The Complacent christian world.

[Ramon]

I hope you'll be encouraged by this e-mail a brother in Lord sent me:
HI Saints.

Baptize by fire. Here is a little view for you. I once had a thought or a vision, a dream or whatever you would like call it. I was standing in a room with bunches of brothers and we were all standing there flexing our muscles in the Lord. Our spirituality. Awesome. Like roosters just crowing away. In this room was a furnace and the furnace wasn't even on, the heat had not even been turn on. But about that time Jesus Christ walked into room wearing workman's overalls. All the brothers got the look of worry on their face, because we knew what was about to happen. Jesus reached down and flip the switch on the furnace and turned the heat on. You know what happen? All the our muscles started melting off. We were melted down to barely nothing, but a little flesh and bone.Oh by way the Spirit of God living inside of us. No more muscles, just a group of brothers standing there.
Here what I saw when we were melted down. WE really knew very little but what we knew was the Lord and he was the most important focus to us. Since then the fire as fell on several churches and some how barely survived. Others have replenish themselves with a group of young muscled men waiting for the furnace to be turn on. You might pray for them, there going to need it.
Brothers and sisters you don't have pray for the Fire to fall, it will. You don't have to pray for the cross, it will come. What you can do some how, or some way asked the Lord to show you that he is your best friend. A lot of Christians never know that. The fire comes and we get upset with God, the cross comes and we get so mad him we almost become Atheists. We stop communicating with the Lord and we suppress all this anger, all this disappointment. In the name of dying to self, this false humility at it greatest height. Why? Because God our Father touched that one area they nobody had ever touched before. And instead of being bluntly honest with the Lord and telling our best friend what going on, we shroud themselves in a nice self rightous, false humility robe, claiming we dying to self. All we are doing is pressing it down in our soul for it to come out in greater anger later on.
The fire of God fell on Jesus Christ:42 He said, “Father, if it’s your will, take this cup of suffering away from me. However, not my will but your will must be done.” No false humility here, no self rigtheousness. Just a man who is God in the flesh talking in true blunt honesty with his Father. Brothers and Sister we can't handle the fire of God. There only one that handle the fire. It can ony be the Man "Jesus Christ". The NEW MAN. The Christ in us can face this kind of heat. But we are going to have to be honest with ourselves and the Lord. Our hardness and our stubborness is going to be destroyed. Jesus is the the author and finisher of Faith and we are NOT.

He is our BEST FRIEND. We really don't have anyone else. Sorry. Friends are there but they really don't live inside of us. Christ does and will continue on to do so.

Love in him!

That is one of the most awesome things amadis. Thank you.

 

[WomanLovesTX]

The christian world are so sure that they are dwelling in zion,but the truth is no, they are not in ZION THE CITY OF GOD They are deep rooted in the great city called babylon the great. They dont preach the scriptures in truth; but they have gone into counselling,not preaching the word in truth, and nothing but the truth.

For strangers has crept into the teachings,the enemy has crept into the churches; and they dont even know it,they have fallen asleep,they have been robbed of the treasures.
They preach that when you are born again,you are secured a place in heaven,and nothing can change that; that makes them comfortable, slack and therefore complacent. Unfortunately thats not how it works.

we have been ignoring Jesus warnings; in the last days many will come in MY NAME,preaching Christ, deceiving the MANY, spreading through out the earth to make one proselyte,and making two fold the child of hell. We must learn to listen to jesus,he is warning us:The shepherds are hired shepherds,they dont realy care about the sheep,as long as they get their wages,they are happy.

The true shepherd love the sheep,they are his own sheep,he is no hireling; the sheep hear his voice, and the sheep follow him, and love him. The sheep follow him to the green pastures,and dark valleys,because the sheep trust the shepherd.

Nobody is born again untill he is resurected,and given a spirit body; if you are born of the flesh ,you are flesh; if you are born of the spirit you are spirit. dont confuse this with
the renewing of the mind, when you have adopted the spirit of zion you will be a new person,the old person is no more; but you are not born again untill you are resurected,and given a spirit body; now you are spirit(born again). you will be as the angels.

Jesus is born again when he was resurected in a spirit body. This will disapoint many,and will make many angry,but cant change the truth. Dont forget what Jesus said;
He said, ''This gospel will be preached in the world, FOR A WITNESS. Only for a WITNESS,he knows that knowledge wont be present; but it will be in the 1000yr reign.
Knowledge will cover the earth as the sea cover the earth. By this only we know that knowledge has not yet arrived. But for the little flock only.

Jesus is the word,so feed your self with the words in the bible, that is inspired by the holy spirit. Let the holy spirit be your great teacher,for he is the spirit of truth,the comforter. Jesus said in john; The words that i speak to you, they are spirit, and they are life; It is the spirit that quickeneth. (The spirit that resurrects.)

''wakeup''.

AMEN and AMEN and AMEN

 

[AnandaHya]

Here's the thing OnceMore, considering the bible talks wheat and tares and how God allows both to grow together so that the wheat might mature, how do we know that everyone involved in the discussion is truly saved? Could it be that some, those who allow themselves to be overcome by the flesh and belittle others, are nothing more than religious?

and what did Jesus tell us to do to those we think are our enemies?

Bless them and let VENGEANCE be God's. and GOD will justify His righteous.

 

[livingbygrace]

and what did Jesus tell us to do to those we think are our enemies?

Bless them and let VENGEANCE be God's. and GOD will justify His righteous.

Yes you are right, but

As a minister said to me many years ago

I can sort everyone one elses problems out, but not my own!

And

Jesus did reserve some very harsh words for one group of people, while at the same time eating and drinking with those who were considered the worst of sinners by the 'religious elite'

Peter said to Christ

Leave me Lord I am too much of a sinner to be in your prescence

But that didn't concern Jesus, he just told Peter to follow him

The Apostle Paul said he had been the worst of sinners, but he was handpicked by Christ to spread the Gospel of grace primarily to the Gentiles and he wrote nearly half the books of the NT

A tax collector was instantly changed from within when Christ went to his house for a meal

Prostitues responded to the words of Christ and totally changed forsaking their past life

But there was one type of person Christ did not tell to come follow him, and his harshest words were spoken to them

And I can't help but reflect

That they went to all the church/synagpogue meetings. They would have known the then scriptures inside out. They were well educated people who wore the finest of clothes. They tithed down to their last mint dill and cumin and did good deeds, albeit publically
And they would not have got drunk, had affairs, used bad language, or smoked I am sure if smoking had of been invented then
Yet Jesus said, they did not even know his Father

But none of the above excuses me speaking as I did yesterday, even if I was provoked

 

[Red33]

Yes you are right, but

As a minister said to me many years ago

I can sort everyone one elses problems out, but not my own!

And

Jesus did reserve some very harsh words for one group of people, while at the same time eating and drinking with those who were considered the worst of sinners by the 'religious elite'

Peter said to Christ

Leave me Lord I am too much of a sinner to be in your prescence

But that didn't concern Jesus, he just told Peter to follow him

The Apostle Paul said he had been the worst of sinners, but he was handpicked by Christ to spread the Gospel of grace primarily to the Gentiles and he wrote nearly half the books of the NT

A tax collector was instantly changed from within when Christ went to his house for a meal

Prostitues responded to the words of Christ and totally changed forsaking their past life

But there was one type of person Christ did not tell to come follow him, and his harshest words were spoken to them

And I can't help but reflect

That they went to all the church/synagpogue meetings. They would have known the then scriptures inside out. They were well educated people who wore the finest of clothes. They tithed down to their last mint dill and cumin and did good deeds, albeit publically
And they would not have got drunk, had affairs, used bad language, or smoked I am sure if smoking had of been invented then
Yet Jesus said, they did not even know his Father

But none of the above excuses me speaking as I did yesterday, even if I was provoked

Are you taking about me again behind my back? If you look at my moral life compared to the sinning (10) year straw-man that you refer to in many of your posts, which one would you consider to be saved by the sight of your own perception, the man that beats his wife and gets drunk all the time or me who hates sin and any of those things that violate the scriptures? The man that sins does not hate evil as I do and that man would never be able to enter the synagogue unless he repents and I see evidence of that repentance. Does this present a dilemma for you by making you judge according to your own standard of relevant righteousness as it relates to outward sin that can be observed in a man's life?

 

[livingbygrace]

Are you taking about me again behind my back? If you look at my moral life compared to the sinning (10) year straw-man that you refer to in many of your posts, which one would you consider to be saved by the sight of your own perception, the man that beats his wife and gets drunk all the time or me who hates sin and any of those things that violate the scriptures? The man that sins does not hate evil as I do and that man would never be able to enter the synagogue unless he repents and I see evidence of that repentance. Does this present a dilemma for you by making you judge according to your own standard of relevant righteousness as it relates to outward sin that can be observed in a man's life?

This is my last post to you, then I shall put you on ignore, therefore you will be able to attack and malign me as much as you wish and I shall not reply, something that may become a noose around your neck, but I will not be responsible for putting it there

Drunks
Prostitutes
Tax collectors
The worst of sinners
All came to Christ and responded to his message and believed on him, Christ called them and they came.

But the people mentioned in my previous post did not come, and Christ used his harshest words to them?

Why was this?

They didn't get drunk, swear, have affairs, they went to all the church/synagogue meetings, they knew the then scriptures inside out, they tithed down to their last mint dill and cumin, they were well dressed and educated, and they did good deeds, albeit publically.

But there was something that was an obstacle to them that was not to the drunk or prostitute and Christ told us what it was

How can you believe if you accept the praise from one another, yet make no effort to obtain the praise that comes from the only God
John 5:44

They were a proud people, they loved the praise of man more than seeking the praise of God, and in their hearts they were filled with a self righteous attitude, though they put on such a pious and Holy act

And that is the barrier that kept them from knowing God or his son

They had all the outward appearence of Godliness and did all the right things externally, but it coyld not be enough becasue they loved the praise of men more than God

The truest way to know a true Christian is the following highlighted area

He who speaks on his own does so to gain honour for hiomself, but he who seeks the honouer of the one who sent him is a man of truth and there is nothing false about him

John 7:18

 

[Red33]

This is my last post to you, then I shall put you on ignore, therefore you will be able to attack and malign me as much as you wish and I shall not reply, something that may become a noose around your neck, but I will not be responsible for putting it there

Drunks
Prostitutes
Tax collectors
The worst of sinners
All came to Christ and responded to his message and believed on him, Christ called them and they came.

But the people mentioned in my previous post did not come, and Christ used his harshest words to them?

Why was this?

They didn't get drunk, swear, have affairs, they went to all the church/synagogue meetings, they knew the then scriptures inside out, they tithed down to their last mint dill and cumin, they were well dressed and educated, and they did good deeds, albeit publically.

But there was something that was an obstacle to them that was not to the drunk or prostitute and Christ told us what it was

How can you believe if you accept the praise from one another, yet make no effort to obtain the praise that comes from the only God
John 5:44

They were a proud people, they loved the praise of man more than seeking the praise of God, and in their hearts they were filled with a self righteous attitude, though they put on such a pious and Holy act

And that is the barrier that kept them from knowing God or his son

They had all the outward appearence of Godliness and did all the right things externally, but it coyld not be enough becasue they loved the praise of men more than God

The truest way to know a true Christian is the following highlighted area

He who speaks on his own does so to gain honour for hiomself, but he who seeks the honouer of the one who sent him is a man of truth and there is nothing false about him

John 7:18

You think way too much of yourself and you let your insecurity accuse others of those things that you often are guilty of yourself. You do this alot and it only hinders you and not the those you do it to. You can ignore me and others but the problem will still exist because it's in your heart.

 

[Zealot]

Thanks for the great post, in truth!

 

[Zealot]

Fabulous! Thanks!

 

[bmalt]

The christian world are so sure that they are dwelling in zion,but the truth is no, they are not in ZION THE CITY OF GOD They are deep rooted in the great city called babylon the great. They dont preach the scriptures in truth; but they have gone into counselling,not preaching the word in truth, and nothing but the truth.

For strangers has crept into the teachings,the enemy has crept into the churches; and they dont even know it,they have fallen asleep,they have been robbed of the treasures.
They preach that when you are born again,you are secured a place in heaven,and nothing can change that; that makes them comfortable, slack and therefore complacent. Unfortunately thats not how it works.

we have been ignoring Jesus warnings; in the last days many will come in MY NAME,preaching Christ, deceiving the MANY, spreading through out the earth to make one proselyte,and making two fold the child of hell. We must learn to listen to jesus,he is warning us:The shepherds are hired shepherds,they dont realy care about the sheep,as long as they get their wages,they are happy.

The true shepherd love the sheep,they are his own sheep,he is no hireling; the sheep hear his voice, and the sheep follow him, and love him. The sheep follow him to the green pastures,and dark valleys,because the sheep trust the shepherd.

Nobody is born again untill he is resurected,and given a spirit body; if you are born of the flesh ,you are flesh; if you are born of the spirit you are spirit. dont confuse this with
the renewing of the mind, when you have adopted the spirit of zion you will be a new person,the old person is no more; but you are not born again untill you are resurected,and given a spirit body; now you are spirit(born again). you will be as the angels.

Jesus is born again when he was resurected in a spirit body. This will disapoint many,and will make many angry,but cant change the truth. Dont forget what Jesus said;
He said, ''This gospel will be preached in the world, FOR A WITNESS. Only for a WITNESS,he knows that knowledge wont be present; but it will be in the 1000yr reign.
Knowledge will cover the earth as the sea cover the earth. By this only we know that knowledge has not yet arrived. But for the little flock only.

Jesus is the word,so feed your self with the words in the bible, that is inspired by the holy spirit. Let the holy spirit be your great teacher,for he is the spirit of truth,the comforter. Jesus said in john; The words that i speak to you, they are spirit, and they are life; It is the spirit that quickeneth. (The spirit that resurrects.)

''wakeup''.

It is true that complacency and tradition have crept into most Christian churches over the years. Christians know that Christianity is not what it used to be...what did it use to be? If we don't have a pattern to go by then we can't get to where we need to be. I believe the first four chapters of the book of Acts is the pattern we need to follow. This wasn't a select few who "had the power", this was men who were properly taught Christianity and they were sharing the knowledge with everyone else. Being born again is having the knowledge to live in perfect health, the knowledge that you are protected and won't die prematurely and the knowledge that we ARE blessed and will be provided for.