THIRD TEMPLE NEWS

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.

VCO

Senior Member
Oct 14, 2013
11,995
4,615
113
This began with the first advent. And continues. But thinking the kingdom is physical you miss it. Also, the Pharisees had the same veil over their eyes.

RE-READ Zech. Chap 14 once again, THAT IS THE 1000 Year Kingdom of JESUS CHRIST, with HIM SITTING ON THE THRONE of DAVID, IN THE EARTHLY JERUSALEM, IN THE EARTHLY TEMPLE.

Matthew 5:17-20 (HCSB)
17 “Don’t assume that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill.

18 For I assure you: Until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or one stroke of a letter will pass from the law until all things are accomplished.
19 Therefore, whoever breaks one of the least of these commands and teaches people to do so will be called least in the kingdom of heaven. But whoever practices and teaches ⌊these commands⌋ will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
20 For I tell you, unless your righteousness surpasses that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.
 
Mar 5, 2020
485
133
43
Nothing you said here concerning the why and what will happen is confirmed, it’s just conjecture
the temple could be built and it could be years before anything happens.

all we know is the temple will be visited by a future prince halfway through a seven year covenant that he made with the nations, he will enter the holy of holys and place an abomination which causes desolation which will cease all sacrifice and burnt offering,
Is yours conjecture? Or do you have support from the bible for it?
All I'm going by is what I remember when I use to go to church and read the bible.
I looked it up to see how many information sources I could find. Here's one.
https://www.discoverrevelation.com/5.html
 
E

eternally-gratefull

Guest
Is yours conjecture? Or do you have support from the bible for it?
All I'm going by is what I remember when I use to go to church and read the bible.
I looked it up to see how many information sources I could find. Here's one.
https://www.discoverrevelation.com/5.html
Support?

yeah

its called the word of God

don’t give me some web site, prove to me from the word the future prophecies of king messiah, and the abomination of desolation daniel spoke of. Jesus spoke of, the event which Jesus said would point to a great tribulation which will be so severe, if he did not return to to an end to it no living flesh would survive.

can you do that?
 
Jan 17, 2020
4,792
736
113
RE-READ Zech. Chap 14 once again, THAT IS THE 1000 Year Kingdom of JESUS CHRIST, with HIM SITTING ON THE THRONE of DAVID, IN THE EARTHLY JERUSALEM, IN THE EARTHLY TEMPLE.

Matthew 5:17-20 (HCSB)
17 “Don’t assume that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill.

18 For I assure you: Until heaven and earth pass away, not the smallest letter or one stroke of a letter will pass from the law until all things are accomplished.
19 Therefore, whoever breaks one of the least of these commands and teaches people to do so will be called least in the kingdom of heaven. But whoever practices and teaches ⌊these commands⌋ will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
20 For I tell you, unless your righteousness surpasses that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.
It is symbolic. You look for a kingdom of sight just as the Pharisees do. The kingdom is present and seen only by faith.
 
Mar 5, 2020
485
133
43
Support?

yeah

its called the word of God

don’t give me some web site, prove to me from the word the future prophecies of king messiah, and the abomination of desolation daniel spoke of. Jesus spoke of, the event which Jesus said would point to a great tribulation which will be so severe, if he did not return to to an end to it no living flesh would survive.

can you do that?
You're a funny guy. I rolled back five pages in this discussion to page 25 and didn't find a single thing posted by you that included scripture. You say don't give you a website, but you gave us a lot of talk in those five pages and two videos. No scripture.
 

VCO

Senior Member
Oct 14, 2013
11,995
4,615
113
It is symbolic. You look for a kingdom of sight just as the Pharisees do. The kingdom is present and seen only by faith.

That is your SECOND WARNING, Next time you want to use Divisive speech, I will put you on my permanent IGNORE LIST.

IT IS LITERAL, HE SAYS SO! One other thing, you may want to read this verse.

Matthew 16:23 (HCSB)
23 But He turned and told Peter, “Get behind Me, Satan! You are an offense to Me because you’re not thinking about God’s concerns, but man’s.”
 
E

eternally-gratefull

Guest
You're a funny guy. I rolled back five pages in this discussion to page 25 and didn't find a single thing posted by you that included scripture. You say don't give you a website, but you gave us a lot of talk in those five pages and two videos. No scripture.
I am a funny guy
evidently you could not find scriptural proof of what you were trying to show me or you would have posted it

Thanks
 

VCO

Senior Member
Oct 14, 2013
11,995
4,615
113
Yet another Video that proves the TEMPLE belongs in the Southern Part of the Ophel in the City of David:

 
Mar 5, 2020
485
133
43
I am a funny guy
evidently you could not find scriptural proof of what you were trying to show me or you would have posted it

Thanks
You're welcome....
I'll pull a "you". Yes! It's in the bible! You post five pages of nothing but personal smack and other peoples videos and then cut on me for posting a link full of scripture that proves more than you've said in this entire thread.

This is what you post after you deleted your first reply? Had to think of something you consider biting?
You're like that other guy here who thinks people should do your work for you.
Any questions? Yes, do you get paid to float your crap here? Or is it just a personal hobby to work Christians? Evolve! Fast!
 
E

eternally-gratefull

Guest
You're welcome....
I'll pull a "you". Yes! It's in the bible! You post five pages of nothing but personal smack and other peoples videos and then cut on me for posting a link full of scripture that proves more than you've said in this entire thread.

This is what you post after you deleted your first reply? Had to think of something you consider biting?
You're like that other guy here who thinks people should do your work for you.
Any questions? Yes, do you get paid to float your crap here? Or is it just a personal hobby to work Christians? Evolve! Fast!
Still no scripture to prove your point

of course it’s not there so I do not expect you to show any

thanks
 
Mar 28, 2016
15,954
1,528
113
Yet another Video that proves the TEMPLE belongs in the Southern Part of the Ophel in the City of David:


What the eyes see are temporal. The word temporal a pivotal word used once in the bible to help us with the spiritual understanding .

When the parable is rightly divided the Spirit reveals eternal .In that way he teaches us how to walk by faith.

Without parables the Holy Spirit spoke not hiding the mysteries from natural man giving the gospel understanding to the believer.

2 Corinthians 4:18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.
 

VCO

Senior Member
Oct 14, 2013
11,995
4,615
113
God who is not a man as us is not served by human hands in any way shape or form .Neither Jew nor Gentile

The Jews is used to represent unbelieving mankind . They gathered themselves together not wanting to serve a invisible king walking by faith. They had become jealous of the surrounding Pagan nations.

God gave them over temporally to do that which they should not of . . .until the time of reformation. Using that period of time as a parable.

Something many by pass as if the reformation never occurred and is not continuing to its work of resisting to provide another temple to satisfy the lust of the eyes and false pride.

The Jew was used to represent unbelieving mankind. It was never about their flesh .The word Israel when defined makes that clear.

Its not that the before reformed order. . before the time of "reformation" was with the approval of God. And the new order. . no outward representation replaced that which was good. It removed the abomination of desolation . An image seen in the holy unseen place of Gods hidden glory .

Building another temple would be to reinstall another abomination of desolation.

Did you understand that Dave-L thinks the 1000 Year Kingdom, is nothing but Symbolic. Jesus Christ comes to earth to destroy HIS ENEMIES, and SET UP HIS KINGDOM ON EARTH as HE RULES for 1000 Years, on the THRONE OF DAVID. That is the LAST 1000 Years on this OLD EARTH, before the ETERNAL STATE COMES, with a New EARTH and Atmosphere. DID YOU MISREAD HIS STATEMENT ? ? ?
IT WILL BE A LITERAL KINGDOM HERE ON EARTH. IT IS NOT GOD'S ETERNAL KINGDOM. Let me quote Zech. 14 for you, and look at how may Prophecies HAVE NEVER TAKEN PLACE ON EARTH:


This is all about the SECOND COMING, after the RAPTURE.

Zechariah 14:1-21 (HCSB)
1 A day of the LORD is coming when your plunder will be divided in your presence.
2 I will gather all the nations against Jerusalem for battle. The city will be captured, the houses looted, and the women raped. Half the city will go into exile, but the rest of the people will not be removed from the city.
3 Then the LORD will go out to fight against those nations as He fights on a day of battle.
4 On that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, which faces Jerusalem on the east. The Mount of Olives will be split in half from east to west, forming a huge valley, so that half the mountain will move to the north and half to the south.
5 You {That is the 144,000, everyone else is in Israel has Gone into Exile, or has been KILLED.} will flee by My mountain valley, for the valley of the mountains will extend to Azal. You will flee as you fled from the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah. Then the LORD my God will come and all the holy ones with Him. {That is the Church, the New Testament Saints, the Saved of the Old Testement Saints, and the Holy Angels.}
6 On that day there will be no light; the sunlight and moonlight will diminish. {Prophesied in Isa. 13:10, Isa.60:19, Rev. 6:12, & Rev. 8:12.}
7 It will be a day known ⌊only⌋ to Yahweh, without day or night, but there will be light at evening.
8 On that day living water will flow out from Jerusalem, half of it toward the eastern sea and the other half toward the western sea, in summer and winter alike. {Another Prophesy that has never taking Place before, living water is a stream fed by a huge spring.}
9 On that day Yahweh will become King over all the EarthYahweh alone, and His name alone.
10 All the land from Geba to Rimmon south of Jerusalem will be changed into a plain. {WHY? Verse 16 will answer that. That is just north of Jersalem and down to just West of the Dead Sea.} But ⌊Jerusalem⌋ will be raised up and will remain on its site from the Benjamin Gate to the place of the First Gate, to the Corner Gate, and from the Tower of Hananel to the royal winepresses.
11 People will live there, and never again will there be a curse of complete destruction. So Jerusalem will dwell in security.
12 This will be the plague the LORD strikes all the peoples with, who have warred against Jerusalem: their flesh will rot while they stand on their feet, their eyes will rot in their sockets, and their tongues will rot in their mouths.
13 On that day a great panic from the LORD will be among them, so that each will seize the hand of another, and the hand of one will rise against the other.
14 Judah will also fight at Jerusalem, and the wealth of all the surrounding nations will be collected: gold, silver, and clothing in great abundance.
15 The same plague as the previous one will strike the horses, mules, camels, donkeys, and all the animals that are in those camps.
16 Then all the survivors from the nations that came against Jerusalem will go up year after year to worship the King, the LORD of Hosts, and to celebrate the Festival of Booths.
17 Should any of the families of the earth not go up to Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of Hosts, rain will not fall on them.
18 And if the people of Egypt will not go up and enter, then rain will not fall on them; this will be the plague the LORD inflicts on the nations who do not go up to celebrate the Festival of Booths.
19 This will be the punishment of Egypt and all the nations that do not go up to celebrate the Festival of Booths.
20 On that day, ⌊the words⌋ HOLY TO THE LORD will be on the bells of the horses. The pots in the house of the LORD will be like the sprinkling basins before the altar.
21 Every pot in Jerusalem and in Judah will be holy to the LORD of Hosts. Everyone who sacrifices will come and take some of the pots to cook in. And on that day there will no longer be a Canaanite in the house of the LORD of Hosts.

EVERY BIT OF THAT PROPHESY WILL HAPPEN LITERALLY.
 
E

eternally-gratefull

Guest
You're very welcome. Thank you for your example of why I have doubts about being a Christian.
Why because you can’t show me anything from scripture? That’s kind of an odd statement to make

this is not even a salvic debate, no one will go to heaven or hell because of what they believe on this subject.
 

Lucy-Pevensie

Senior Member
Dec 20, 2017
9,386
5,725
113
Why because you can’t show me anything from scripture? That’s kind of an odd statement to make

this is not even a salvic debate, no one will go to heaven or hell because of what they believe on this subject.
The account is a troll, just here to mock.
 

bojack

Well-known member
Dec 16, 2019
2,309
1,006
113
KING DAVID's Tomb the eusaphagus would have been aligned with the center of the TEMPLE. It was not aligned with the so-Called Temple Mount. It was aligned with the northern part of the City of David.

I learned something new, thanks, I knew about the City of David but I didn't know about the tomb alignment ..
 
E

eternally-gratefull

Guest
I learned something new, thanks, I knew about the City of David but I didn't know about the tomb alignment ..
The mount Zion thing blew me away. Would have never have thought this.