LET THE WOMAN LEARN IN SILENCE - WHAT DO YOU THINK THIS MEANS?

[Truth7t7]

I appreciate your input. I suppose it will not matter if the preacher lives in a 500K home there will always be people who live in 60k homes are going to automatically say he spent the members offerings to buy it and they will not even feel ashamed if they find out his dad died and left it to him as an inheritance. They will shift and say..."well a preacher should not have that kind of house because it looks bad" That is why I believe that preachers have to expect to face constant criticism. They have to just keep their eyes on Jesus and seek to please God and let the tongues wag because they will always wag no matter where he lives, what he drives or what he preaches. Pastors have to have really thick skin.

Why do you try and distract from the truth as seen below, you think Joyce Myer inherited that (2003) wealth form her dad in some inheritance

Why Pinocchio Your Nose Is Growing Again

The Meyer Family Compound

Joyce Myer fleecing the ignorant in the name of Jesus Christ, Sad!

Nеt Wоrth & Еаrnіngѕ:
Тhе nеt wоrth оf Јоусе Меуеr іѕ $9.5 mіllіоn. Моѕt оf wеаlth аnd fаmе соmеѕ frоm hеr tеlеvіѕіоn рrоgrаm, ‘Еnјоуіng Еvеrуdау Lіfе’ thаt іѕ brоаdсаѕt tо thіѕ dау. Тhіѕ tеlеvіѕіоn рrоgrаm bеgаn іn 2003 аftеr hеr huѕbаnd оffеrеd thе іdеа. Јоусе Меуеrѕ аnd hеr huѕbаnd, Dаvе, hаvе bееn іn соntrоvеrѕіеѕ rеlаtеd tо thеіr ехсеѕѕіvе grаnd lіfеѕtуlе. Тhе соuрlе оwnѕ ѕеvеrаl hоmеѕ аnd trаvеlѕ іn thеіr оwn рrіvаtе јеt.

Аѕ реr Јоусе Меуеr’ѕ fіnаnсіаl rероrt (2003): Ѕhе еаrnеd аn аnnuаl ѕаlаrу оf $900,000 frоm Јоусе Меуеr Міnіѕtrіеѕ. Јоусе Меуеr Міnіѕtrіеѕ’ hеаdquаrtеrѕ wаѕ wоrth $20,000,000. Іntеrіоr dесоrаtіоn (аrtwоrk, furnіturе, glаѕѕwаrе, lаtеѕt еquірmеnt, аnd mасhіnеrу) оf hеаdquаrtеr wаѕ wоrth $5,700,000. Ноuѕеѕ: Маіn hоuѕе wаѕ wоrth $2,000,000. Сhіldrеn’ѕ hоuѕе wаѕ wоrth $2,000,000. Аtrіum Rаnсh Lаkе Frоnt hоmе іn Роrtо Сіmа wаѕ wоrth $500,000. Оthеrѕ: Сrоwnlіnе bоаt саllеd ‘Раtrіоt’ wаѕ wоrth $105,000. Меrсеdеѕ Ѕеdаn (ѕіlvеr-grау) wаѕ wоrth $107,000. Јоусе Меуеr’ѕ Соrроrаtе Јеt wаѕ wоrth $10,000,000.

https://www.thewealthrecord.com/cel...-2023-2024-2025/author/joyce-meyer-net-

 

[Truth7t7]

I have a parable for you. One man complained about children who could have been fed by another mans assets and another man fed children worldwide and still had assets left over. Who fed the children? What can you do to feed children today? Do that. Leave the other to face God for what they are responsible for.

Your trying to tell me to shut up be silent, and stop exposing the evil deception of the prosperity gospel as seen in Joyce Myer

She will be exposed presently, and she will face God at her judgement day, how about that

 

[Dino246]

It has 100% relevance to the thread, truth you dont want to hear

Garbage. This thread isn't about Joyce Meyer, and it isn't about me. Don't try to make it about either.

The thread is dealing with women, and their roll in the church.

No it is not. It is dealing with the question, "Let the woman learn in silence; what do you think this means?" Joyce Meyer's personal assets are absolutely irrelevant to the discussion.

By the way, the word is "role". Maybe you didn't pay attention when your female third-grade teacher taught you proper word usage.

 

[Scribe]

Why do you try and distract from the truth as seen below, you think Joyce Myer inherited that (2003) wealth form her dad in some inheritance

Why Pinocchio Your Nose Is Growing Again

The Meyer Family Compound

Joyce Myer fleecing the ignorant in the name of Jesus Christ, Sad!

Nеt Wоrth & Еаrnіngѕ:
Тhе nеt wоrth оf Јоусе Меуеr іѕ $9.5 mіllіоn. Моѕt оf wеаlth аnd fаmе соmеѕ frоm hеr tеlеvіѕіоn рrоgrаm, ‘Еnјоуіng Еvеrуdау Lіfе’ thаt іѕ brоаdсаѕt tо thіѕ dау. Тhіѕ tеlеvіѕіоn рrоgrаm bеgаn іn 2003 аftеr hеr huѕbаnd оffеrеd thе іdеа. Јоусе Меуеrѕ аnd hеr huѕbаnd, Dаvе, hаvе bееn іn соntrоvеrѕіеѕ rеlаtеd tо thеіr ехсеѕѕіvе grаnd lіfеѕtуlе. Тhе соuрlе оwnѕ ѕеvеrаl hоmеѕ аnd trаvеlѕ іn thеіr оwn рrіvаtе јеt.

Аѕ реr Јоусе Меуеr’ѕ fіnаnсіаl rероrt (2003): Ѕhе еаrnеd аn аnnuаl ѕаlаrу оf $900,000 frоm Јоусе Меуеr Міnіѕtrіеѕ. Јоусе Меуеr Міnіѕtrіеѕ’ hеаdquаrtеrѕ wаѕ wоrth $20,000,000. Іntеrіоr dесоrаtіоn (аrtwоrk, furnіturе, glаѕѕwаrе, lаtеѕt еquірmеnt, аnd mасhіnеrу) оf hеаdquаrtеr wаѕ wоrth $5,700,000. Ноuѕеѕ: Маіn hоuѕе wаѕ wоrth $2,000,000. Сhіldrеn’ѕ hоuѕе wаѕ wоrth $2,000,000. Аtrіum Rаnсh Lаkе Frоnt hоmе іn Роrtо Сіmа wаѕ wоrth $500,000. Оthеrѕ: Сrоwnlіnе bоаt саllеd ‘Раtrіоt’ wаѕ wоrth $105,000. Меrсеdеѕ Ѕеdаn (ѕіlvеr-grау) wаѕ wоrth $107,000. Јоусе Меуеr’ѕ Соrроrаtе Јеt wаѕ wоrth $10,000,000.

https://www.thewealthrecord.com/cel...-2023-2024-2025/author/joyce-meyer-net-

I already answered. It does not matter to me. I said Good for Her. We disagree. Your being repetitive. You have not added anything to your original argument. I believe women can preach. I know Joyce Meyers can. She doesn't care what you think about her assets either. She will answer to God. You will answer to God. He will sort it all out in that day.

 

[DesertWanderer]

But what saith the Scriptures...

I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet. 1 Tim. 2:12

The women should keep silent in the churches. For they are not permitted to speak, but should be in submission, as the Law also says. 1 Cor. 14:34

But I want you to understand that the head of every man is Christ, the head of a wife is her husband, and the head of Christ is God. 1 Cor. 11:3

Wives, submit to your own husbands, as to the Lord. Eph. 5:22

To the woman he said, “I will surely multiply your pain in childbearing; in pain you shall bring forth children. Your desire shall be for your husband, and he shall rule over you. Gen 3:16

For man was not made from woman, but woman from man. 1 Cor. 11:8

If there is anything they desire to learn, let them ask their husbands at home. For it is shameful for a woman to speak in church. 1 Cor. 14:35

 

[Scribe]

Why do you try and distract from the truth as seen below, you think Joyce Myer inherited that (2003) wealth form her dad in some inheritance

Why Pinocchio Your Nose Is Growing Again

I know this much... you ought to be more concerned about your aggressive, hostile, unkind communications to other christians (or anyone else for that matter) on an internet chat site than you are about what Joyce Meyers does with her money.

Even if you think you are supposed to correct something you see as not biblical you are still supposed to do it in a biblical manner which would be as follows:

24 And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient,

25 In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves;

 

[Dino246]

I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet. 1 Tim. 2:12

Find out the cultural context into which this was written.

The women should keep silent in the churches. For they are not permitted to speak, but should be in submission, as the Law also says. 1 Cor. 14:34

Three chapters after Paul says they can pray or prophesy. Something doesn't add up.

But I want you to understand that the head of every man is Christ, the head of a wife is her husband, and the head of Christ is God. 1 Cor. 11:3

Wives, submit to your own husbands, as to the Lord. Eph. 5:22

Wives and husbands is not the church assembly.

To the woman he said, “I will surely multiply your pain in childbearing; in pain you shall bring forth children. Your desire shall be for your husband, and he shall rule over you. Gen 3:16

This is a statement of consequence, not a command, and not a statement of God's desire.

For man was not made from woman, but woman from man. 1 Cor. 11:8

Irrelevant, on its own.

If there is anything they desire to learn, let them ask their husbands at home. For it is shameful for a woman to speak in church. 1 Cor. 14:35

I guess the unmarried women are hooped. I guess they shouldn't even bother coming to church then.

Taking verses out of context and attempting to build doctrine is NOT a sound method of biblical interpretation.

 

[DesertWanderer]

so tell me. do you not agree with GAWD?

“You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain, for the Lord will not hold guiltless anyone who takes his name in vain Exodus 20:7

 

[Dino246]

Your trying to tell me to shut up be silent, and stop exposing the evil deception of the prosperity gospel as seen in Joyce Myer

He's not, but I will:

Shut Up!

You are shouting in the wrong place. If you want to bleat about Joyce Meyer, start a thread about it. This is not the appropriate place.

 

[Scribe]

I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet. 1 Tim. 2:12

The women should keep silent in the churches. For they are not permitted to speak, but should be in submission, as the Law also says. 1 Cor. 14:34

But I want you to understand that the head of every man is Christ, the head of a wife is her husband, and the head of Christ is God. 1 Cor. 11:3

Wives, submit to your own husbands, as to the Lord. Eph. 5:22

To the woman he said, “I will surely multiply your pain in childbearing; in pain you shall bring forth children. Your desire shall be for your husband, and he shall rule over you. Gen 3:16

For man was not made from woman, but woman from man. 1 Cor. 11:8

If there is anything they desire to learn, let them ask their husbands at home. For it is shameful for a woman to speak in church. 1 Cor. 14:35

Nothing there banning them from preaching.

I think I might be able to explain why people associate usurping authority over a man as equal with preaching the bible in a church. It is going to take me a little time to write it up in such a way that the LIGHT comes on for the reader. I will try to get to it over the next few days if possible with my current study schedule. It has to do with the history of the Roman Catholic Church and the emphasis on Liturgical Ministry rather then Evangelical Proclamation ministry. The idea that the ordained ministry was that of a PRIESTLORD who exercised authority over the flock. The Protestant movement restored the ministry back to the priesthood of the believers and that of Gospel Preaching rather than PRIEST LORD of administering sacraments and ruling over the flock but we are still in need of reformation in our minds and redefining biblical ministry when it comes to this idea of AUTHORITY in ministry. Like I said, it will take some time to do it justice using the original greek for ministry related texts in the New Testament and showing where the ministry changed in church history to a Lording it over the flock.

 

[DesertWanderer]

Irrelevant, on its own.

Is John 3:16 irrelevant, also?

 

[Scribe]

He's not, but I will:

Shut Up!

You are shouting in the wrong place. If you want to bleat about Joyce Meyer, start a thread about it. This is not the appropriate place.

smh

 

[Dino246]

Is John 3:16 irrelevant, also?

To this discussion? Yes.

 

[Blik]

Paul addressed church order, women are to be silent, and learn from their husbands at home.

Paul didn't attend the MeToo movements feminist equality classes, it appears the liberals concerns have spread everywhere?

Does this mean to you that you deny the importance Paul gave to women?

 

[Truth7t7]

I know this much... you ought to be more concerned about your aggressive, hostile, unkind communications to other christians (or anyone else for that matter) on an internet chat site than you are about what Joyce Meyers does with her money.

Even if you think you are supposed to correct something you see as not biblical you are still supposed to do it in a biblical manner which would be as follows:

24 And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient,

25 In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves;

It's your false claim and opinion of agressive hostility and unkind communications, sorta like trying to control my speech that you disagree with, just like the liberals in America.

You think Jesus Christ was giving hugs when he turned the moneychanger tables over in the temple, Big Smiles!

You think he was smiling and hugging the Scribes and Pharisees seen below, perhaps you can shout out words of correction to God The Creator Jesus Christ, Big Smiles!

Perhaps Jesus Needs A Little Training In 21st Century Conflict Resolution, His Aggressive Antisemetic Behavior Should Be Reported, Psychological Evaluation And A Rubber Room?

Matthew 23:23-33KJV
23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.
24 Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.
25 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess.
26 Thou blind Pharisee, cleanse first that which is within the cup and platter, that the outside of them may be clean also.
27 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness.
28 Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.
29 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous,
30 And say, If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets.
31 Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets.
32 Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers.
33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?

 

[DesertWanderer]

Three chapters after Paul says they can pray or prophesy. Something doesn't add up.

Are you willing to tell the Creator of the universe His Word doesn't "add up?"

 

[SoulWeaver]

I fully agree, many apostate liberal denominations started with women pastors, now it's homosexual lesbian pastors?

Sign if the end times?

One has nothing to do with the other, there are also male gay pastors nowadays.
I guess blame the woman for everything forever, as our forefather Adam set the precedent ("the woman whom You gave me")...

 

[Truth7t7]

Nothing there banning them from preaching.

I think I might be able to explain why people associate usurping authority over a man as equal with preaching the bible in a church. It is going to take me a little time to write it up in such a way that the LIGHT comes on for the reader. I will try to get to it over the next few days if possible with my current study schedule. It has to do with the history of the Roman Catholic Church and the emphasis on Liturgical Ministry rather then Evangelical Proclamation ministry. The idea that the ordained ministry was that of a PRIESTLORD who exercised authority over the flock. The Protestant movement restored the ministry back to the priesthood of the believers and that of Gospel Preaching rather than PRIEST LORD of administering sacraments and ruling over the flock but we are still in need of reformation in our minds and redefining biblical ministry when it comes to this idea of AUTHORITY in ministry. Like I said, it will take some time to do it justice using the original greek for ministry related texts in the New Testament and showing where the ministry changed in church history to a Lording it over the flock.

It appears you support the liberal wing with what calls itself the church?

Females and homosexuals behind the pulpits, let's all hug and love one another, wave the rainbow flags in the name of Jesus, were a reconciling church, all are welcome, no need to change?

 

[Truth7t7]

One has nothing to do with the other, there are also male gay pastors nowadays.
I guess blame the woman for everything forever, as our forefather Adam set the precedent ("the woman whom You gave me")...

Do you approve of "Practicing" homosexuals behind the pulpit, using the name of Jesus Christ?

 

[SoulWeaver]

Do you approve of "Practicing" homosexuals behind the pulpit, using the name of Jesus Christ?

No, I don't believe homosexuals belong at the pulpit. I was talking about you blaming women pastors for LGBT at the pulpit. There are male gay pastors as well so I don't see why is this made into a "women bad" thing.