Random thought- first born deaths in Egypt

[miknik5]

As I said, I would like to think so but its an argument from silence.

Was hoping to have examples of any egyptians who were close enough to their Jewish slaves, who actually did that.

Nevermind, there are many questions where the scripture is silence that I would really like to know, guess we have to wait until heaven to really know for sure.

Another question is, "Did James and the elders accepted the money that Paul raised from the Gentile churches and delivered to them in Acts 21?"

I don´t know...do you think the marking of their doors was to signify something deeper than the marking of their doors?

 

[miknik5]

That passage is trying to urge Gentiles to contribute to the poor saints in Jerusalem yes.

But Acts 21 was silent on whether James and the elders did accept the money. If you read vs20-25, they were mentioning some unhappiness among Jewish believers about what Paul said regarding circumcision, and suggested Paul pay for some Jewish ceremonies, which would involved money. That money could have came from the money raised.

Either way, scripture is silent there.

It isn´t silent on the matter at all...please reread what they used the money for...

thank you

 

[miknik5]

Yep, this verse stated "All the Egyptians", so it can give people the impression that, even if Egyptians would have entered the house of the Jews and stayed throughout the whole night, their first born might not have been saved.

Never The angel of death passed over those houses which were marked...

 

[miknik5]

So what I was asking is, "Supposed an egyptian chose to put his entire family in the same house as a Jew who put the blood on the doorpost, would their first born also be spared that night?"

What do you think?

I have a question....How would they have gotten this information regarding what Moses had been advised to do?

 

[John146]

I have a question....How would they have gotten this information regarding what Moses had been advised to do?

What’s interesting is the decision of the father spared their son from death. The son had no say?

 

[Guojing]

I have a question....How would they have gotten this information regarding what Moses had been advised to do?

I presumed there will be some Eqyptians among them who would have heard or seen the earlier signs that Moses did to Phaorah and believed.

 

[Guojing]

It isn´t silent on the matter at all...please reread what they used the money for...

thank you

You care to explain which scripture stated that James and the elders accepted the money in Acts 21?

 

[Prycejosh1987]

How did that work? I mean, for example, I'm my mother's first born, and my father's 3rd child. so, if my parents were both Egyptians, does that mean I would have died along with my oldest brother who's 10 years older than me? Does that mean my half sister who is the first born of my stepmother would have passed too? That would be 3 death for one person, and 1 each for his other 2 wives.

It sounds like a tongue twister, but you have to remember that it was first born males only. I guess the oldest of each parent would have died.

 

[massorite]

It sounds like a tongue twister, but you have to remember that it was first born males only. I guess the oldest of each parent would have died.

Correct

 

[SoulWeaver]

Exodus 13:2 Sanctify unto me all the firstborn, whatsoever openeth the womb among the children of Israel, both of man and of beast: it is mine.

Luke 2:23 (As it is written in the law of the Lord, Every male that openeth the womb shall be called holy to the Lord; )

This should give some clues as to who died from the Egyptians.

These verses being foreshadowing how Jesus "opened the womb", the first fruits of resurrection "opening the womb" to cause believers to bear much fruit.

 

[MattforJesus]

The question I really want to find out in heaven is that, supposed an egyptian chose to put his entire family in the same house as a Jew who put the blood on the doorpost, would my first born also be spared that night?

The only reason an Egyptian family would be in a Jews house would be if they believed in order for their fist born son to be spared they would of had to have blood on the house.

The Egyptians would not be there for any other reason but to save their first born son.

But after 9 plagues many Egyptians would of had to believe that the plague was coming but they did not know about putting blood on their house, for if they knew many would of did it.

It would seem like they would be saved for believing in the blood on the house, or were the first born to die anyway regardless if they were in a Jews house for God said all the first born would die, so they would not be able to escape it.

And if it is prophesy that all the first born son would die then no Egyptian family would be in a Jews house.

And why go to a Jews house when you can put the blood on your own house.

God did not say some will die but all the first born would die, so if they could be saved in a Jews house they would not be there.

But if God said some will not die then some could be in a Jews house, or put the blood on their own house.

 

[Guojing]

The only reason an Egyptian family would be in a Jews house would be if they believed in order for their fist born son to be spared they would of had to have blood on the house.

The Egyptians would not be there for any other reason but to save their first born son.

But after 9 plagues many Egyptians would of had to believe that the plague was coming but they did not know about putting blood on their house, for if they knew many would of did it.

It would seem like they would be saved for believing in the blood on the house, or were the first born to die anyway regardless if they were in a Jews house for God said all the first born would die, so they would not be able to escape it.

And if it is prophesy that all the first born son would die then no Egyptian family would be in a Jews house.

And why go to a Jews house when you can put the blood on your own house.

God did not say some will die but all the first born would die, so if they could be saved in a Jews house they would not be there.

But if God said some will not die then some could be in a Jews house, or put the blood on their own house.

What I am saying is that, if the Egyptians had done it on their own, kill a lamb and put the blood on their own house doors, it would not have worked.

But if they hide their entire family in the house of a Jew who did that, it would have worked.