Ginsberg went home

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Truth7t7

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We were created male and female, there is no other, the adversary has attempted to pervert the created order ever since the fall. There are those who have been delivered, restored and healed from this perversion of the created order.
Several I know who went home had this experience, they looked up, about long enough to hear the words "come up here", then went unconscious, then the body shut down over a period of time.
I have heard it taught this time is a time of resolving things that need resolved before beginning eternity, forgiving others, forgiving oneself, etc.
We agree!

The adversary (The Liberal Democrats) following the evil kingdom of darkness, they created LGBTQIAXZO, any claimed gender goes with them.

Of course God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve
 

Truth7t7

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If the Democrats had controlled the Senate on Obama's way out, his appointment would have passed. Look at the hypocrisy:

Nice, that made my day!

As the leftist media is running the hypocrisy cry's against the Republican's in their proceedings.
 

shittim

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We hear reports of Ruth's "last words", but not of what transpired after those "last words", our conversations with our Creator are between our heart and Him, not vocal "words", and we don't know, nor should we know, what that communication was.
We all pretty much know what the Bible says and there is the tendency to cherry pick a verse or two and expound when we are supposed to stay focused on him with every thought, word and deed.

"Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions. Proverbs 18:2 "
 
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Susanna

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Well, let’s not focus on RBG or whoever’s wrong or not. We should stay focused on the Lord. I don’t know anything about RBG’s relationship with the Lord, and I don’t think anybody else here does either.

None of us are supposed to cast judgement her way even if some of the posts here indicate that she is, to put it mildly, disliked fiercely by some of the good members contributing in this thread.
 
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kaylagrl

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You really need to read what I wrote again. I repented. To God/which to me is Jesus. What are you shocked about? So, if you were born in Africa and no one told you about Jesus, would you go to Hell.
No, I wasn't talking about you. I'm not questioning your relationship with God. But I do think you have a misunderstanding of salvation, according to what you are saying. Once again, let me answer with the Word, not my opinion, the Bible says no one will be without excuse. Unless we trust Christ and have a personal relationship with Him we will not inherit heaven. Without the blood applied to our sins, we will die in our sins. I have loved ones that are not saved. I do not gleefully say anyone is going to hell. God wishes that all would come to him. But unless you come through the blood of Christ, you will not inherit heaven. That is what the Word of God says. That is why it is so imperative that we reach everyone we can with the Gospel. Everyone is called to be a witness and to evangelize.
 

SoulWeaver

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The Bible says no one will be without excuse. No one will be able to say to God, "I didn't hear", or "I wasn't born at the right time or place". I heard of a missionary who went to a village unreached by outside influence. He went to share the Gospel with the "heathens". When he got there he was welcomed by the head of the tribe who said "We have been having dreams of a man named Jesus. We knew someone was going to be sent to tell us about him". God want every single person to be saved and He has and will give everyone the opportunity to come to know Him. If not, He is a liar and His Word is untrue.






Christos, means Christ Bearer, anointed. That is where the name comes from. You must be a follower of Christ, therefore Christian. You cannot be a Muslim following allah. You cannot follow buddah. You must follow Christ to go to heaven. The only way, no other name. That is why we refer to Christianity. Now, as far as denomination, no, makes no difference. That is a man made ideal. In ministry we traveled in all denominations and went anywhere they allowed us to preach the Gospel of salvation. If we want people to go to heaven we must sound a clear call, Jesus the Christ is the only way.






If you live directly against the Word, you will not inherit heaven. You cannot evangelize the world if you cannot tell them they are lost and in sin. Now, as I mentioned in other posts, someone may have a deathbed confession and may have made it to heaven. Yes, that may happen. But very few people ever get that chance. So barring the fact that someone witnessed to Ms. Ginsburg and she made that deathbed confession, which is highly unlikely, then no, she did not inherit heaven. You cannot look at a life lived totally against God and then try to make excuses that they made it to heaven because they were a good person or likeable. Jesus is the only Way, and it's very serious that we make that distinction and make that clear
So the heathens from your story were not saved before they officially became "Christians"? That would make no sense. You're just proving my point with that, if you didn't notice. I know of a similar story with a Buddhist. The Buddhist was given the New Testament by a friend and wept upon reading, saying "I know Him" and he was shocked. Because he didn't even know Jesus as in incarnation of Jesus. Which is the most important part. Some of you guys want to put Jesus into a box, but Jesus is a lot bigger than Christianity. People need to get their religious glasses off and realize that. And He did come in flesh to a very local tribe to whom a promise was made, but that's not all Jesus has ever done. Before Abraham, there was I AM. The man knew Jesus through his spiritual life - the Spirit was communing with him. So when given the account of Jesus, he easily recognized the same Spirit.
 
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We agree!

The adversary (The Liberal Democrats) following the evil kingdom of darkness, they created LGBTQIAXZO, any claimed gender goes with them.

Matthew: NIV:

43 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor[i] and hate your enemy.’ 44 But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45 that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. 46 If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? 47 And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? 48 Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.
 
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So the heathens from your story were not saved before they officially became "Christians"? That would make no sense. You're just proving my point with that, if you didn't notice. I know of a similar story with a Buddhist.

The Buddhist was given the New Testament by a friend and wept upon reading, saying "I know Him" and he was shocked. Because he didn't even know Jesus as in incarnation of Jesus. Which is the most important part. Some of you guys want to put Jesus into a box, but Jesus is a lot bigger than Christianity. People need to get their religious glasses off and realize that. And He did come in flesh to a very local tribe to whom a promise was made, but that's not all Jesus has ever done. Before Abraham, there was I AM. The man knew Jesus through his spiritual life - the Spirit was communing with him. So when given the account of Jesus, he easily recognized the same Spirit.


This is EXACTLY what I believe! Jesus IS huge and amazing. I read the Sermon on the Mount all the time and I get tears in my eyes. It is soo beautiful. You cannot read that and still deny that jesus is the Son of God.
Thank you so much!!!
 

shittim

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Kayla-"says no one will be without excuse "
This seems an unhandy way to say this-
New King James Version
For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse,

I am not sure it conveys the meaning you intend.
best wishes
 

shittim

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This fits with some of the prophetic words I have heard from those I have found reliable, that he will appoint 2 and one will be a woman.
 
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Jesus Christ himself acknowledged there were humans that had a father, (The Devil) what seed did they carry?

It's apparent not every person has a seed of truth, not every person hears God's words of truth :)

John 8:42-47KJV
42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.
43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.
44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.
46 Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me?
47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.
The Bible says that God designed babies in the womb, so I think there is at least some good in every person and that they can get back to God.
 

shittim

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Created in the image of the Trinity, "let us make man in our own image", born in sin after the fall.
Justified, or made right when we accept the perfect atoning work of Christ on the cross, from which all authority was given to Him.
 

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President Trump is nominating the Justice in a few days, Mitch Mcconnell is going to have a Super Court Justice confirmed in (God Speed) Biden, Harris, or the democrats are going to just cry like baby's, with a little sit and watch (y)
I am a little concerned because at least 3 Republican senators are reluctant to proceed. The thing is, Trump's pick does not necessarily have to be confirmed by Nov 3 but rather by Dec 31. Even if Trump loses (unlikely) he is still the president until Jan 20 @ 12 noon. Even if the Republicans lose the Senate (unlikely) the new crop does not get sworn in until Jan 1, 2021. As long as the pick is confirmed by Dec 31 the outcome of the general election, either way, will not impact the confirmation process. Godspeed on the president's choice to be confirmed.
 

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Just heard Ruth Ginsberg has gone home, she was hanging on in hope the President God raised up would not select her successor, can't thwart God's plan.
Thank you Lord! Now, several prophetic speakers I know say He will select two, looks like after he is reelected for the next one.
Blessings
I've not paid attention to the high court in America for some time but I would have thought she'd have passed many a year before now.
Odd that she would be reported to hang on to life for that reason. A successor to a court justice can only be chosen at death or what rarely happens, retirement from the bench.

Mein herzliches Beileid.
 

shittim

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it is true, apparently He who numbers our days had a better plan, He always does.
 
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Susanna

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Looks like folks are sure that the death of Justice Ginsberg will make sure that the SCOTUS will soon have six conservative justices.

But what if this makes the Democrats starts rallying behind their candidate in big numbers?
 

shittim

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Good to see you Susanna, always appreciate reading your posts.
I believe and have seen a lot of prophetic words that this President God raised up will be at least a two term President, we must however give ourselves to fasting and prayer for this election, and that may have a bearing on how well it goes for each of us and for the nation.
 
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kaylagrl

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So the heathens from your story were not saved before they officially became "Christians"? That would make no sense. You're just proving my point with that, if you didn't notice. I know of a similar story with a Buddhist. The Buddhist was given the New Testament by a friend and wept upon reading, saying "I know Him" and he was shocked. Because he didn't even know Jesus as in incarnation of Jesus. Which is the most important part. Some of you guys want to put Jesus into a box, but Jesus is a lot bigger than Christianity. People need to get their religious glasses off and realize that. And He did come in flesh to a very local tribe to whom a promise was made, but that's not all Jesus has ever done. Before Abraham, there was I AM. The man knew Jesus through his spiritual life - the Spirit was communing with him. So when given the account of Jesus, he easily recognized the same Spirit.

So you don't believe that the Holy Spirit draws a person to Christ and then they become saved. You believe people can be saved without knowing Jesus as their personal Savior. The Holy Spirits draws and convicts of sin. Know of Jesus and knowing Jesus are two different things. And I don't know why people are getting hung up on the word Christianity. I'm honestly perplexed.
 
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kaylagrl

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Looks like folks are sure that the death of Justice Ginsberg will make sure that the SCOTUS will soon have six conservative justices.

But what if this makes the Democrats starts rallying behind their candidate in big numbers?
I don't know if you believe in prophesy in our current times. But if you do people are saying "brace yourselves" that there is going to be a shaking. Whatever side you come down on in this discussion, it's certain, we are being shaken like never before in this country.