went to helping out the needy more better than sitting in a building listening to some dude preach that might be useful also. it is a billion dollar industry also from small ones to huge ones all added up is a vast amount.
 

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wasnt Neil armstrong a christian? Or John Glen who stayed in the spaceship?. I forget.
But yea it costs billions to send a couple of astronauts up there just to say they did it and got there first. ner ner ner Russia.


I am so over it. It was an inquiry topic for school one term and I had to process so many books on space exploration and it was all boasting about this and that from the US.

I think the only thing of value they got from it was a picture of earth from space. It is beautiful from space but even more so close up. The moon though, just seems so barren and lifeless.
 
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What I would like to see might be out there somewhere but a church with primi
Is man allowed by God to space travel? I think most Christians would be surprised by what the Bible says about going into the Heavens.
Genesis 1:26-30
1:26 ¶And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
29 ¶And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.
Isaiah 14:12-15 How you have fallen from heaven, O morning star, son of the dawn! You have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nations! You said in your heart, “I will ascend to heaven; I will raise my throne above the stars of God; I will sit enthroned on the mount of assembly, on the utmost heights of the sacred mountain. I will ascend above the tops of the clouds; I will make myself like the Most High.” But you are brought down to the grave, to the depths of the pit. NIV
Obadiah 1:3-4
3 The pride of thine heart hath deceived thee, thou that dwellest in the clefts of the rock, whose habitation is high; that saith in his heart, Who shall bring me down to the ground?
4 Though thou exalt thyself as the eagle, and though thou set thy nest among the stars, thence will I bring thee down, saith the LORD.

Many other scriptures point to the fact we can go there with flesh that is corruptible.
What do you think?
This is a odd suggestion using creation genesis 1:26-30 with Isaiah 14 12-15 to say that if man goes into space will fall like satan or become satan or what ever your are trying to do with scripture. I don’t know why you have mixed those two with that idea and say Christians be surprised at what scripture says no that isn’t right those scriptures isn’t saying man forbidden to explore earths back yard tiny tiny tiny little solar system smaller than dust on a grand scale.

I am surprised you used those verses for that idea. And I’m sure there are Christians in that industry what job do you have?
 

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Buzz Aldrin wanted everyone to be able to go to the moon, but I dont think thats gonna happen.
After Challenger, people arent quite so keen.

Certainly its never been a desire of mine.
Reading Neil armstrongs bio would put anyone to sleep. It was all about his missions here and there, but really, what kind of mission was it really? There are no aliens to convert or feed in space.
 
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Buzz Aldrin wanted everyone to be able to go to the moon, but I dont think thats gonna happen.
After Challenger, people arent quite so keen.

Certainly its never been a desire of mine.
Reading Neil armstrongs bio would put anyone to sleep. It was all about his missions here and there, but really, what kind of mission was it really? There are no aliens to convert or feed in space.
Who knows what they were doing, I’m not much into it other than the photos of space but I was surprised that 90% baby milk in America was improved by some kind of algae developed by nasa and better artificial lambs came about from robotic arms of a space lander and a cardiac implant ventricular assist device and quite a few other things. I’ve learned a lot of money goes into developing other things besides space stuff
 
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When I see the marvels of technology I see the glory of God who causes all that exists. I see the same in nature and everywhere I look.