The Incarnation of God.

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Derek1955 said:
Neither will death be able to hold our bodies thanks to Christ defeating it.
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There's a difference. Evidence of death's grip is decay. After a weekend in the tomb the Body of Christ didn't decay. Decay begins when the body can no longer be animated by the soul if death as a hold on you.
 
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Mattathias said:
I reckon you really don’t care too much what The Southern Baptists say about Jesus, either. That’s fine with me.



I see Jesus presented in scripture as a human person who has a God.
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The Father says of the son "thy throne o God is forever and ever"
 
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Dino246 said:
I don't understand what you're getting at.


No.


I categorically reject the unitarian view. I believe, and can back up with Scripture, that Jesus is God. Titus 2:13 is merely the most direct case in Paul's writing.



Jesus Himself says, "My Father and your Father, My God and your God".
a. There is one Father.
b. No. There is one God. The Father is God, Jesus is God, and the Holy Spirit is God.
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Are you aware you hit the like button on his assasination of the person and testimony of Jesus?
 
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Mattathias said:
Thomas went from not seeing God (the Father) in Jesus to seeing God (the Father) in Jesus.

As for Paul, which passage(s) do you have in mind?

Do you think Jesus himself has a God? If so,

a. who and how many persons do you think that is; and
b. do you think there is any God besides his God?
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What organization do you align with?

Any links to those concepts you are preacing?
 
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Dino246 said:
I don't understand what you're getting at.

He is not necessarily posting his real belief.
The term "Jesus' God" is a product of his beliefs
 
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"You search the Scriptures, because you think that in them you have eternal life; and it is these that bear witness of Me; and you are unwilling to come to Me, that you may have life." (John 5:39,40). Words do battle with words. At best our understanding is finite but all that is required is to love Christ and Him that sent Him and to obey His commandments.
 
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Derek1955 said:
Jesus lost His humanity when, after His crucifixion He was resurrected and ascended to His Father. In John 20:17 Jesus said, "Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, 'I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.'" .
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In rev 5 he is the man found that could open the seals.
 
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An Incarnation tid bit.

Jesus was conceived with a soul in Glory. That's what we hope for. Our end in Glory with God. So Jesus didn't come here to fulfill a human life or sanctify His humanity. Jesus didn't come here to become our Savior. Jesus came here as our Savior. The light that came out of Him at the Transfiguration was the Light of a human soul in Glory.
 
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Dino246 said:
In other words, he's a troll?
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A dictionary definition of "troll" is that of an ugly dwarf or giant dates and comes from the Old Norse word "troll" meaning giant or demon, an antisocial, quarrelsome and slow-witted creature which make life difficult for travellers.

A strange description of another to be used by a Christian.
 
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Derek1955 said:
A dictionary definition of "troll" is that of an ugly dwarf or giant dates and comes from the Old Norse word "troll" meaning giant or demon, an antisocial, quarrelsome and slow-witted creature which make life difficult for travellers.

A strange description of another to be used by a Christian.
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I think he was talking about the member who was declaring "who was JESUS'S God?"

A troll is one trolling as a fisherman would . Going by with a bait....IOW not actually intending any productive interaction.
 
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Derek1955 said:
A dictionary definition of "troll" is that of an ugly dwarf or giant dates and comes from the Old Norse word "troll" meaning giant or demon, an antisocial, quarrelsome and slow-witted creature which make life difficult for travellers.

A strange description of another to be used by a Christian.
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You have the correct origin of the word, but not the correct usage. The word is used in internet discussion sites and comment sections of a person who participates primarily to stir trouble or denigrate other participants.

This site attracts more than its share. Stick around and you'll see what I mean. :)
 
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Dino246 said:
You have the correct origin of the word, but not the correct usage. The word is used in internet discussion sites and comment sections of a person who participates primarily to stir trouble or denigrate other participants.

This site attracts more than its share. Stick around and you'll see what I mean. :)
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Both definitions appear almost identical to me....
 
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Mattathias said:
I like your point that it was God the Father who spoke to Moses.

Are you saying that Jesus is identified in the NT as God the Father?



Yes.
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I did not see a reply to my question of your faith/affiliation
Are you Pentecostal oneness?

Something else?
 
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Mattathias said:
I like your point that it was God the Father who spoke to Moses.

Are you saying that Jesus is identified in the NT as God the Father?



Yes.
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"" Are you saying that Jesus is identified in the NT as God the Father""

How do you identify him or what objection do you have to the trinitarian view?
 
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Derek1955 said:
Both definitions appear almost identical to me....
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They are certainly related, which is why the term is used. In internet-speak though, the term is used more of a person who is misguided or being a jerk than someone who is fundamentally bent on evil... though there are those also.
 
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Chester said:
Orthodox trinitarianism - belief in the Trinity - teaches that Jesus Christ is 100% God and is also 100% man.
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Was Jesus made lower than the angels

what does that mean
 
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