Why isn't Trump trying to stop Russia from trying to kill U.S. soldiers?

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acts5_29

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He's not the first U.S. President to throw his own troops under the bus. When the USS Liberty was attacked by Israel, President LBJ called back the jets sent out to protect the American sailors.
 
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There are times when troops operate in a inferior position, or operational disadvantage to an enemy. However, a well armed military and national resolve defers an enemy from exploiting that disadvantage when they fear the consequences from a reprisal.

When insurgents are operating with impunity with your borders and occupy lands within your borders, retired military leaders publicly admonish their Commander in Chief over an order which they they lack the understanding to realize the necessity of, when unregulated migration of people who openly reject the authority of your government is not only permitted but encouraged and foreign influence is undermining the office of the President by constant ridicule then if the people fail to exercise the establishment of religion then all they will have left is fear.

You can't blame Putin for being a capitalist.

acts5_29 said:
He's not the first U.S. President to throw his own troops under the bus. When the USS Liberty was attacked by Israel, President LBJ called back the jets sent out to protect the American sailors
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You know who influenced that decision don't you....
 
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Papou said:
As the wise said, all road lead to Putin !
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Do we know whether it was Mark Esper who told Trump to do nothing about Russia's underhanded tactics? And do we know whether the intelligence agencies have been purged of Trump's enemies (who refuse give him timely intelligence briefs, or even give him misleading briefs)? The Deep State is still at work undermining Trump since the CIA, FBI, DOJ were never properly purged of all the traitors within.

Putin was never a friend of the USA and that should have been clear for a very long time. So Putin is not the problem as such. Both Russia and China hate the USA. But the Russian Collusion narrative was a TOTAL HOAX, yet not one of the conspirators -- starting with Obama -- was imprisoned for treason.

However, it was Hillary Clinton who was colluding with Putin (and selling him uranium secretly). The MSM deliberately suppressed this news and flipped the narrative on to Trump and the *Russian Collusion Hoax* for three years.

But what has happened since the beginning of 2020 (perhaps earlier) is that Mr, Trump has failed to purge all the traitors both within and outside the White House, and he has failed to remain totally focused in what matters. It appears that he has absolutely no sound advisers helping him to make critical decisions proactively. Leadership means planning way ahead of all crises, and that has not happened.

Instead of firing all those who should have been fired (or not even hired to begin with) he has surrounded himself with people who are out to sabotage him. He has also been sabotaging himself on an almost daily basis in many different ways, particularly catering to the media jackals. Then he has made numerous bad decisions (including failure to go after Russia a long time ago) and now everything seems to be crashing all around him.

The Wuhan pandemic was poorly handled and traitors were put in charge. Then the anarchy throughout the USA was not put down with a strong hand immediately, and again a traitor was put in charge. His own Secretary of Defense defied him, and Trump failed to fire him on the spot.
 
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NYT Finds Themselves in a Blunder Over Their Botched Russia-Taliban Story
[MORE FAKE NEWS FROM THE NYT?]

"...So this information is based on an anonymous source yet there are no details about how the operation took place, what American troops were targeted, how meetings were conducted or even how the Taliban received their so-called payments. Why are there no details?..."
https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bethb...terrorists-to-kill-american-soldiers-n2571481

But all the Lefties in their tweets reproduced in the article shown in the OP were quick to label Trump a traitor, while not one of them correctly labeled Obama a traitor? The Leftists in America -- particularly the media -- are the real traitors. They have been praising China for bringing America to its knees!
 
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acts5_29 said:
He's not the first U.S. President to throw his own troops under the bus. When the USS Liberty was attacked by Israel, President LBJ called back the jets sent out to protect the American sailors.
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Israel apologized for that and made reparations to the families. That was done by error, not with intent.
 
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acts5_29 said:
He's not the first U.S. President to throw his own troops under the bus. When the USS Liberty was attacked by Israel, President LBJ called back the jets sent out to protect the American sailors.
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It was a terrible mistake on Israel’s part. There’s nothing LBJ nor anyone else from the US could have done. That case is closed a long time ago, and we don’t have any problems with Israel which is one our most important allies.
 
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It was a terrible mistake on Israel’s part. There’s nothing LBJ nor anyone else from the US could have done. That case is closed a long time ago, and we don’t have any problems with Israel which is one our most important allies.
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But it's often brought up by people who are anti- Jew. Israel paid reparations for that. Several in fact.
 
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kaylagrl said:
Utter baloney.
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This was confirmed by both the US and British intelligence communities which indicate that there something wrong going on with the current administration ...
 
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Papou said:
This was confirmed by both the US and British intelligence communities which indicate that there something wrong going on with the current administration ...
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Already debunked
 
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Papou

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Debunked by who ? Putin, Trump, Fox News ... Trump is desperately obedient to Putin ! There is no doubt in my mind that Putin has something on Trump ...
 
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Papou said:
Debunked by who ? Putin, Trump, Fox News ... Trump is desperately obedient to Putin ! There is no doubt in my mind that Putin has something on Trump ...
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No doubt in your mind huh? And what makes you think that?! Trump has been harder on Russia than Obama ever was. Was he colluding with Russia? smh
 
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Papou said:
This was confirmed by both the US and British intelligence communities which indicate that there something wrong going on with the current administration ...
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Do you have any links that show any "concrete,tangible evidence"? Ive looked all over the internet and all I found was "NYT said,CNN said,Washington post said" and it's all being quoted from an anomalous source. All of the others are saying that they've heard this but only from the news and the Democrats.

If the news or the Democrats actually have evidence then they should give it to the officials in DC before some Taliban in Afghanistan comes driving up with a soldier's body asking who to get his money from. Until then if the news or the Democrats keep withholding the information they keep saying they have from those sources they themselves are who are putting those soldiers lives in danger because they say they have information but wont make it public record.
 
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Papou

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Do you have any links that show any "concrete,tangible evidence"? Ive looked all over the internet and all I found was "...
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I guess you haven't look at the right place. There are plenty of open news sources from the web that confirm it. The White House itself confirmed it, the Taliban too (but could we trust the Taliban ???), and so on. As the Lord said, Seek and ye shall find ...
 
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Papou

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kaylagrl said:
No doubt in your mind huh? And what makes you think that?! ...
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The past three year and a half of Trump presidency... I know we don't have the same opinion and I won't change mine and you won't change yours. This is the way it is ...
 
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Papou said:
I guess you haven't look at the right place. There are plenty of open news sources from the web that confirm it. The White House itself confirmed it, the Taliban too (but could we trust the Taliban ???), and so on. As the Lord said, Seek and ye shall find ...
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I know you can copy and paste a link you did in the OP so if you come across a link that has tangible evidence post away. Until then it makes more sense to believe what the government did say ,,,heard the rumor,did investigate,wasn't credible,didn't waste the presidents time with it...
 
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iamsoandso said:
... Until then it makes more sense to believe what the government did say ,,,heard the rumor,did investigate,wasn't credible,didn't waste the presidents time with it...
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This is definitively not a rumor unless you play the ostrich. Nobody can deny that there were intelligence assessments about Russia paying bounties to kill US troops. And this is definitively not a waste of time to brief the President about threat to the troops. And what does the President is doing now about it nothing as usual with Russia ...
 
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Papou said:
Debunked by who ? Putin, Trump, Fox News ... Trump is desperately obedient to Putin ! There is no doubt in my mind that Putin has something on Trump ...
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Looks like you have been TOTALLY DECEIVED AND HOAXED. That you can still believe this garbage is amazing, but it shows that the *Snowflakes* of America are clueless, and also *useful idiots* who will believe any Leftist nonsense as long as it attacks Trump. Most of the BLM protesters have no clue as to who is really pulling their strings.
 
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Papou said:
This is definitively not a rumor unless you play the ostrich. Nobody can deny that there were intelligence assessments about Russia paying bounties to kill US troops. And this is definitively not a waste of time to brief the President about threat to the troops. And what does the President is doing now about it nothing as usual with Russia ...
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Well then since this is your thread don't waste our time look on the internet or call one of the ones who are saying they have proof and show it to us. Until then the Democrats and their anonymous news sources are endangering the lives of our soldiers in Afghanistan. Think about it they are saying that the Taliban can get money if they kill a soldier and they can prove it but wont tell us how.
 
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