How many sins does it take for a christian to become aa sinner? John 9:31 Now we know that God hearth not sinners.
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That verse is referring to Jesus within us ..... the letter is a juxtaposition of Christ within who is sinless and the sin nature that we still have.
Translation: He’s a sinner. He’s forgiven, but he’s a sinner nonetheless. Same as you. Like I said earlier: semantics.
Correct on everything, except carnal believers are stumbling, not able to walk by the Spirit.
Semantics and senseless.
A person isn't a new creation in Christ if they're still a sinner after accepting Christ.
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No one will become righteous ...we have righteousness imputed to us.
We are positionally sanctified... we learn to express our position in Christ outward...the flesh is not being redeemed therefore we can never be sinless.
The glitch is NOT being filled with the Holy Spirit and thinking we can live a Holy life in our flesh.
I believe He is able to present us blameless because of who He is not because we are perfect.
We are being perfected, in Him, we must remain humble.
To those of you who never stumble, WOW, it must be hard not to become prideful. I do not mean that offensively. I say that because clearly, I still stumble, if not in action in my thoughts. He is always getting me back on track. I am so thankful.
Ok enough of this. Shhhhhh Charli.
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We are being perfected, in Him, we must remain humble.
To those of you who never stumble, WOW, it must be hard not to become prideful. I do not mean that offensively. I say that because clearly, I still stumble, if not in action in my thoughts. He is always getting me back on track. I am so thankful.
Ok enough of this. Shhhhhh Charli.
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I NEVER said the flesh will be redeemed. Our bodies will at the resurrection, but not our flesh/carnality is why we take up our cross, deny our flesh and follow Yeshua/Jesus. We can only do this if we are filled with the Holy Spirit.
On the contrary, the glitch is being filled with the Holy Spirit and thinking you’re sinless.
Why do you write Yeshua/Jesus all the time? It’s like me writing Laffter/Laughter.
God I wish people would actually read what someone says before their hunger for smartA remarks preceded thinking.
I'll say it again only as if I'm speaking aloud rather than expanding on someone elses thought.
A person isn't a new creation in Christ if they're still a sinner after accepting Christ?
That's not being saved from anything.
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EleventhHour
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The flesh means different things in scripture not just the physical.
Sin resides in our flesh...it is in our soul...mind, will and emotions.
CharliRenee- you are NOT a sinner. You are a true born again believer that loves God. I know you, but just like me and all believers- we stumble because of our flesh/carnality. We fall down, we ask for forgiveness, we get back up, we don’t quit, we keep trying to walk.
We just can’t walk in our flesh, we’ll stumble every time. We are to be filled with the Holy Spirit so we can walk by the Spirit and NOT fulfill the lusts of the flesh.