Pray for a COVID 19 Vaccine to be made available ASAP!

[Hungry]

Science was created by God. It is simply observing creation and recording facts about it. The laws of nature are created by God. There is no contradiction between true science and the Almighty's creation. The immune system can create antibodies when exposed to antigens of a virus (not a live virus itself) and this is the body's own natural immune system working to defeat the virus if exposed later. This is not playing God, it is no different than one who argues that one's immune system can created antibodies by ingesting some kind of vegetable smoothy being hawked by a quake online. They are wrong about it, the juice and vitamins do not cause your immune system to create an antibody to kill COVID but why people would rather believe that it does and think that it is the NATURAL method (even though it is some fake mixed product that does not occur in naturea vaccine is not natural is beyond me.

You are completely missing my point. I’m not sure if you read my post or it was too vague. I’m not against science....completely. I love and am fascinated with it. My point was; why are you praying for the medical profession to find a vaccine? If you are going to pray for the intervention of the Almighty, then pray He eliminates it altogether. Why have more faith in fallible doctors than our Saviour? Death is part of life. Whether people die in accidents, wars or plagues, or old age, it’s all just death. We should be praying that people find Christ while they can. Also, I’m extremely familiar with health and understand how the body works. Granted a spinach smoothy doesn’t generate antibodies. However a body that is well nourished, hormonally balanced and fit, has a better defence against most viruses.

 

[Susanna]

You are fighting a losing battle.

The left right paradigm is so entrenched in some people's brains they cannot even look at facts anymore.

The Spanish flu actually was more deadly for those with healthier immune systems... this is complicated stuff but now apparently some Christians prefer a dumbed down view of reality and prefer to misinformed than informed.

Yes, and from all these ignorant views the stopping of the virus is getting more difficult. Truly sad that utter incompetent people are making the calls. History will judge us harshly.

 

[Susanna]

You people scare me.

It’s no point in trying to reason with some of the extremists here. They will say whatever gibberish no matter what scientific proofs you are providing.

Some people here have a problematic relationship to science, vaccines and common sense in general. Unfortunately they are many, or these people have multiple accounts.

I hope you don’t let them run you down, because that’s what they are trying to.

 

[Moses_Young]

You are fighting a losing battle.

The Spanish flu actually was more deadly for those with healthier immune systems... this is complicated stuff but now apparently some Christians prefer a dumbed down view of reality and prefer to misinformed than informed.

True statements for once. These symptoms are consistent not with a virus, but with radio wave poisoning.

Taken from The Invisible Rainbow, Chapter 8, by Arthur Firstenberg (speaking on the "Spanish Flu" of 1918).
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This is consistent not with any respiratory virus, but with what has been known about electricity ever since Gerhard did the first experiment on human blood in 1779. It is consistent with what is known about the effects of radio waves on blood coagulation. Erskine and Knight saved their patients not by fighting infection, but by giving them large doses of calcium lactate to facilitate blood clotting.

Another astonishing fact that makes no sense if this pandemic was infectious, but that makes good sense if it was caused by radio waves, is that instead of striking down the old and the infirm like most diseases, this one killed mostly healthy, vigorous young people between the ages of eighteen and forty—just as the previous pandemic had done, with a little less vehemence, in 1889. This, as we saw in chapter 5, is the same as the predominant age range for neurasthenia, the chronic form of electrical illness. Two-thirds of all influenza deaths were in this age range. Elderly patients were rare. One doctor in Switzerland wrote that he “knew of no case in an infant and no severe case in persons over 50,” but that “one robust person showed the first symptoms at 4 p.m. and died before 10 the next morning.” A reporter in Paris went so far as to say that “only persons between 15 and 40 years of age are affected.”

The prognosis was better if you were in poor physical condition. If you were undernourished, physically handicapped, anemic, or tuberculous, you were much less likely to get the flu and much less likely to die from it if you did. This was such a common observation that Dr. D. B. Armstrong wrote a provocative article, published in the Boston Medical and Surgical Journal, titled “Influenza: Is it a Hazard to Be Healthy?” Doctors were seriously discussing whether they were actually giving their patients a death sentence by advising them to keep fit!

The flu was reported to be even more fatal for pregnant women.

A further peculiarity that had doctors scratching their heads was that in most cases, after the patients’ temperature had returned to normal, their pulse rate fell below 60 and remained there for a number of days. In more serious cases the pulse rate fell to between 36 and 48, an indication of heart block. This too is puzzling for a respiratory virus, but will make sense when we learn about radio wave sickness.
"

 

[Susanna]

True statements for once. These symptoms are consistent not with a virus, but with radio wave poisoning.

Taken from The Invisible Rainbow, Chapter 8, by Arthur Firstenberg (speaking on the "Spanish Flu" of 1918).
"
This is consistent not with any respiratory virus, but with what has been known about electricity ever since Gerhard did the first experiment on human blood in 1779. It is consistent with what is known about the effects of radio waves on blood coagulation. Erskine and Knight saved their patients not by fighting infection, but by giving them large doses of calcium lactate to facilitate blood clotting.

Another astonishing fact that makes no sense if this pandemic was infectious, but that makes good sense if it was caused by radio waves, is that instead of striking down the old and the infirm like most diseases, this one killed mostly healthy, vigorous young people between the ages of eighteen and forty—just as the previous pandemic had done, with a little less vehemence, in 1889. This, as we saw in chapter 5, is the same as the predominant age range for neurasthenia, the chronic form of electrical illness. Two-thirds of all influenza deaths were in this age range. Elderly patients were rare. One doctor in Switzerland wrote that he “knew of no case in an infant and no severe case in persons over 50,” but that “one robust person showed the first symptoms at 4 p.m. and died before 10 the next morning.” A reporter in Paris went so far as to say that “only persons between 15 and 40 years of age are affected.”

The prognosis was better if you were in poor physical condition. If you were undernourished, physically handicapped, anemic, or tuberculous, you were much less likely to get the flu and much less likely to die from it if you did. This was such a common observation that Dr. D. B. Armstrong wrote a provocative article, published in the Boston Medical and Surgical Journal, titled “Influenza: Is it a Hazard to Be Healthy?” Doctors were seriously discussing whether they were actually giving their patients a death sentence by advising them to keep fit!

The flu was reported to be even more fatal for pregnant women.

A further peculiarity that had doctors scratching their heads was that in most cases, after the patients’ temperature had returned to normal, their pulse rate fell below 60 and remained there for a number of days. In more serious cases the pulse rate fell to between 36 and 48, an indication of heart block. This too is puzzling for a respiratory virus, but will make sense when we learn about radio wave sickness.
"

Okay...

 

[EleventhHour]

You are completely missing my point. I’m not sure if you read my post or it was too vague. I’m not against science....completely. I love and am fascinated with it. My point was; why are you praying for the medical profession to find a vaccine? If you are going to pray for the intervention of the Almighty, then pray He eliminates it altogether. Why have more faith in fallible doctors than our Saviour? Death is part of life. Whether people die in accidents, wars or plagues, or old age, it’s all just death. We should be praying that people find Christ while they can. Also, I’m extremely familiar with health and understand how the body works. Granted a spinach smoothy doesn’t generate antibodies. However a body that is well nourished, hormonally balanced and fit, has a better defence against most viruses.

It really is not all just death... very wrong premise
This sounds more like secular, atheistic thinking that a Christian view point.

Do you support abortion? Is murder still wrong? Do we put in measures a civil society to guard life like seat belts, child seats etc.,?

I am amazed at people who are against abortion and yet are willing to take this laissez-faire attitude towards this pandemic.

Truly baffling.

 

[Scribe]

You are fighting a losing battle.

The left right paradigm is so entrenched in some people's brains they cannot even look at facts anymore.

The Spanish flu actually was more deadly for those with healthier immune systems... this is complicated stuff but now apparently some Christians prefer a dumbed down view of reality and prefer to misinformed than informed.

I suppose my main motivation is that believers will check their hearts when they

You are completely missing my point. I’m not sure if you read my post or it was too vague. I’m not against science....completely. I love and am fascinated with it. My point was; why are you praying for the medical profession to find a vaccine? If you are going to pray for the intervention of the Almighty, then pray He eliminates it altogether. Why have more faith in fallible doctors than our Saviour? Death is part of life. Whether people die in accidents, wars or plagues, or old age, it’s all just death. We should be praying that people find Christ while they can. Also, I’m extremely familiar with health and understand how the body works. Granted a spinach smoothy doesn’t generate antibodies. However a body that is well nourished, hormonally balanced and fit, has a better defence against most viruses.

I suppose I am praying for a vaccine because I believe God has given us the ability and responsibility to use the knowledge he gives us to fight disease. We can pray for people to be healed from cancer and we can also pray for science to discover a cure. I do not see a contradiction or a lack of faith for praying for both.

 

[EleventhHour]

I suppose my main motivation is that believers will check their hearts when they

I suppose I am praying for a vaccine because I believe God has given us the ability and responsibility to use the knowledge he gives us to fight disease. We can pray for people to be healed from cancer and we can also pray for science to discover a cure. I do not see a contradiction or a lack of faith for praying for both.

Agree... and should a vaccine be developed we can all do our research and decide.

Herd immunity is between 40 and 70 percent that is a huge span and it means a lot of death before it is reached.

And the people here who are so against each and every vaccine reap the benefits of the herd immunity because of others.

I wonder how they would really feel when measles, polio and small pox etc....
takes the lives of their family members.

 

[Hungry]

It really is not all just death... very wrong premise
This sounds more like secular, atheistic thinking that a Christian view point.

Do you support abortion? Is murder still wrong? Do we put in measures a civil society to guard life like seat belts, child seats etc.,?

I am amazed at people who are against abortion and yet are willing to take this laissez-faire attitude towards this pandemic.

Truly baffling.

If you can’t see the difference between abortion and a virus then I guess we just can’t agree. One is the murdering an unborn child because the pleasure of sex takes more priority over being responsible. The other is an act of God.

 

[EleventhHour]

If you can’t see the difference between abortion and a virus then I guess we just can’t agree. One is the murdering an unborn child because the pleasure of sex takes more priority over being responsible. The other is an act of God.

That is not the comparison, the comparison is the attitude that we do not need preventative measures because death is an act of God.

That is just not acting in accordance with moral law that states all life is important and should be protected.

Your thinking drawn to its logical conclusion would mean that all medical intervention is not important since we all die.

 

[Hungry]

That is not the comparison, the comparison is the attitude that we do not need preventative measures because death is an act of God.

That is just not acting in accordance with moral law that states all life is important and should be protected.

Your thinking drawn to its logical conclusion would mean that all medical intervention is not important since we all die.

True to some extent. Now I wouldn’t say putting pressure on an open wound is circumventing the will of God. I’m saying God designed it so all other species stay strong because the weak die before they can reproduce. We don’t have a buffer. So the medical profession does in fact stop God’s design to keep the human species strong. I’m not saying kill the weak and crippled. I’m making an observation only. God’s will is what we should pray for.

 

[GaryA]

Yes, and from all these ignorant views the stopping of the virus is getting more difficult. Truly sad that utter incompetent people are making the calls. History will judge us harshly.

Judgment Day will judge even more harshly...

 

[GaryA]

Truly baffling.

Why don't you unbaffle yourself.

Start by doing some excellent research.

Read the book Moses_Young refers to in post #124.

You should find it very interesting.

Read all of it.

 

[Susanna]

Judgment Day will judge even more harshly...

How will the pandemic deniers be judged on that final day?

 

[PennEd]

It's almost as if some of these people here are hoping the virus is as bad as we were lied to about.Truly sad.

Thankfully, it's not NEARLY as bad. Thank you Lord!

 

[Susanna]

The sad thing is that the virus is most likely worse than we thought, but I ain’t gonna try to convince anybody about anything, so we’ll all just have to do whatever we find best to stay safe. Hopefully they’ll have a vaccine ready shortly.

 

[PennEd]

Just a reminder of the evil behind the upcoming vaccine. He and his wicked wife are funding much of the research:

 

[GaryA]

How will the pandemic deniers be judged on that final day?

Not nearly as harsh as the evil-minded bunch that fomented this whole thing into existence and seek to profit from a skyrocketed fear-factor anxiety generated within the populace.

 

[Susanna]

Not nearly as harsh as the evil-minded bunch that fomented this whole thing into existence and seek to profit from a skyrocketed fear-factor anxiety generated within the populace.

Now, this you have to elaborate on, because it seems to me that you’re making claims without sources😉.

 

[GaryA]

Now, this you have to elaborate on, because it seems to me that you’re making claims without sources😉.

Your Source: the world around you

Requirement: Pay attention. Be aware.



My Source: 40+ years of paying attention and being aware