Satan and his demons ALL have fooled the world by their DECEPTOLOGY!!! I've herd stories of members still taken drugs and having sex with each other and much more......
AA (Alcoholics Anonymous) is Satanic!!
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have a search for a book called "pass it on" by co-founder bill Wilson, it has details of his acult worship from his past!!
Please seek professional help for your bizarre obsession to demons..
From my researches they're more new age type pagans than occult type pagans, but I suppose in the bigger picture it doesn't really matter since all pagans get tossed into the lake of fire despite their subtle differences.
People who attend Christian churches also do these things. By your "logic", Christian churches are satanic as well.
When someone says "I've heard stories"....
Being Afrikaans, I also have my spelling moments
PEOPLE DONT LISTEN TO ME LISTEN 2 GOD, THE HOLY SPIRIT AND SCRIPTURE!! PRAY, FAST AND SEEK GOD EVERY SECOND AND HE WILL GUIDE U 2 TRUTH!! PROV 3:5-6
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Susanna
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When someone says "I've heard stories"....
“I’ve heard stories” is a perfectly valid source among some of my kinfolks
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Yes, you said that already. Why then do you keep posting new threads when you've essentially told us not to bother with them?
Now Now. We all know YouTube theology and typing in all caps is basically evidence of God speaking to us.
HOW IT WORKS from AA's Big Book
Rarely have we seen a person fail who has thoroughly followed our path. Those who do not recover are people who cannot or will not completely give themselves to this simple program, usually men and women who are constitutionally incapable of being honest with themselves. There are such unfortunates. They are not at fault; they seem to have been born that way. They are naturally incapable of grasping and developing a manner of living which demands rigorous honesty. Their chances are less than average. There are those, too, who suffer from grave emotional and mental disorders, but many of them do recover if they have the capacity to be honest.
Our stories disclose in a general way what we used to be like, what happened, and what we are like now. If you have decided you want what we have and are willing to go to any length to get it — then you are ready to take certain steps.
At some of these we balked. We thought we could find an easier, softer way. But we could not. With all the earnestness at our command, we beg of you to be fearless and thorough from the very start. Some of us have tried to hold on to our old ideas and the result was nil until we let go absolutely.
Remember that we deal with alcohol — cunning, baffling, powerful! Without help it is too much for us. But there is One who has all power — that One is God. May you find Him now!
Half measures availed us nothing. We stood at the turning point. We asked His protection and care with complete abandon.
Here are the steps we took, which are suggested as a program of recovery:
1. We admitted we were powerless over alcohol — that our lives had become unmanageable.
2. Came to believe that a Power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity.
3. Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God as we understood Him.
4. Made a searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves.
5. Admitted to God, to ourselves, and to another human being the exact nature of our wrongs.
6. Were entirely ready to have God remove all these defects of character.
7. Humbly asked Him to remove our shortcomings. 8. Made a list of all persons we had harmed, and became willing to make amends to them all.
9. Made direct amends to such people wherever possible, except when to do so would injure them or others.
10. Continued to take personal inventory and when we were wrong promptly admitted it.
11. Sought through prayer and meditation to improve our conscious contact with God as we understood Him, praying only for knowledge of His will for us and the power to carry that out.
12. Having had a spiritual awakening as the result of these steps, we tried to carry this message to alcoholics, and to practice these principles in all our affairs.
Many of us exclaimed, “What an order! I can’t go through with it.’’ Do not be discouraged. No one among us has been able to maintain anything like perfect adherence to these principles. We are not saints. The point is, that we are willing to grow along spiritual lines. The principles we have set down are guides to progress. We claim spiritual progress rather than spiritual perfection.
Our description of the alcoholic, the chapter to the agnostic, and our personal adventures before and after make clear three pertinent ideas:
(a) That we were alcoholic and could not manage our own lives.
(b) That probably no human power could have relieved our alcoholism.
(c) That God could and would if He were sought.
Take hold of the Scriptural promise: if you seek, you will find.
Rarely have we seen a person fail who has thoroughly followed our path. Those who do not recover are people who cannot or will not completely give themselves to this simple program, usually men and women who are constitutionally incapable of being honest with themselves. There are such unfortunates. They are not at fault; they seem to have been born that way. They are naturally incapable of grasping and developing a manner of living which demands rigorous honesty. Their chances are less than average. There are those, too, who suffer from grave emotional and mental disorders, but many of them do recover if they have the capacity to be honest.
Our stories disclose in a general way what we used to be like, what happened, and what we are like now. If you have decided you want what we have and are willing to go to any length to get it — then you are ready to take certain steps.
At some of these we balked. We thought we could find an easier, softer way. But we could not. With all the earnestness at our command, we beg of you to be fearless and thorough from the very start. Some of us have tried to hold on to our old ideas and the result was nil until we let go absolutely.
Remember that we deal with alcohol — cunning, baffling, powerful! Without help it is too much for us. But there is One who has all power — that One is God. May you find Him now!
Half measures availed us nothing. We stood at the turning point. We asked His protection and care with complete abandon.
Here are the steps we took, which are suggested as a program of recovery:
1. We admitted we were powerless over alcohol — that our lives had become unmanageable.
2. Came to believe that a Power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity.
3. Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God as we understood Him.
4. Made a searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves.
5. Admitted to God, to ourselves, and to another human being the exact nature of our wrongs.
6. Were entirely ready to have God remove all these defects of character.
7. Humbly asked Him to remove our shortcomings. 8. Made a list of all persons we had harmed, and became willing to make amends to them all.
9. Made direct amends to such people wherever possible, except when to do so would injure them or others.
10. Continued to take personal inventory and when we were wrong promptly admitted it.
11. Sought through prayer and meditation to improve our conscious contact with God as we understood Him, praying only for knowledge of His will for us and the power to carry that out.
12. Having had a spiritual awakening as the result of these steps, we tried to carry this message to alcoholics, and to practice these principles in all our affairs.
Many of us exclaimed, “What an order! I can’t go through with it.’’ Do not be discouraged. No one among us has been able to maintain anything like perfect adherence to these principles. We are not saints. The point is, that we are willing to grow along spiritual lines. The principles we have set down are guides to progress. We claim spiritual progress rather than spiritual perfection.
Our description of the alcoholic, the chapter to the agnostic, and our personal adventures before and after make clear three pertinent ideas:
(a) That we were alcoholic and could not manage our own lives.
(b) That probably no human power could have relieved our alcoholism.
(c) That God could and would if He were sought.
Take hold of the Scriptural promise: if you seek, you will find.
The 12 steps of AA were expanded from a shorter set of steps that originated in an evangelical Christian organization known as the Oxford group. These same 12 steps of AA have been borrowed and slightly modified by hundreds of other groups that seek to help those looking for relief, by providing a solution that is solidly Biblically based. The crux of the program amply and undeniably points to God, by giving people tools to help them develop and maintain a personal relationship with Him.
I see the OP is now banned, but this info is given with the hope that it may help others.
The 12 steps of AA were expanded from a shorter set of steps that originated in an evangelical Christian organization known as the Oxford group. These same 12 steps of AA have been borrowed and slightly modified by hundreds of other groups that seek to help those looking for relief, by providing a solution that is solidly Biblically based. The crux of the program amply and undeniably points to God, by giving people tools to help them develop and maintain a personal relationship with Him.
I see the OP is now banned, but this info is given with the hope that it may help others.
Magenta -
Many Blessings to you for posting all of that !! A few years back I belonged to a 12-step group that helped me overcome a serious addiction - a 12-step based on AA principles. Many of AA's steps can be found in the account of Jesus' encounter with Zacchaeus. If it had not been for that group, I shudder to think of where I might be today...and I've seen some hard times!!
It may be interesting to note that AA was nearly called "The James Group". In the early days - before the formal formation of any group or steps - Bill W and Dr Bob would gather with other recovering alcoholics and they would read from scripture. Many times they would go through the book of James.
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Poinsetta
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I have the 12 step Bible and some books I read them all there is one last one about forgiveness for women but who am I forgiving? maybe when I turn into an old lady I will read it.
"Thank you 'Magenta' for being you!
I appreciate your thoughts and words, and I hope and pray God's 'presence' fills
your life with strength, courage and hope in your life issues, and that all goes well
concerning all things you are confronted with. And, I thank God for the few like you,
that are an inspiration in sharing one's love of God, and how our lives are truly changed,
and able to give testimony from experience...Praise God. Keeping our heart and thoughts
focused on God's 'inspiration' in our lives, helps us personally to cope with some of life's difficulties,
and to share how our lives have been changed...let us be glad in this! God's love bonds us in a
love that simply has to be lived and to share with others......'Praise God'........
