Not By Works
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i would guess (not know) that - there alot of judgements being thrown around in different peoples posts. a ton of labels seem to get tossed around and applied to people here. this does not feel kind or loving necessarily and/or also -- does not help people rightly divide the Word of Truth - - with the Spirit but so often catorgorizes things (and can/ could be put- downs, degrading to them - although the authors might not always mean it that way) and people instead of seeking truth without degrading or labeling others or their beliefs (if only in appearance, for i know no one's heart and posts can be confusing in this respect :/ ).
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Limited Atonement:
Jesus died only for the elect. Though Jesus’ sacrifice was sufficient for all, it was not efficacious for all. Jesus only bore the sins of the elect. Support for this position is drawn from such scriptures as Matt. 26:28 where Jesus died for ‘many'; John 10:11, 15 which say that Jesus died for the sheep (not the goats, per Matt. 25:32-33); John 17:9 where Jesus in prayer interceded for the ones given Him, not those of the entire world; Acts 20:28 and Eph. 5:25-27 which state that the Church was purchased by Christ, not all people; and Isaiah 53:12 which is a prophecy of Jesus’ crucifixion where he would bore the sins of many (not all).
http://www.calvinistcorner.com/tulip.htm
Jesus died only for the elect. Though Jesus’ sacrifice was sufficient for all, it was not efficacious for all. Jesus only bore the sins of the elect. Support for this position is drawn from such scriptures as Matt. 26:28 where Jesus died for ‘many'; John 10:11, 15 which say that Jesus died for the sheep (not the goats, per Matt. 25:32-33); John 17:9 where Jesus in prayer interceded for the ones given Him, not those of the entire world; Acts 20:28 and Eph. 5:25-27 which state that the Church was purchased by Christ, not all people; and Isaiah 53:12 which is a prophecy of Jesus’ crucifixion where he would bore the sins of many (not all).
http://www.calvinistcorner.com/tulip.htm
There are two things in the New Testament that one should always be aware of: there is a final destination for all mankind: Either to the holy city, or to the lake of fire. The New Testament is a guide on how to enter the one and avoid the other.
And believing the gospel is not the only requirement to enter the holy city. (See Philippians 1:29).
If you have been convinced that you will not face the lake of fire under any circumstance, then naturally you will only see the passages that are addressed to the faithful follower of the Lord; those who take the scripture as a whole, taking heed to the warning passages. You apply all those scriptures to you.
The scriptures that contradict your doctrine are made of none effect through contrivance. You might as well cross those passages out of your Bible; you have no use for them; they don’t apply to you: you are convinced of this.
Man has had years to build his tradition using the Bible. Those traditions get more and more complex as the years pass. And followers grow and grow. At some point the traditional beliefs of men are elevated above the scriptures.
And the old saying of “If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it” comes to pass.
And if one comes along with truth, he seems as a liar to the deceived.
And believing the gospel is not the only requirement to enter the holy city. (See Philippians 1:29).
If you have been convinced that you will not face the lake of fire under any circumstance, then naturally you will only see the passages that are addressed to the faithful follower of the Lord; those who take the scripture as a whole, taking heed to the warning passages. You apply all those scriptures to you.
The scriptures that contradict your doctrine are made of none effect through contrivance. You might as well cross those passages out of your Bible; you have no use for them; they don’t apply to you: you are convinced of this.
Man has had years to build his tradition using the Bible. Those traditions get more and more complex as the years pass. And followers grow and grow. At some point the traditional beliefs of men are elevated above the scriptures.
And the old saying of “If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it” comes to pass.
And if one comes along with truth, he seems as a liar to the deceived.
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So many misinterpreted passages of scripture that result in "performance based -- type 2 works salvation" theology. 
Wake up people. From beginning "have been saved through faith" (Ephesians 2:8) to end "receiving the end of your faith--the salvation of your souls" (1 Peter 1:9) salvation is by grace through faith and is not by works.
Romans 1:16 - For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, for it is the power of God to salvation for everyone who believes, for the Jew first and also for the Greek.
Wake up people. From beginning "have been saved through faith" (Ephesians 2:8) to end "receiving the end of your faith--the salvation of your souls" (1 Peter 1:9) salvation is by grace through faith and is not by works.Romans 1:16 - For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, for it is the power of God to salvation for everyone who believes, for the Jew first and also for the Greek.
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Not really but you assume.
What can you do?
Ask the question and listen to the answer.
It really isn't that difficult.
If memory serves me I responded to a question that you asked to someone else with the same question.
Then you came at me and basically felt you were trying to ridicule me and put me down.
If you want to ask questions then be willing to accept the answer, if the question is reversed then answer rather than make them feel like crappy unbelievers.
What can you do?
Ask the question and listen to the answer.
It really isn't that difficult.
If memory serves me I responded to a question that you asked to someone else with the same question.
Then you came at me and basically felt you were trying to ridicule me and put me down.
If you want to ask questions then be willing to accept the answer, if the question is reversed then answer rather than make them feel like crappy unbelievers.
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How convenient that you left out the following verse... Philippians 2:13, "Therefore, my dear friends, as you have always obeyed—not only in my presence, but now much more in my absence—continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling, for it is God who works in you to will and to act in order to fulfill his good purpose."
So it's not by human work at all, is it?
So it's not by human work at all, is it?
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