Heb 3v17

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Darvid

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In the bible study the old king james version says carcasses,but i feel the nkjv says it better as corpses as carcasses to me refers to animals and i tjink it shows more respect to a human body made by God.im not a only kjv person but my church is.what do you think?as i was going to debate it at the end of the study but you dont get a change to dissagree with the speaker and i dont think its right.one person voicing.a opinion and thinking everyone had to accept this word.
 
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In the bible study the old king james version says carcasses,but i feel the nkjv says it better as corpses as carcasses to me refers to animals and i tjink it shows more respect to a human body made by God.im not a only kjv person but my church is.what do you think?as i was going to debate it at the end of the study but you dont get a change to dissagree with the speaker and i dont think its right.one person voicing.a opinion and thinking everyone had to accept this word.
Take my advice, friend, and find a new house of worship. In the meantime don’t get hung up on semantics.
 

JaumeJ

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In the bible study the old king james version says carcasses,but i feel the nkjv says it better as corpses as carcasses to me refers to animals and i tjink it shows more respect to a human body made by God.im not a only kjv person but my church is.what do you think?as i was going to debate it at the end of the study but you dont get a change to dissagree with the speaker and i dont think its right.one person voicing.a opinion and thinking everyone had to accept this word.
Perhaps the meaning of carcass has evolved from the time of the translation. Perhaps the word in the original language is to blame. I do know people who came together to construct the KJV were most educated in English, ergo the word must not have been so offensive at the time as it seems to be for some now.
Myself, I do not mind what is bound for the fire next time to be referred to as a carcass since our Father finds us in no matter what condition we become, rotted to dust or burned to ashes.

You know what the authors are saying. Much of the language is almost humorous to peple today, but the ones given to write it were not ignorant.
 

Blik

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I have been reading about what men like Clement and Origen had to say about being a Christian, telling how the people in the first Christian churches thought. They held fast to Christ, but weren't much for dogma. Those people would have let the ones who argued about trifles argue away if they wanted to but wouldn't pay them much attention.
 

John146

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Take my advice, friend, and find a new house of worship. In the meantime don’t get hung up on semantics.
Please get hung up on words. Words, plural, are important to God. One wrong word can change a doctrine.
 

John146

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In the bible study the old king james version says carcasses,but i feel the nkjv says it better as corpses as carcasses to me refers to animals and i tjink it shows more respect to a human body made by God.im not a only kjv person but my church is.what do you think?as i was going to debate it at the end of the study but you dont get a change to dissagree with the speaker and i dont think its right.one person voicing.a opinion and thinking everyone had to accept this word.
Carcass is correct. It doesn't matter what you or I think when it comes to the word of truth.
 
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Please get hung up on words. Words, plural, are important to God. One wrong word can change a doctrine.
Is Jesus Christ your Lord & Savior? I know the answer is yes therefore I stand by my words; don’t get hung up on semantics.
 

John146

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Is Jesus Christ your Lord & Savior? I know the answer is yes therefore I stand by my words; don’t get hung up on semantics.
Well, God does. Every word is important to God. The words of the Lord are pure words. Every word is important to God, so much so, He commanded us not to add to or take away from His words.
 
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In the bible study the old king james version says carcasses,but i feel the nkjv says it better as corpses as carcasses to me refers to animals and i tjink it shows more respect to a human body made by God.im not a only kjv person but my church is.what do you think?as i was going to debate it at the end of the study but you dont get a change to dissagree with the speaker and i dont think its right.one person voicing.a opinion and thinking everyone had to accept this word.
sounds more like you all had a lecture ;)

if you like to discuss, and that's a good thing, then maybe find a place where you can do that

I am glad you are not getting your undies in a knot over the KJ Bible.
 
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In the bible study the old king james version says carcasses,but i feel the nkjv says it better as corpses as carcasses to me refers to animals and i tjink it shows more respect to a human body made by God.im not a only kjv person but my church is.what do you think?as i was going to debate it at the end of the study but you dont get a change to dissagree with the speaker and i dont think its right.one person voicing.a opinion and thinking everyone had to accept this word.
Perhaps scripture meant to demean them. Those who fell in the wilderness tested the Lord so sorely that at Kadesh-Barnea the Lord wanted to wipe them out. After seeing all the miracles of Egypt, those at the Red Sea, and those in the wilderness, they still declared God unable to fight their battle for the Good Land (Numbers 14).

But perhaps the word itself is there to enlighten us. The root of the Greek word means "to lop parts of the body off". It was a terrible disgrace that after all the things that God did for them, they "got lopped from the main body of Israelites" who did enter the Good Land, and got "lopped from their birthright" as given in Covenant to Abraham. They despised God, so He in turn despises them.
 
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Well, God does. Every word is important to God. The words of the Lord are pure words. Every word is important to God, so much so, He commanded us not to add to or take away from His words.
I’m not suggesting to add or take away from His Word. The Holy Spirit will always guide us correctly so we need not fret.
 

Nehemiah6

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In the bible study the old king james version says carcasses,but i feel the nkjv says it better as corpses as carcasses to me refers to animals and i tjink it shows more respect to a human body made by God
Is this something to be even concerned about? The use of "carcass" indicates the worthlessness of those who rebelled against God, and had an "evil heart of unbelief" in departing from the living God.

Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God. (v 12)
 

John146

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I’m not suggesting to add or take away from His Word. The Holy Spirit will always guide us correctly so we need not fret.
So, even when you have the wrong words in your Bible the Holy Spirit will correct it for you?
 

Blik

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I’m not suggesting to add or take away from His Word. The Holy Spirit will always guide us correctly so we need not fret.
The Holy Spirit guides us in how we relate to other Christians when we disagree, but it does not solve the disagreement. To understand the words the Lord uses in His word it takes learning what those words meant in the original language at the time it was written and that information is got given by the Holy Spirit.
 
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What Bible do you use? If the KJV then none.;)
You didn’t answer my question so I’ll ask a different one that you can answer; what words are wrong in specific translations?
 
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The Holy Spirit guides us in how we relate to other Christians when we disagree, but it does not solve the disagreement. To understand the words the Lord uses in His word it takes learning what those words meant in the original language at the time it was written and that information is got given by the Holy Spirit.
Says you ~ incorrectly.
 

John146

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You didn’t answer my question so I’ll ask a different one that you can answer; what words are wrong in specific translations?
it depends on the translation. They all use so many different words. I guess, whatever words are different than what is given in the KJV, God's perfectly completed preserved word of truth.
 
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Not another thread devolving into a "worship the King Jimmy" translation/transliteration over the God of the version is it?