Honoring God through the foods we choose

[Blik]

What do you think about cooking food as opposed to raw?

This post is about changing the structure of food not about how it is prepared.

 

[laughingheart]

This post is about changing the structure of food not about how it is prepared.

Thanks for the response.

 

[tourist]

What do you think about cooking food as opposed to raw?

Better yet, just skip the food altogether and pop a multi-vitamin and a protein pill and call it good.

 

[tourist]

I suppose people will grow and process food to make them the most money, and what cost them the least amount of money to make.

And some feed the animals what cost the least.

Give them steroids to cause them to grow bigger for more meat to sell.

But as far as preservatives it has to be done for there is a lot of people to feed, and they cannot let food spoil that fast but make it last.

But of course they are going to try to make the most money possible but they also have to think of how many people there is to feed so they got to preserve that food.

But it seems like they go overboard like with a McDonald's hamburger that sits out for a week and still is not spoiled as if they have to preserve it that long, for it is fast food and most people eat it as soon as they get it, and how many people are going to leave it in their refrigerator for a month.

Cut back on the preservatives if any, and if it lasts only 2 days so be it, as long as it is not damaging their health with all those preservatives.

Don't buy canned food, and things that last for a while like rice or beans for the holocaust but buy a bunch of Mcdonald's hamburgers for they should last for about 10 years.

Also they like to use every bit of the food they can.

They sure did eat better years ago than now with their preservative being salt, and no chemicals.

Back then no preservatives, no chemicals, no steroids, no pollution, no radio waves and other technology waves that could do damage to the body disrupting their chemistry, probably no cancer, no flu virus for they said it was unheard of until radio waves came out.

They must have felt great physically and mentally back then what they do now, and Adam and Eve had it even better with the food in the garden that was top notch for the body, and there was no candy bars, and chips, no mountain dew, no saturated fat, no processed food.

Eating how God intended is the best way to eat and raising your own meat and crops is the best way and stay away from the store for food if you can help it.

The main thing has got to be money for why the food is not top notch, or they have to pump it out at a great rate to feed all the people.

People may have eaten better years ago without the preservatives and processing but yet their lifespan was relatively short compared to todays typical average lifespan.

 

[Blik]

People may have eaten better years ago without the preservatives and processing but yet their lifespan was relatively short compared to todays typical average lifespan.

This post is about choosing foods, but I have often wondered about this. They died of infections, accidents and such but while they lived they were in better health--it wasn't the diabetes, strokes, heart attacks that took them as it is today. Back then, the poor people were more robust, the ones who could afford white bread were sickly.
Now it has turned around. The poor people have to eat the processed food and the rich people can afford plain food.

 

[wolfwint]

God created us and He created our food to nourish us. Men decided to redo most of the food God created. They thought that it would be nice to change bread from wheat to white instead of brown, so they redid the wheat berry. They got rid of everything of it but the bland white fluffy part, changing the taste, color and nutrition. We feed animals the nutrition and eat what is left. We do the same with corn, taking out what men labeled the germ. We redo the oils God gave us and instead of pressing them they are “processed” and changed completely. Eggs are from chickens that don’t have the food that they were created to eat, so the eggs now can hurt our health instead of nourish us. Some people are learning and profiting by fermenting food. Choosing food just as God created it to be is not only honoring the Lord and respecting His creation, it adds to our well being.

Living God’s way, humbly following Him always is the best way for our wellbeing, even by eating food just as God created it for us.

As long we make no rule which food honors God most, the point is that we give God always the honor for the food he gives us. Fresh from the market ore out of a tin.

 

[Ella85]

Sorry. I am not sure about the tie in of Corona virus and food, and the sarcasm. I was just trying to open up conversation about the topic.

So was I 😊

 

[Dino246]

God is pleased with us? I do think God is more pleased with us when we follow Him and does react to any rebelling we do. Our rebelling does not make the Lord stop loving us, however. But I think the main results of our living our life as close to God's ways as we, as humans, can is in the earthly rewards we get. As in choosing foods closest to how God created them results in the food not causing such as diabetes, blood clots, and such.

Our bodies convert the starch of white bread into sugar that too much of results in diabetes, and bread of the entire wheat berry doesn't do this. Just one example.

While the consequences of poor food choices are, in some cases, known and even obvious, I still don't see the connection between what we eat and "pleasing God". Many people aren't making their own food choices but are eating poorly; are they rebellious? Is God displeased with them? No.

Please don't confuse the consequences of our choices with God's pleasure or displeasure. The one who is healthy is not necessarily the subject of God's pleasure, and the one who is sick is not necessarily the subject of God's displeasure. God's pleasure in us does not depend on the food we eat; rather, it depends on faith in the One He has sent.

 

[RevelationMan]

While the consequences of poor food choices are, in some cases, known and even obvious, I still don't see the connection between what we eat and "pleasing God". Many people aren't making their own food choices but are eating poorly; are they rebellious? Is God displeased with them? No.

Please don't confuse the consequences of our choices with God's pleasure or displeasure. The one who is healthy is not necessarily the subject of God's pleasure, and the one who is sick is not necessarily the subject of God's displeasure. God's pleasure in us does not depend on the food we eat; rather, it depends on faith in the One He has sent.

It is, however, displeasing to God if we eat food that our conscience forbids. If we choose to eat unhealthy food and our conscience gives us doubt it is better to not eat it. It is displeasing to God if we go against our conscience because we did not eat it in faith.

 

[Blik]

As long we make no rule which food honors God most, the point is that we give God always the honor for the food he gives us. Fresh from the market ore out of a tin.

Giving God thanks for our food is an entirely new topic, a good one. This post is about choosing things just as God creates it, and not using man's ideas to change it.

 

[breno785au]

Giving God thanks for our food is an entirely new topic, a good one. This post is about choosing things just as God creates it, and not using man's ideas to change it.

No, it's all connected. The crux of the issue of food is thankfulness. And I don't believe there is any displeasure on God's part for having chosen to eat food that has been modified.
Yet, if you decide within yourself that it is better to only eat unmodified food, that is not for me to judge as you are doing what is your conscience to honour God.

 

[presidente]

God created us and He created our food to nourish us. Men decided to redo most of the food God created. They thought that it would be nice to change bread from wheat to white instead of brown, so they redid the wheat berry. They got rid of everything of it but the bland white fluffy part, changing the taste, color and nutrition. We feed animals the nutrition and eat what is left. We do the same with corn, taking out what men labeled the germ. We redo the oils God gave us and instead of pressing them they are “processed” and changed completely. Eggs are from chickens that don’t have the food that they were created to eat, so the eggs now can hurt our health instead of nourish us. Some people are learning and profiting by fermenting food. Choosing food just as God created it to be is not only honoring the Lord and respecting His creation, it adds to our well being.

Living God’s way, humbly following Him always is the best way for our wellbeing, even by eating food just as God created it for us.

Aside from abstaining from the pollutions of idols and from blood, abstaining from gluttony and drunkenness, fasting at times the way Jesus taught, not stealing food, and respecting the consciences of others, I do not see moral obligations on all Christians (particularly Gentile Christians) on the type of food we eat. We should care for our health. Paul told Timothy to drink a little wine for his stomach's sake.

In a recent thread, someone posted a link to a study that showed that red wine contained something besides the alcohol that was good for gut bacteria. I listened to a video of the author of The Plant Paradox. He argued that a lot of health issues were related to problems with gut bacteria, including weight problems. He used to perform lots of heart surgeries, and was overweight himself. He thought whole grains were bad for you. If you eat wheat, his advice was to eat white refined flower not 'whole grains.' He lost a lot of weight by changing his diet. He eats a lot of sweet potatoes and green vegetables and douses his food with olive oil, consuming about a liter of it a week.

But his theory was based on evolutionary biology. He said you do not see gorillas eating the seeds off grass, so he preferred tubars. He says we are 90 something % the same as gorrillas with the main difference being gut bacteria. Gorillas have so much solid muscle but eat leaves. Much of our bodies are made of bacteria. I do not believe we came from apes, nor would I want to be like an ape, a less intelligent creature that might live to be 45. But from what he said, he lost a lot on his diet. And there are a lot of people with gluten allergies now. Tubars could be more gut-bacteria friendly than grains. If 'whole grain' part of the grain is less friendly to gut bacteria, it might be good to cut it out.

He was also against eating nightshades, tomatoes, bell peppers, chilli peppers, etc. He said if we did eat tomatoes to do like the Italians and remove the seeds first and that Italians did not historically have whole grain pasta. He also said not to eat beans unless you pressure cooked them, which got rid of the component he considered unfriendly to gut bacteria. As I recall, he was against squashes. No potatoes either, but sweet potatoes are okay. He was against most of the New World crops grown today.

I don't agree with the basis of his theory, but if it works for weight loss, it might help some people.

The big point to get out of this is that there are different approaches to determining what is healthy. Even the doctors disagree. Personally, I think the concern about sodium is overblown for most people.

 

[presidente]

Another interesting history is that of Crisco. It started as candle wax. Using it to replace lard seemed a blessing. Most of our beef is from cattle put in feedlots rather than range fed, and lard and beef from feedlot cattle, it was discovered, does not promote health. Crisco seemed a blessing. It took only nine years to find out that it caused heart attacks and strokes. Crisco had to decide whether to go ahead with their pot of gold as Crisco was or stop. You know what they decided.

This post cannot go into these things, we are discussing personal choices of individuals. We each have a choice to make--to choose foods as close to how God created them or foods that have been changed by man. I am bringing up the point that any choice we make to do things God's way without changing it is always best, even in choosing food.

I hadn't heard it was candle wax. I know it's not good for you, but fried chicken cooked in Crisco really tastes good.

 

[Blik]

Aside from abstaining from the pollutions of idols and from blood, abstaining from gluttony and drunkenness, fasting at times the way Jesus taught, not stealing food, and respecting the consciences of others, I do not see moral obligations on all Christians (particularly Gentile Christians) on the type of food we eat. We should care for our health. Paul told Timothy to drink a little wine for his stomach's sake.

In a recent thread, someone posted a link to a study that showed that red wine contained something besides the alcohol that was good for gut bacteria. I listened to a video of the author of The Plant Paradox. He argued that a lot of health issues were related to problems with gut bacteria, including weight problems. He used to perform lots of heart surgeries, and was overweight himself. He thought whole grains were bad for you. If you eat wheat, his advice was to eat white refined flower not 'whole grains.' He lost a lot of weight by changing his diet. He eats a lot of sweet potatoes and green vegetables and douses his food with olive oil, consuming about a liter of it a week.

But his theory was based on evolutionary biology. He said you do not see gorillas eating the seeds off grass, so he preferred tubars. He says we are 90 something % the same as gorrillas with the main difference being gut bacteria. Gorillas have so much solid muscle but eat leaves. Much of our bodies are made of bacteria. I do not believe we came from apes, nor would I want to be like an ape, a less intelligent creature that might live to be 45. But from what he said, he lost a lot on his diet. And there are a lot of people with gluten allergies now. Tubars could be more gut-bacteria friendly than grains. If 'whole grain' part of the grain is less friendly to gut bacteria, it might be good to cut it out.

He was also against eating nightshades, tomatoes, bell peppers, chilli peppers, etc. He said if we did eat tomatoes to do like the Italians and remove the seeds first and that Italians did not historically have whole grain pasta. He also said not to eat beans unless you pressure cooked them, which got rid of the component he considered unfriendly to gut bacteria. As I recall, he was against squashes. No potatoes either, but sweet potatoes are okay. He was against most of the New World crops grown today.

I don't agree with the basis of his theory, but if it works for weight loss, it might help some people.

The big point to get out of this is that there are different approaches to determining what is healthy. Even the doctors disagree. Personally, I think the concern about sodium is overblown for most people.

Lots of interesting study behind this post, I'm impressed.

The thought behind my post is when I realized it is a good thing to thank the Lord for what He has created rather than tell God they can do it better and redo what God created.

 

[wolfwint]

Giving God thanks for our food is an entirely new topic, a good one. This post is about choosing things just as God creates it, and not using man's ideas to change it.

But involves this not everything? God gave us the mind to change things to eat.The manhood could not live like 200 years ago. Many things where food is changed is to made it storable f.e.

 

[presidente]

But involves this not everything? God gave us the mind to change things to eat.The manhood could not live like 200 years ago. Many things where food is changed is to made it storable f.e.

I don't consider it a sin to eat the vegetables in the supermarket, but I would definitely prefer nonGMO. Pickling vegetables is a lot different than splicing genes into them so they will produce their own incecticides.

 

[oldethennew]

People may have eaten better years ago without the preservatives and processing but yet their lifespan was relatively short compared to todays typical average lifespan.

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Tourist,
you are asking 'why' people back then had a 'shorter' life span: well, they were subject to a myriad of infections, simply because
they were eating 'non-Biblical', and were certainly not adhering to the Biblical, hygienic principles...
also, of course the (((anti-biotics))) of today hadn't come into play back then nor later in the 20th century, as in today's
over-prescribed, (((counter-productive-medicine)))...

 

[Blik]

But involves this not everything? God gave us the mind to change things to eat.The manhood could not live like 200 years ago. Many things where food is changed is to made it storable f.e.

Changing food to help mankind is one thing, but changing what God creates because a man thinks his way is better than God's way is another. That is arrogant thinking, and if they were humble before their God, honoring His ways, they wouldn't think such things as that it would make wheat better if it was white, God's brown could be improved by man.

Such arrogance is true of all of how God created our world. God created a world that needs to be respected as it is created.

 

[oldethennew]

there's always room for im-provement...
!!!

 

[Lightskin]

I love butter 🧈❤️