Mosaic Law

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TheIndianGirl

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Did God provide Mosaic Law to Moses, or did Moses come up with law? Meaning, did God specifically tell Moses to write this law, as He did with the Ten Commandments? Based on my understanding, people presented their issues to Moses, and Moses and a few other elders came up with the law. To put it in perspective, it would be like saying Supreme Court law is from God.

Please present support from the Bible.
 

JaumeJ

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One of the more important laws which is yet to be obeyed is never to add or take away from the Word of God.

I believe that should respond totally to your postsed question.
 

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From what I read, God gave to Moses the Mosaic Laws which included the 10 Commandments. Apparently, he gave these Laws to Moses for the Jews for four reasons:

1) for their own good
2) to reveal himself to them
3) to set them apart to reveal himself to others
4) to reveal humanity's need for a Savior

(other reasons apply as well)

Check Deuteronomy 10:13 as one example of Biblical support

You can do a search "did God give the Jews the Mosaic Law" and find all the information needed to see that God did give the Law to the Jews for various reasons.

Why did God give the Mosaic Law? What is the purpose of ...


I have not spent much time studying the Mosaic Law because I do not believe it applies to me (except for the 10 Commandments), but a short search shows numerous Articles about this subject. Take the time to do some research, and I believe you will be satisfied with the revelation that God gave the Mosaic Laws to Moses for the Jews.
 

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Did God provide Mosaic Law to Moses, or did Moses come up with law? Meaning, did God specifically tell Moses to write this law, as He did with the Ten Commandments? Based on my understanding, people presented their issues to Moses, and Moses and a few other elders came up with the law. To put it in perspective, it would be like saying Supreme Court law is from God.

Please present support from the Bible.
The 10 commandments, the original ones were carved out of stone with the very finger of God. The law, the Pentateuch, the 5 books were delivered by God to Moses. Moses, and those God said for him to delegate authority to, were to judge between others based on that "Law". The law was delivered by God and God gave it to men to apply. If not ... then there is no right and wrong other than what any individual deems correct for himself in the moment. No standard but men's opinions renders raping, pillaging and murdering just as good or evil as sharing your food with the hungry. We are all entitled to our own beliefs and opinions. And apart from a standard from God Himself, all standards any man comes up with are all equal.
 
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Did God provide Mosaic Law to Moses, or did Moses come up with law? Meaning, did God specifically tell Moses to write this law, as He did with the Ten Commandments? Based on my understanding, people presented their issues to Moses, and Moses and a few other elders came up with the law. To put it in perspective, it would be like saying Supreme Court law is from God.

Please present support from the Bible.
Deuteronomy 30:10 should settle it. "If thou shalt hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to keep his commandments and his statutes which are written in this book of the law, and if thou turn unto the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul."

There are about 620 laws recorded by Deuteronomy 31:24 when Mose "finished" writing the Book of the Laws and put it in the Ark of the Covenant "as a witness against Israel". The Law is "God's Law", given by the mediation of angels, to Moses to write, and is the Law of God (Rom.7:22), the Law is spiritual (Rom.7:14), and the Law is good (Rom.7:16). Added to this, the Law
  1. is the contents of the Covenant of Sinai (Ex.24:7)
  2. is ONLY given to Israel (Lev.26:46)
  3. will not pass for Israel until it be fulfilled by them (Matt.5:18)
  4. is fulfilled by Jesus but not Israel (Matt.5:17)
  5. is the content of the New Covenant (Jer.31:31-33)
  6. is nailed to the cross and abolished for the New Man (Eph.2:15; Col.2:14)
The Captains, Elders, Levites and finally Moses were there to adjudicate complicated matters in Israel which were not covered by direct speaking of the Law. An example might be the case of Ruth. Moabites are not allowed into the congregation of Israel until the tenth generation, that is, forever (Deut.23:3). On what basis is she allowed to become the wife of Boaz? This is complicated. She is part of the lineage of Christ, but a Moabitess? How so?
 

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All law can be summed up with love. Every one of the ten commandments gives a product of love, they are universal.

In the old testament the emphasis was on the physical ways to obey the law of love, but after God gave the new covenant the emphasis was on the physical being the result of the spirit of love.

It was possible to be obedient to the lord by physical obedience to the letter of the law, but that was never actual obedience. When we are obedient to the Lord by loving, we obey the letter of the law as a natural result.
 

gb9

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the letter kills, the Sprit gives life
 

Blik

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the letter kills, the Sprit gives life
But following the spirit of the law results in following the letter of the law. The letter only kills if it lacks love.
 
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Did God provide Mosaic Law to Moses

The Mosaic Law is another term for the Torah or the first five books of the bible. And since every word in the bible is the Word of God, it is written by God through His servants who write it down on paper. Simple as that.


did God specifically tell Moses to write this law, as He did with the Ten Commandments?

I think the real question you are asking is, "I understand that God told Moses to write the Ten Commandments on stone tablets, but what about the sacrificial, sundry, and judicial rules as evidenced by Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy; were these rules God-inspired or were they merely dreamed up by Moses?"

To answer that question you have to look at the entire context of those five books. Especially when it came to the moral law of the Ten Commandments, which we are held to account today, God made himself known to Moses.

He also made himself known throughout the entire process of writing the sundry, sacrificial, and judicial laws. For example, the book of Leviticus opens like this:

Then the Lord called to Moses and spoke to him from the Meeting Tent: “Speak to the Israelites and tell them, ------

From then on, the entire book of Leviticus is written from the viewpoint of God as evidenced by quotations throughout:

"If his offering is a burnt offering...

“‘Now if his offering is a peace-offering sacrifice...

Just to make sure there is no mistake that God is directing the writing, Moses reestablishes the narrative viewpoint, especially when the main point modulates. He does this by telling the reader,

"Then the Lord spoke to Moses"

Keep in mind also that God manifests himself in various ways to the many authors that were privileged enough to be His chosen messengers. Just like for us today, God does not have to show up in a burning bush for us to be inspired to tell others of His grace and majesty.

As a final point, we call it the Mosaic Law out of affection for Moses, not because God is in any way subservient.

Hope this helps. :)
 

JaumeJ

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But following the spirit of the law results in following the letter of the law. The letter only kills if it lacks love.
So dtrue. It is important to keep in mind also what our Lord teaches on this theme. A law is not valid if it does not contain faith, mercy and justice.
 

Jackson123

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Did God provide Mosaic Law to Moses, or did Moses come up with law? Meaning, did God specifically tell Moses to write this law, as He did with the Ten Commandments? Based on my understanding, people presented their issues to Moses, and Moses and a few other elders came up with the law. To put it in perspective, it would be like saying Supreme Court law is from God.

Please present support from the Bible.
To my knowledge mosaic law are From God
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Leviticus 1
1 The Lord called to Moses and spoke to him from the tent of meeting. He said, 2 “Speak to the Israelites and say to them: ‘When anyone among you brings an offering to the Lord, bring as your offering an animal from either the herd or the flock.
 

Jackson123

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So dtrue. It is important to keep in mind also what our Lord teaches on this theme. A law is not valid if it does not contain faith, mercy and justice.
Jesus say all the theme of the law is love

Matt 22

37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
38 This is the first and great commandment.
39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.


On those 2 command hang on all law
 

JaumeJ

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When Jesus taught the three principles must be applied to the laws, He is underscoring the necessity of Love, which are two of the laws, others making up love are contained therein.
 

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Did God provide Mosaic Law to Moses, or did Moses come up with law?
Moses could not have come up with the Law on his own, since (a) he was a fugitive from Egypt and (2) he was not even willing to go to Pharaoh at the beginning. The Law of Moses is therefore the Law of God given through Moses to Israel. And all you have to do is go through from Exodus to Deuteronomy and see that God gave every law to Moses.

And the LORD said unto Moses, Lo, I come unto thee in a thick cloud, that the people may hear when I speak with thee, and believe thee for ever. And Moses told the words of the people unto the LORD. (Exodus 19:9)
 

Jackson123

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When Jesus taught the three principles must be applied to the laws, He is underscoring the necessity of Love, which are two of the laws, others making up love are contained therein.
1 cor 13
6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth. 7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.

Kjv
6 Rejoiceth not in iniquity, but rejoiceth in the truth;

It seem love is equal justice.

Don't like iniquity or iniquity must be punish or justice
 

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Did God provide Mosaic Law to Moses, or did Moses come up with law? Meaning, did God specifically tell Moses to write this law, as He did with the Ten Commandments? Based on my understanding, people presented their issues to Moses, and Moses and a few other elders came up with the law. To put it in perspective, it would be like saying Supreme Court law is from God.

Please present support from the Bible.
Heb 2v2
Acts 7v53
Tells us the law came through angels,
 

gb9

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Heb 2v2
Acts 7v53
Tells us the law came through angels,
^ and was given to Moses on Sinai for the nation of Israel to live by on the way to and when they got to cannan .

notice how many " when you get to the land you are to posses.. they are in God"s instruction to Moses.
 
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The Captains, Elders, Levites and finally Moses were there to adjudicate complicated matters in Israel which were not covered by direct speaking of the Law. An example might be the case of Ruth. Moabites are not allowed into the congregation of Israel until the tenth generation, that is, forever (Deut.23:3). On what basis is she allowed to become the wife of Boaz? This is complicated. She is part of the lineage of Christ, but a Moabitess? How so?
There are several "exception clauses" in the Word. To sum it up, Ruth swore an oath to her MIL Naomi, your God will be my God, your people my people. The judgement was based on spiritual condition and not ethnicity. Boaz married a dedicated follower of YHWH, not a pagan idolater.
 
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There are several "exception clauses" in the Word. To sum it up, Ruth swore an oath to her MIL Naomi, your God will be my God, your people my people. The judgement was based on spiritual condition and not ethnicity. Boaz married a dedicated follower of YHWH, not a pagan idolater.
Quite ... but I wish you had posted the "exception clauses" for the Moabite. They might have used them in Nehemiah's time (Neh.13:1)
 
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Quite ... but I wish you had posted the "exception clauses" for the Moabite. They might have used them in Nehemiah's time (Neh.13:1)
Ruth completely surrendered to the living God, unlike in Nehemiah's day he says half the children of the mixed marriages could only speak their pagan language. It seems reasonable to say they were not being taught from scripture.

Here are some of those "exceptions".

Isiah 58:1Thus saith the LORD, Keep ye judgment, and do justice: for my salvation is near to come, and my righteousness to be revealed.
2Blessed is the man that doeth this, and the son of man that layeth hold on it; that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and keepeth his hand from doing any evil.
3Neither let the son of the stranger, that hath joined himself to the LORD, speak, saying, The LORD hath utterly separated me from his people: neither let the eunuch say, Behold, I am a dry tree.
4For thus saith the LORD unto the eunuchs that keep my sabbaths, and choose the things that please me, and take hold of my covenant;
5Even unto them will I give in mine house and within my walls a place and a name better than of sons and of daughters: I will give them an everlasting name, that shall not be cut off.
6Also the sons of the stranger, that join themselves to the LORD, to serve him, and to love the name of the LORD, to be his servants, every one that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and taketh hold of my covenant;
7Even them will I bring to my holy mountain, and make them joyful in my house of prayer: their burnt offerings and their sacrifices shall be accepted upon mine altar; for mine house shall be called an house of prayer for all people.
8The Lord GOD which gathereth the outcasts of Israel saith, Yet will I gather others to him, beside those that are gathered unto him.