Oneness or trinity, Is Jesus God or man?

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kaylagrl

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watcher2013 said:
He died.but there is someone..the only one who has immortality
1Ti 6:13-16 KJV 13 I give thee charge in the sight of God, who quickeneth all things, and before Christ Jesus, who before Pontius Pilate witnessed a good confession; 14 That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukeable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ: 15 Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords; 16 Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.
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watcher2013 said:
He died
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As the old song says, "You ask me how I know He lives, He LIVES within my heart. You can go and find the remains of Buddha, Krishna and Muhammad, but you will not find the remains of Jesus. He rose is and is sitting at the right hand of the Father.
 
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kaylagrl said:
As the old song says, "You ask me how I know He lives, He LIVES within my heart. You can go and find the remains of Buddha, Krishna and Muhammad, but you will not find the remains of Jesus. He rose is and is sitting at the right hand of the Father.
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I do not deny God raised him form the dead.....i am only stating the fact...
HE DIED...
 
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Locoponydirtman said:
Are you denying that Jesus is God?
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I am saying the Word was God and Yeshua is a man.

2 question.

A body without spirit is dead.
Jesus after resurrection he told mary do not touch me for i have not ascended yet to the Father.
1. Did jesus died because the god son left the body?
2. Jesus said Father recieve my spirit.
Why then he said he have not ascended yet to the father?
 
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I can't really see how you've answered my question, what did the Lord Jesus empty Himself of, the Greek for "made himself of no reputation" is "heautón ekénoosen" in Phil 2v7, which literally means "emptied Himself," I'm simply asking what is your understanding of what He emptied Himself of when He became flesh?

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His glory, as I said earlier. He made Himself of no reputation, setting aside the honor due Him, also as I previously put. The objections you will raise to this concerning the development of the body are answered by recognizing the essence of a man is not his physical brain.
 
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watcher2013 said:
I am saying the Word was God and Yeshua is a man.
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Christ is never not God. The Son of Man is also the Son of God. It is not denying His humanity to affirm His divinity. He isn't "simple" He is the most profound thing ever imaginable
 
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posthuman said:
Christ is never not God. The Son of Man is also the Son of God. It is not denying His humanity to affirm His divinity. He isn't "simple" He is the most profound thing ever imaginable
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So his divine self...left the human self to die..at the hour of death...

Selfish divine nature.
 
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watcher2013 said:
The immortal God cannot/never die.
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It's good that I now have a straight answer from you. I know we have nothing left to speak to each other about. You are anathema, to me, good bye, and may the Lord eventually cause you to repent.
 
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Locoponydirtman said:
It's good that I now have a straight answer from you. I know we have nothing left to speak to each other about. You are anathema, to me, good bye, and may the Lord eventually cause you to repent.
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Why you cannot accept that he's not immortal?
Unless you see this, you wouldnt see why the immortal has to become flesh...
Everyone wants to be immortal.. but the Word has to become mortal.just for us
 
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posthuman said:
Christ is never not God. The Son of Man is also the Son of God. It is not denying His humanity to affirm His divinity. He isn't "simple" He is the most profound thing ever imaginable
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Yes preach it brother.
 
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kaylagrl

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watcher2013 said:
So his divine self...left the human self to die..at the hour of death...

Selfish divine nature.
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What are you on about?! What cult are you a part of!! My land! Selfish!! He left heaven to die for YOU for YOUR sin. What an utterly insane thing to say. Selfish !!! How ridiculous.
 
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watcher2013 said:
are you saying your saviour did not die?
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My Savior?! My Savior LIVES. And you're in the wrong place. We don't agree or condone cults here. You need to go find your own and stick with them. We believe God's word here.
 
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kaylagrl said:
What are you on about?! What cult are you a part of!! My land! Selfish!! He left heaven to die for YOU for YOUR sin. What an utterly insane thing to say. Selfish !!! How ridiculous.
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He did not just left heaven...he left immortality.
 
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kaylagrl said:
My Savior?! My Savior LIVES. And you're in the wrong place. We don't agree or condone cults here. You need to go find your own and stick with them. We believe God's word here.
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You did not answer the question. Did your saviour die?
 
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