A message to True prophets of YHWH

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AnandaHya

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mmmm ok ok...
so i am to tell you of the dream I had last night. It makes no sense to me but anyways maybe one of you can figure it out.

I was driving and a lady asked for a ride home saying its just a few blocks. I said ok, we missed the turn for the street of her house but noticed a bunch of dead monkeys all along the road. then it got weird the car got stuck in a huge sink hole caused by the rain and we had to walk and we got lost and the road behind us trying to get back on the right path and the right turn to her house became a big slippery hill and we kept wandering lost and then the alligators came. which ever path we tried to get back to her house would have alligators on them moving in on us and we would have to go a different way. We finally escaped and ran toward the paved roads toward the light and I heard the alligators say "we can't give up we sacrificed all those dead monkeys so we could devour that soul"

So anyways. that was the dream that woke me up at 2 am this morning. Doesn't make sense to me and I feel like I'll regret sharing it but oh well if God wants you to hear it then you make of it what you will Any interpertors out there?
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Oh, yeah, there is going to be 1000 year reign, and it is going to be the best 1000 years ever! Why would anyone want to take that away is beyond me?

Because to believe in a literal 1000 years would make their whole belief system crash
 
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Rheod

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#63
Oh, yeah, there is going to be 1000 year reign, and it is going to be the best 1000 years ever! Why would anyone want to take that away is beyond me?
ur soo sarcastic lol

can we just end this debate cus its getting nasty now. and i also dont like the sound of where this convo is going
 
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Rheod

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#64
mmmm ok ok...
so i am to tell you of the dream I had last night. It makes no sense to me but anyways maybe one of you can figure it out.

I was driving and a lady asked for a ride home saying its just a few blocks. I said ok, we missed the turn for the street of her house but noticed a bunch of dead monkeys all along the road. then it got weird the car got stuck in a huge sink hole caused by the rain and we had to walk and we got lost and the road behind us trying to get back on the right path and the right turn to her house became a big slippery hill and we kept wandering lost and then the alligators came. which ever path we tried to get back to her house would have alligators on them moving in on us and we would have to go a different way. We finally escaped and ran toward the paved roads toward the light and I heard the alligators say "we can't give up we sacrificed all those dead monkeys so we could devour that soul"

So anyways. that was the dream that woke me up at 2 am this morning. Doesn't make sense to me and I feel like I'll regret sharing it but oh well if God wants you to hear it then you make of it what you will Any interpertors out there?
it sounds promising. i will pray on it
 
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eternally-gratefull

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how do u no they havent been fulfilled

look at things like what Christ said will happen at the end. He has to return or else no flesh would be saved. This was not even possible until the advent of nuclear technology. so those who say it happened are wrong. things like this.
 
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Jason83

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ur soo sarcastic lol

can we just end this debate cus its getting nasty now. and i also dont like the sound of where this convo is going
Rheod, I was being completely serious when I said the 1000 year reign is going to be the best ever. This is when we all get to live with Jesus as the ruler of the entire earth--I was being completely heart felt, no sarcasm intended.
 
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Rheod

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Rheod, I was being completely serious when I said the 1000 year reign is going to be the best ever. This is when we all get to live with Jesus as the ruler of the entire earth--I was being completely heart felt, no sarcasm intended.
ok now i am confused
and oh my gosh you didnt call me captain u learn quick
 
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Jason83

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look at things like what Christ said will happen at the end. He has to return or else no flesh would be saved. This was not even possible until the advent of nuclear technology. so those who say it happened are wrong. things like this.
Agreed, Johns vision in the books of revelations was nuclear technology related. A nuclear bomb is the only way for large scale death, with people being burn down to their skeleton like he saw.
 
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Rheod

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i think nuclear aswell in all honesty but in the same breathe God is God and he decides how he wants things to happen
 
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Rheod

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it could be yellow stone
 
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Jason83

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Well, thankfully, Jesus is going to come before to prevent mankind from killing itself.
 
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Rheod

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Jason your useless at replying to mail.
 
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paulnsilas

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so God now must work through denominations and churches to be accepted? hmmm didn't read that in the Bible can you show me?
Thank You.
As a member of God's Household, you will only speak the truth to the family.
Which Church ordained/affirmed you as a prophet (and affirmed your other gifts)?
this is important, and you should not have a problem naming your church affiliations.

Likewise, if god ordained you a prophet outside a Church, could you please describe that experience?

Uou know this is required.

I don't mind being tested but the only prophecy was the one I posted in this Thread. Its in BIG BLUE LETTERS.
this is the only words given so far for the world.

HE says "Feel my wrath, so that you might believe that prophets walk amongst you and warned you yet you did not repent. You have stolen the widows inheritance. You have added to the burdens of the oppressed. you have judged falsely. you have ignored the cries of the weak and weary. So I turn my face from you. See for a time a world without the grace of God."

did God place these words on your lips?
when did He tell you this?

i notice the emphasis on 'prophets walking amongst us" - this is common among "prophets" today.

Jesus Christ is the one Who walked among us, and if the world will not hear Him, they will not hear 'prophets".

you say God says this to "the world" - could you be more specific please? did God mean the entire world including the Church?

and, again this is not credible, since the world will NEVER be without the Grace of God.
the world and all creation is upheld by the Word of His Power and exists and lives and moves today only because of His Grace.

did God perhaps intend you use a word other than GRACE?

that is all judge it if you like its not much and I'm not the only one who received it. Like I said I'm not that important. It is the message and GOD that should be focused on and glorified. He sends His messages to all His True prophets. there is just so many false ones or corrupt ones people are skeptical.
His True prophets?
Again, I must ask the circumstances of your ordination.
Simply declaring yourself a prophet is not enough: who has affirmed this for you?
To which Church do you belong?

The message of God IS what is important. We have the Word for that. The same Word and same Holy Spirit we've had for 1900+ years.

test me if you like I will answer you with scripture, because that is what Jesus taught us to do when tested to answer with the words of GOD..
That's fine.
A prophet would be given answers directly from God.
But Scripture is fine.
I will pay attention and see that they are used exactly according to Christ's Character and according to the original context.

Quoting Scripture is what we are all to be able to do, as it is the language of The Lord's Household - claiming to be a divinely chosen prophet however is another matter altogether. This requires testing and conclusions.

Please do not compare in your heart me to others who claim to be prophets but judge ME according to MY WORDS not THEIRS. that is all I ask is that you judge fairly and with the guidance of the Holy Spirit.

Dear Lord guide and protect us. In Jesus name we pray, amen.
Yes, Lord guide and protect us, Amen.

Hear if you have ears to Hear, Understand if you have hearts of babes, I will try and interpret through the grace of the Holy Spirit:

Isaiah 29:9-16 (New King James Version)

The Blindness of Disobedience (to all sinners)

in fact this is written to the Jewish nation specifically in Isaiah's day.
are you suggesting God told you to declare this upon the whole world today?

9 Pause and wonder!
Blind yourselves and be blind!
They are drunk, but not with wine;
They stagger, but not with intoxicating drink
. (those who eat and drink of the false doctrines of false prophets, demons)
again, to the jewish nation long ago.
are you applying this today?
and upon whom are you proclaming this Judgment? - Christ's Church?

10 For the LORD has poured out on you
The spirit of deep sleep,
And has closed your eyes, namely, the prophets;
And He has covered your heads, namely, the seers. (why people do not believe in modern day prophecy)
so, this passage was given to you by God, to declae against Christians who do not heed modern day prophets?

Or did He tell you to declare it against Christians who do not heed his Son and His Word. Some clarity is needed here.

11 The whole vision has become to you like the words of a book that is sealed, which men deliver to one who is literate, saying, “Read this, please.”
And he says, “I cannot, for it is sealed.” (false prophet, corrupted)
12 Then the book is delivered to one who is illiterate, saying, “Read this, please.”
And he says, “I am not literate.” (true believer, doesn't believe in the gift of prophecy or has not prayed for the discernment to read)
This kind of appropriation of specific prophecies that found their fulfillment in the day of prophets ordained specifically for National Israel is very common today in Charismatic circles.

I find it spiritually dishonest and a form of intimidation so that Christians will listen to people claiming to be prophets.

Again, the use of this ancient prophecy as something The Lord is supposedly saying to Christ's Church is not credible.

Any warnings the church is to heed are always found in the New Testament. There's nothing new under the sun, the heresies are the same and the problems are the same.

13 Therefore the Lord said:
“ Inasmuch as these people draw near with their mouths
And honor Me with their lips,
But have removed their hearts far from Me,
And their fear toward Me is taught by the commandment of men, (Hypocrites, biblical scholars and scribe who wish to show their "understanding" and speak on through or with the promoting of the Holy Spirit but on their own false merit, thus causing the body of Christ to be further divided and blind)
Again, another ancient prophecy which found its fulfillment in Christ's Day as He spoke it against the religious Leaders of National Israel, the Judaic Pharisees, as well as the people for following them.

Are you saying God told you to deliver this ancient prophecy yet again, but this time to the Christian Church, verbatim?

14 Therefore, behold, I will again do a marvelous work
Among this people,
A marvelous work and a wonder;
For the wisdom of their wise men shall perish,
And the understanding of their prudent men shall be hidden.” Watch and see what God has in store.
15 Woe to those who seek deep to hide their counsel far from the LORD,
And their works are in the dark;
They say, “Who sees us?” and, “Who knows us?” For the atheist and deceivers out there, it horrible to lie especially to yourself
16 Surely you have things turned around!
Shall the potter be esteemed as the clay;
For shall the thing made say of him who made it,

“ He did not make me”?
Or shall the thing formed say of him who formed it,

“ He has no understanding”?


Any question?

You should pray to God for the answers.
I'm not sure what you are trying to tell the church or the world - did God tell you to utter these things?

Thank You.
 
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Hi Amanda,

I loved and agree with everything you said until the thing about the third seal.

The third seal talks about a horsman who makes war with the whole world. Unless this was Hitler, who was defeated. This has not happened yet. The third seal also talks of a great famine

Think about what is said.

At this time period, A drought is so severe with one days wage a person could buy a quart of wheat (a meal would last one day) or 3 quarts Barley (enough for three meals) but there would not be anything left to buy oil or whine, so make sure you have enough.

After a great war in a war savages country. Famine is often severe. Many people are out of work, because their workplaces were destroyed by war.

I make enough today I could buy almost enough food whine and oil for a month. John is being told when the 3rd seal is opened, The resulting drought will cause me to chose how to feed my family. For if I just buy wheat, I only have enough money to feed my family for a week, with no left over.

correction E,G. the red horse is taking peace from the earh; this means war,
this is the 1st and the 2nd world war; how? it mentioned a great sword ,one can kill many, with a great sword, this means modern warfare; guns,cannons ,bombs,can kill many. these are the signs we have to watch for when interpreting prophesies.

''wakeup''.
 
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paulnsilas

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#75
mmmm ok ok...
so i am to tell you of the dream I had last night. It makes no sense to me but anyways maybe one of you can figure it out.

I was driving and a lady asked for a ride home saying its just a few blocks. I said ok, we missed the turn for the street of her house but noticed a bunch of dead monkeys all along the road. then it got weird the car got stuck in a huge sink hole caused by the rain and we had to walk and we got lost and the road behind us trying to get back on the right path and the right turn to her house became a big slippery hill and we kept wandering lost and then the alligators came. which ever path we tried to get back to her house would have alligators on them moving in on us and we would have to go a different way. We finally escaped and ran toward the paved roads toward the light and I heard the alligators say "we can't give up we sacrificed all those dead monkeys so we could devour that soul"

So anyways. that was the dream that woke me up at 2 am this morning. Doesn't make sense to me and I feel like I'll regret sharing it but oh well if God wants you to hear it then you make of it what you will Any interpertors out there?
Hello again.
So, you have a dream (is this a spiritual gift, is it part of the prophetic gift?) - and you are looking for an interpreter.

This is unbiblical, but very popular today.
 
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AnandaHya

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We hear this all the time from todays 'prophets" - 'persecution' means affirmation.

What you should understand, however, and appear not to, is that Christians are a royal priesthood, a universal (within true Christendom) priesthood with One High Priest.

Jesus is also a Prophet, and the gift of the Holy Spirit is all that is needed for each believer within the Household of God.



And herein I find the lack of credibility: the above passage is spoken by Jesus to the Judaic Pharisees 2,000 years ago.

attempting to quote this Scripture to Christians, as though God had given it to you to utter against Christ's Church is not believable.

But these sorts of utterings against the Church by "prophets" today is a mark upon them, making them easier to spot.



Am i to understand that God has given you these verses to speak against me for doubting you are a prophet, or given for you to speak to affirm yourself as a prophet?

Please clarify this, since if God has given you these words directly for this occassion, you must say so, likewise if He did not you must say so.

Anything short of that is spiritual manipulation by someone attampting to intimidate, and I am not easily so led.

I need to test your prophecies and teachings, Thank You (you know this is required).



Well, I'm afraid it's not that simple.
You have taken upon yourself mantle of prophet, and claim many other gifts.
I am to discern, but your cooperation as a true prophet or apostle (as Paul commended the Bereans) is required.

Thank You.

I don't have time to address all of it but these are the verses that jumped out at me this morning before you even started posting so I will share them with you and then i have to take care of a couple toddler crisis, my daughter's nose i bleeding which hasn't happened before, she's only three....


Isaiah 32: 9-11
Isaiah 32:9-11 (New King James Version)

Consequences of Complacency

9 Rise up, you women who are at ease,
Hear my voice;
You complacent daughters,
Give ear to my speech.
10 In a year and some days
You will be troubled, you complacent women;
For the vintage will fail,
The gathering will not come.
11 Tremble, you women who are at ease;
Be troubled, you complacent ones;
Strip yourselves, make yourselves bare,
And gird sackcloth on your wais
ts.

the other verses for the people also called to prophecy so that they might have the arrows needed to defeat the enemy that will attack them. Peace of the Lord be with the children of God.
 
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Rheod

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ok stop i dont like the way this is going.
 
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oncemore

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NOW THIS IS WHAT I DO NOT UNDERSTAND!

AT THE BEING OF THIS THREAD YOU WAS SPEAKING FOR GOD WITH HIS UNDERSTANDING NOW YOUR OWN DREAM YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND MY WHATS GOING ON YOU CAN NOT BE LOSE CAN YOU OR WALKING UP A SLIPPERY HILL GETTING NO WEAR. BUT KNOW OF THE LIGHT HOUSE BUT JUST NOT HOW TO GET BACK TO THE PATH. NO THATS JUST ME SAYING THAT WHAT DO I KNOW ABOUT THE THINKS OF GOD. AND THE WAY HE MOVES. NO I JUST DO NOT KNOW WHAT THAT COULD MEAN. MAY THE LORD HELP YOU BACK TO THAT PATH . IS MY PRAYER.
 
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paulnsilas

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I don't have time to address all of it but these are the verses that jumped out at me this morning
Verses that "jumped out at you"?
This is not the gift of prophecy, neither, frankly is it the gift of teaching.

One doesn't simply scan the bible (particularly the Old Testament which is extremely popular in today's "prophecy movement") and look for verses to "jump out"

The entire prophecy from the passage you have posted relates specifically to ancient Israel during the reign of Hezekiah.

They are not for today, neither are they directed at Christ's church.

Isaiah 32: 9-11
Isaiah 32:9-11 (New King James Version)

Consequences of Complacency

9 Rise up, you women who are at ease,
Hear my voice;
You complacent daughters,
Give ear to my speech.
10 In a year and some days
You will be troubled, you complacent women;
For the vintage will fail,
The gathering will not come.
11 Tremble, you women who are at ease;
Be troubled, you complacent ones;
Strip yourselves, make yourselves bare,
And gird sackcloth on your wais
ts.

the other verses for the people also called to prophecy so that they might have the arrows needed to defeat the enemy that will attack them. Peace of the Lord be with the children of God.
The other verses are for modern day prophets?
Are they verses you selected yourself to edify believers, or are you saying God told you to speak those words to modern prophets?

These passages are for ancient Jerusalem.
One ought to be extremely careful in claiming to be a prophet ordained by (?) God.
Please say which Church or people affirmed your gifts and ordained you to go forth as a prophet to the world/and or the Church.
Thank You.
 
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superdave5221

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Paulnsilas your points are excellent.

I have only one question for Ananda. What did God send you to say to us? What is your message? Is it that you are a prophet? We don't need to know that. What is your message? I will then judge the message.

By the way, do not deny the power of the Holy Spirit to speak directly to ALL Christians. Please explain why Christians, who have God's Holy Word to guide them, and the Holy Spirit endwelling them, need to hear YOUR word.

John 14: 26 "But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you.