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If the 'Holy Spirit' speaks to one person and tell him one thing and then goes to another and tell him another thing which might and might not be contradictory to that which was told to the previous person, and so on and so on ... until we end up with a phenomenal number of different views, each contradicting others. What does that mean ?
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it depends on what the message is. they should all be receiving words from the HOLY BIBLE.
that GOD LOVES His children and want them to admit their sin, repent and return to a right and loving relationship with Him.
each person is different and each conversation unique for that person's point in their life.
there is a difference between PUBLIC revelations and PRIVATE ones.
most only get PRIVATE ones. most of mine are private except maybe 2 my whole life. one I've posted on this site and one I spoke to the church that baptized me that sunday in front of all 50 plus people.
that GOD LOVES His children and want them to admit their sin, repent and return to a right and loving relationship with Him.
each person is different and each conversation unique for that person's point in their life.
there is a difference between PUBLIC revelations and PRIVATE ones.
most only get PRIVATE ones. most of mine are private except maybe 2 my whole life. one I've posted on this site and one I spoke to the church that baptized me that sunday in front of all 50 plus people.
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you know I saw this on my thread before I was logged in and had you block. man, so that is the poison you are using now?
All I asked was you display a fruit of the SPIRIT!!! which is SELF CONTROL and control yourself and STOP posting on my THREAD. you speak EVIL into my life.
I did not say YOU did those things I said DEMON POSSESSED PEOPLE DID?
why do you think I refer to YOU? DID I name you as people who did them?
Did I not say in the dream we both were saved by the HAND OF GOD? but the alligators still what your soul and you have strongholds in your mind that you refuse to get rid of due to PRIDE another fruit of SIN and FLESH and darkness.
read Matthew 24: 31-46.
The bible study I am doing with the women in the community is reading "walking in faith: taking off the robes" by Jennifer Kostyal. A local girl from Bolivia, NC
"I was raised on a farm and there are two major differences between a sheep and a goat. A SHEEP will obey and is very submissive. A GOAT is full of "buts" and will not obey but will give you a million reasons why he or she CANNOT obey."
so why cant you OBEY or RESPECT my Request that you stop posting on my thread. STOP HARRASSING ME!!!!
James 1: 22 "be doers of the word, and not hearers only DECEIVING yourselves"
you are like Jesus spoke about in Matthew 15: 8-9, Psalms 78: 36, Isaiah 29:13
"These people draw near to me with their mouth, and honor me with their lips, but their HEART is far from me and in vain they worship me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of MEN."
you have the DEMON of LEGALISM in your heart. He is called LUCIFER.
again THE LORD REBUKE YOU.
All I asked was you display a fruit of the SPIRIT!!! which is SELF CONTROL and control yourself and STOP posting on my THREAD. you speak EVIL into my life.
I did not say YOU did those things I said DEMON POSSESSED PEOPLE DID?
why do you think I refer to YOU? DID I name you as people who did them?
Did I not say in the dream we both were saved by the HAND OF GOD? but the alligators still what your soul and you have strongholds in your mind that you refuse to get rid of due to PRIDE another fruit of SIN and FLESH and darkness.
read Matthew 24: 31-46.
The bible study I am doing with the women in the community is reading "walking in faith: taking off the robes" by Jennifer Kostyal. A local girl from Bolivia, NC
"I was raised on a farm and there are two major differences between a sheep and a goat. A SHEEP will obey and is very submissive. A GOAT is full of "buts" and will not obey but will give you a million reasons why he or she CANNOT obey."
so why cant you OBEY or RESPECT my Request that you stop posting on my thread. STOP HARRASSING ME!!!!
James 1: 22 "be doers of the word, and not hearers only DECEIVING yourselves"
you are like Jesus spoke about in Matthew 15: 8-9, Psalms 78: 36, Isaiah 29:13
"These people draw near to me with their mouth, and honor me with their lips, but their HEART is far from me and in vain they worship me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of MEN."
you have the DEMON of LEGALISM in your heart. He is called LUCIFER.
again THE LORD REBUKE YOU.
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whom shall I fear, whom shall I fear???
IF GOD IS WITH ME, WHOM SHALL I FEAR.
For GOD gave us not a SPirit of FEAR but of LOVE, KINDNESS and a Sound mind! Its in the BIBLE the book that rules my life, what about YOURS?
YouTube - Lincoln Brewster - Whom Shall I Fear (with Kari Jobe)
I'm talking to my BROTHERS AND SISTERS so if you do not qualify please exert some self control and DO NOT POST anything here.
IF GOD IS WITH ME, WHOM SHALL I FEAR.
For GOD gave us not a SPirit of FEAR but of LOVE, KINDNESS and a Sound mind! Its in the BIBLE the book that rules my life, what about YOURS?
YouTube - Lincoln Brewster - Whom Shall I Fear (with Kari Jobe)
I'm talking to my BROTHERS AND SISTERS so if you do not qualify please exert some self control and DO NOT POST anything here.
Got a question for you Ananda. Who is God angry at?
Matthew 28: 18 And Jesus came up and spoke to them, saying, "All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. Jesus said that ALL authority has been given to Him. The word all means, All!
Matthew 16: 18 "I also say to you that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build My church ; and the gates of Hades will not overpower it. This means that death cannot overcome Christ's church. The only power Satan has over anyone is death, caused by our own sins. Satan cannot touch Christ's church.
Romans 8: 38 For I am convinced that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor things present, nor things to come, nor powers, 39 nor height, nor depth, nor any other created thing, will be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. Once again, Satan cannot touch Christ's church, or remove anyone from it.
By the way, Jesus Christ has already defeated Satan!!
Your prophecy is false. Christ's church is not divided. Christ's church is spiritual. Doctrinal differences and denominations cannot divide those who belong to Christ, and reside in His church.
But let us suppose you are right, (though you are not). Then who would God be angry at?
If Jesus Christ has ALL authority in heaven and earth, then His church cannot be divided unless He allowed it. So are you saying that God is angry at Jesus? If Jesus has all authority, and therefore responsibility for His church, then according to you, God would have to be angry at Jesus!
Congratulations! You have succeeded in not only dividing Christ's church, but the Godhead as well!
Num 12:6 And he said, Hear now my words: If there be a prophet among you, I the LORD will make myself known unto him in a vision, and will speak unto him in a dream.
Jer 23:21 I have not sent these prophets, yet they ran: I have not spoken to them, yet they prophesied.
Jer 23:22 But if they had stood in my counsel, and had caused my people to hear my words, then they should have turned them from their evil way, and from the evil of their doings.
Jer 26:4 And thou shalt say unto them, Thus saith the LORD; If ye will not hearken to me, to walk in my law, which I have set before you,
Jer 26:5 To hearken to the words of my servants the prophets, whom I sent unto you, both rising up early, and sending them, but ye have not hearkened;
Jer 26:6 Then will I make this house like Shiloh, and will make this city a curse to all the nations of the earth.
Jer 35:15 I have sent also unto you all my servants the prophets, rising up early and sending them, saying, Return ye now every man from his evil way, and amend your doings, and go not after other gods to serve them, and ye shall dwell in the land which I have given to you and to your fathers: but ye have not inclined your ear, nor hearkened unto me.
1 Cor 14:32 And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets.
1 Cor 14:37 If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.
Jer 23:21 I have not sent these prophets, yet they ran: I have not spoken to them, yet they prophesied.
Jer 23:22 But if they had stood in my counsel, and had caused my people to hear my words, then they should have turned them from their evil way, and from the evil of their doings.
Jer 26:4 And thou shalt say unto them, Thus saith the LORD; If ye will not hearken to me, to walk in my law, which I have set before you,
Jer 26:5 To hearken to the words of my servants the prophets, whom I sent unto you, both rising up early, and sending them, but ye have not hearkened;
Jer 26:6 Then will I make this house like Shiloh, and will make this city a curse to all the nations of the earth.
Jer 35:15 I have sent also unto you all my servants the prophets, rising up early and sending them, saying, Return ye now every man from his evil way, and amend your doings, and go not after other gods to serve them, and ye shall dwell in the land which I have given to you and to your fathers: but ye have not inclined your ear, nor hearkened unto me.
1 Cor 14:32 And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets.
1 Cor 14:37 If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.
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I'm sorry but I felt the urge of making an intervention ...
AnandaHya, you contradict yourself within the same post. in the beginning, you said:
and at the end you made a shift of 180 degree and said:
and you did that within the same post (post # 186) ...
AnandaHya, you contradict yourself within the same post. in the beginning, you said:
and at the end you made a shift of 180 degree and said:
and you did that within the same post (post # 186) ...
that is the difference between HUMAN mind and GOD"S mind.
God doesn't change but His children do.
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Apologize perhaps I conjectured why God is mad. I do know God is angry and the earthly church appears very divided and how is that benificial in leading people to God? How does God benefit from the divisions and denominations that can't GET ALONG?
I'm fine with different denomination as there are different body parts in the body of Christ the difference is they are not cordial and not nice. I believe in interdenominational efforts and things that UNIFY people. Just forget it.
God is in control of everything and if you can't figure out what I'm saying, why or anything why don't you just ask GOD out of LOVE and Compassion and find out what the Holy Spirit says. I also suggest you read ALL the comments and you might figure out the WHY of my responses, or you might not.
God leads my life, you just see my HUMAN attempts at following His guidance.
neither of you ever made a mistake at interpertation and execution of God's message in your life?
I'm fine with different denomination as there are different body parts in the body of Christ the difference is they are not cordial and not nice. I believe in interdenominational efforts and things that UNIFY people. Just forget it.
God is in control of everything and if you can't figure out what I'm saying, why or anything why don't you just ask GOD out of LOVE and Compassion and find out what the Holy Spirit says. I also suggest you read ALL the comments and you might figure out the WHY of my responses, or you might not.
God leads my life, you just see my HUMAN attempts at following His guidance.
neither of you ever made a mistake at interpertation and execution of God's message in your life?
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THAT is the ONLY message I posted for this site and one more that was written specifically for some WORLDLY churches I know.
NOT Christ's spiritual church, who am I to guide that one?
GOD does that guidance of His Spiritual and earthly church. HIS earthly church just does not always listen to SPIRITUAL Guidance and sometimes need PEOPLE to SPEAK what God puts into there heart.
that is what PROPHECY is about. THE MESSAGE not the messenger.
NOT Christ's spiritual church, who am I to guide that one?
GOD does that guidance of His Spiritual and earthly church. HIS earthly church just does not always listen to SPIRITUAL Guidance and sometimes need PEOPLE to SPEAK what God puts into there heart.
that is what PROPHECY is about. THE MESSAGE not the messenger.
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note the message is for those who do NOT listen to the voice of the HOLY SPIRIT that is inside them NOT for the people who DO.
those are the two messages given. the rest is me trying to understand why there is contention about it all. and Paulnsilas picking on my shield of faith that GOD has given me by telling lies and putting words in my mouth.
those are the two messages given. the rest is me trying to understand why there is contention about it all. and Paulnsilas picking on my shield of faith that GOD has given me by telling lies and putting words in my mouth.
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note the theme of what I believe is the Holy SPirit speaking into my life (its in blue font above):
1. have faith and speak my words
2. God will punish the wicked and bring JUSTICE
God's grace is saving people who do not deserve it. that does not mean He will stop saving people who call upon HIM. there is a difference and I thought all God's children knew it.
God will always be with the people who keep His commandments and live by the Holy Bible. LIVES and believes in their HEART not just with their WORDS.
1. have faith and speak my words
2. God will punish the wicked and bring JUSTICE
God's grace is saving people who do not deserve it. that does not mean He will stop saving people who call upon HIM. there is a difference and I thought all God's children knew it.
God will always be with the people who keep His commandments and live by the Holy Bible. LIVES and believes in their HEART not just with their WORDS.
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Jesus and the BIBLE warns us of wolves in sheep clothing. I believe PaulnSilas is one. I did not want to believe it but that is what her words and how she has responded to me has made me believe. She told me she did not have to pray for me because I was a false prophet and not a child of God.
How do you EXPECT me to react?
I tried to do it in a Christian manner, but I am only human.
Matthew 15: 8-9, Pslam 78: 36; Isaiah 29:13
"in vain they worship Me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men"
that is the demon of legalism, that is Lucifer in his FALSE glory.
"Be doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves" James 1: 22
now there is a button: read all threads, see if she has ONCE gone to the prayer request forum and PRAY with anyone. just even once?
its called encouragement.
How do you EXPECT me to react?
I tried to do it in a Christian manner, but I am only human.
Matthew 15: 8-9, Pslam 78: 36; Isaiah 29:13
"in vain they worship Me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men"
that is the demon of legalism, that is Lucifer in his FALSE glory.
"Be doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves" James 1: 22
now there is a button: read all threads, see if she has ONCE gone to the prayer request forum and PRAY with anyone. just even once?
its called encouragement.
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Read page 9 my conversation with Uncle Fester and you might learn something.
I believe that I'm what is called a prophetess in the Bible because God reveals to me in dreams what will happen in my day before it happens. He leads me to Bible verses to strengthen my armor and helps me deal with people who are NOT of God who would destroy me with their words. It does not happen ever night of my life but when it does. I heed the warnings.
I had a dream about Paulnsilas.
it involved demonic alligators and sacrificed monkeys.
do you know what the symbolism of sacrificed monkeys means to me?
slavery.
white people thinking that Africans are less human and deserve to be slaves, thinking that native americans are just really smart monkeys, etc.
Paulnsilas thinks I am a monkey worthy of sacrifice and does not read the scriptures that say: bless your enemies.
so if she thought I was a enemy she still should have prayed for me. but I am a child of God and thus her words judge and condemn her,
I do not judge or condemn her but just compare her words and actions to what the BIBLE tells me of what a child of God should do and how she should act.
Read them for yourself. It is ultimately in God's hands if He choses to send her Grace and save her yet again.
I believe that I'm what is called a prophetess in the Bible because God reveals to me in dreams what will happen in my day before it happens. He leads me to Bible verses to strengthen my armor and helps me deal with people who are NOT of God who would destroy me with their words. It does not happen ever night of my life but when it does. I heed the warnings.
I had a dream about Paulnsilas.
it involved demonic alligators and sacrificed monkeys.
do you know what the symbolism of sacrificed monkeys means to me?
slavery.
white people thinking that Africans are less human and deserve to be slaves, thinking that native americans are just really smart monkeys, etc.
Paulnsilas thinks I am a monkey worthy of sacrifice and does not read the scriptures that say: bless your enemies.
so if she thought I was a enemy she still should have prayed for me. but I am a child of God and thus her words judge and condemn her,
I do not judge or condemn her but just compare her words and actions to what the BIBLE tells me of what a child of God should do and how she should act.
Read them for yourself. It is ultimately in God's hands if He choses to send her Grace and save her yet again.
Ananda, I feel that you are a very sincere Christian, who loves God and her fellow man. I think that you want to do the will of God, and that you have a good heart. The problem is that you have been mislead.
God DOES reveal things to us. You may call this prophecy, and actually the revelations that we get through the spirit are quite similar to prophecy, perhaps even synonomous. The difference is that those revelations are a deeper understanding of God, and His will for us, that comes by studying His Word, and by living a life of obedience to Him, and service to others. We do not receive prophecies that are intended to instruct, or to have authority in addition to that contained in God's word.
There is no office of prophet today, because Jesus Christ is head of His church. Does Jesus Christ need to be instructed by prophets? Is Jesus not able to reveal His will to us through Holy Spirit, whom He and the Father sent to teach us? In the past, prophets received the will of God, and revealed that will to the kings and other leaders of Israel, so that they could rule in accordance with God's will. But today, Christ is our high priest, AND KING. He does not need prophets to administer His spiritual kingdom.
We worship God in spirit and in Truth. When we are studying God's word, with a mind that is open to spiritual understanding, we receive His truths, through the power of Holy Spirit. We can use knowledge thus gained to instruct our families and others, but we do not have the authority to speak for God, which is what those holding the office of prophet do.
It is this concept of authority that is misunderstood. Ultimately, all authority resides with God, because He is the creator. Authority can be delegated. God has chosen to give ALL authority to Jesus Christ. That authority also resides in the written word of God. When you were a child, you had to take a note to school from your mom, when you were absent. That note, represented the authority that your mom had to keep you home from school. It had the same authority as if your mom were there with you when you handed it to the teacher. It is the same with God's holy scriptures. It has the same authority as if God were here speaking to you directly, because it is His word. We recognize the authority of the bible because we recognize the authority of it's author, God.
People like VW are very dangerous. I have watched him progress from a "shy" prophet, to one who openly attacks the bible, calling it idolatrous. Is it idolatrous to recognize the authority of the bible? Now he is saying that the bible canon is "man made" and is given it's authority by man, and not by God. Additionally, he is saying that the bible is incomplete, and therefore unable to provide the knowledge we need to know God's will, or for obtaining salvation through the blood of Jesus Christ. He has moved further and further away from God's will, and wishes to deceive others as well.
I have not seen this in you. You still recognize the authority contained in the bible. You have also seen that you can mistake the "feelings" that you think are from God, for those that originate in your own mind.
God loves us. Jesus is head of His church. He will instruct us in His will. But we must recognize His authority, contained in God's written word, and the power of Holy Spirit to reveal that will to each of us individually, and not seek for the honor and trappings of an office that no longer exists.
God bless you and keep you.
God DOES reveal things to us. You may call this prophecy, and actually the revelations that we get through the spirit are quite similar to prophecy, perhaps even synonomous. The difference is that those revelations are a deeper understanding of God, and His will for us, that comes by studying His Word, and by living a life of obedience to Him, and service to others. We do not receive prophecies that are intended to instruct, or to have authority in addition to that contained in God's word.
There is no office of prophet today, because Jesus Christ is head of His church. Does Jesus Christ need to be instructed by prophets? Is Jesus not able to reveal His will to us through Holy Spirit, whom He and the Father sent to teach us? In the past, prophets received the will of God, and revealed that will to the kings and other leaders of Israel, so that they could rule in accordance with God's will. But today, Christ is our high priest, AND KING. He does not need prophets to administer His spiritual kingdom.
We worship God in spirit and in Truth. When we are studying God's word, with a mind that is open to spiritual understanding, we receive His truths, through the power of Holy Spirit. We can use knowledge thus gained to instruct our families and others, but we do not have the authority to speak for God, which is what those holding the office of prophet do.
It is this concept of authority that is misunderstood. Ultimately, all authority resides with God, because He is the creator. Authority can be delegated. God has chosen to give ALL authority to Jesus Christ. That authority also resides in the written word of God. When you were a child, you had to take a note to school from your mom, when you were absent. That note, represented the authority that your mom had to keep you home from school. It had the same authority as if your mom were there with you when you handed it to the teacher. It is the same with God's holy scriptures. It has the same authority as if God were here speaking to you directly, because it is His word. We recognize the authority of the bible because we recognize the authority of it's author, God.
People like VW are very dangerous. I have watched him progress from a "shy" prophet, to one who openly attacks the bible, calling it idolatrous. Is it idolatrous to recognize the authority of the bible? Now he is saying that the bible canon is "man made" and is given it's authority by man, and not by God. Additionally, he is saying that the bible is incomplete, and therefore unable to provide the knowledge we need to know God's will, or for obtaining salvation through the blood of Jesus Christ. He has moved further and further away from God's will, and wishes to deceive others as well.
I have not seen this in you. You still recognize the authority contained in the bible. You have also seen that you can mistake the "feelings" that you think are from God, for those that originate in your own mind.
God loves us. Jesus is head of His church. He will instruct us in His will. But we must recognize His authority, contained in God's written word, and the power of Holy Spirit to reveal that will to each of us individually, and not seek for the honor and trappings of an office that no longer exists.
God bless you and keep you.