Is Acts 2.38 the plan of salvation ?

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throughfaith said:
So Romans 10.9,10 and 1 cor 15 .1-4 is not the Gospel ?
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you can read into it all you would like, but if you see what I said that Acts 2:38

"Jesus said to repent Peter said to and so did Paul."

Rome 10:9-10

is not the only thing said in that chapter nor did i suggest it is not valued or not the gospel.

Rome 10: 3 says :
For they being ignorant of God’s righteousness, and seeking to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted to the righteousness of God.
Rome10:4 says:
For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes.

Ver 13 says those who call on the name of the Lord will be saved. the earlier verses establish that those who are calling on the Lord have done so in faith

they have repented, the have Submitted ( surrendered), and they have received.
 
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throughfaith said:
What do you mean by ' repent ' ? and what do you mean by ' surrenders their life ' ?
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did anyone just wake up today and say " I will follow Jesus without seeing their needs for HIM? IF Jesus said to repent , Peter said to repent, Paul said to repent. The Old Testament tell us to repent, the New Testament tell us to repent. we are to repent.


And Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ for salvation. Why is that so controversial ?

2cor 7:9
2tim 2:25
Heb 6:1
2pet 3:9



it is not just repenting all things: it is faith, obedience, repenting, surrendering to Christ it receiving of the Holy Spirit all the working of Grace trigged by the preaching of the word of God, from the truth of the Death burial , and resurrection of Jesus Christ and His Cross .
 
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CS1 said:
And Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ for salvation. Why is that so controversial ?
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Gospel truth is always controversial to those who hate the truth, and prefer man-made doctrines (which ultimately come from Satan).

There should be absolutely no controversy about Gospel truth among genuine Christians. But we see arguments about the fundamentals daily.
 
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CS1 said:
did anyone just wake up today and say " I will follow Jesus without seeing their needs for HIM? IF Jesus said to repent , Peter said to repent, Paul said to repent. The Old Testament tell us to repent, the New Testament tell us to repent. we are to repent.


And Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ for salvation. Why is that so controversial ?

2cor 7:9
2tim 2:25
Heb 6:1
2pet 3:9



it is not just repenting all things: it is faith, obedience, repenting, surrendering to Christ it receiving of the Holy Spirit all the working of Grace trigged by the preaching of the word of God, from the truth of the Death burial , and resurrection of Jesus Christ and His Cross .
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My point is that God repents numerous times ,so we have to define what we mean . For some ' repent ' means ' turn from sins ' or ' stop sinning ' which would be false.
 
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throughfaith said:
There is no mention of believing , repentance, babtism , surrendering all , making Jesus Lord of your pocket book there with the tax collector ? But it is not about salvation after the cross either .
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We are not saved unless we become broken like the tax collector, until then you will Never fully Repent and come to Christ
 
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eternally-gratefull

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throughfaith said:
My point is that God repents numerous times ,so we have to define what we mean . For some ' repent ' means ' turn from sins ' or ' stop sinning ' which would be false.
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Amen there are differing views of what repent means
 
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throughfaith said:
Do you mean ' fully changing your mind ? Believing?
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I am talking about true biblical repentance

Can one have biblical faith without biblical repentance?
 
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eternally-gratefull

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throughfaith said:
That sentence is loaded . ' biblical faith ? biblical repentence?
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No it’s no loaded and it worries me you can not answer that question

Biblical means according to the word not according to someone view
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
No it’s no loaded and it worries me you can not answer that question

Biblical means according to the word not according to someone view
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And what is biblical faith look like

How about unbiblical faith, what is look like
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
No it’s no loaded and it worries me you can not answer that question

Biblical means according to the word not according to someone view
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I've already said what the Gospel is and how someone can be saved . As believers we should have this message of reconciliation down . Romans 10.9,10 . Romans 1.16 . 1 cor 15.1-4
eph 1.13-14 . Notice no ' repentance '
 
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eternally-gratefull

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throughfaith said:
I've already said what the Gospel is and how someone can be saved . As believers we should have this message of reconciliation down . Romans 10.9,10 . Romans 1.16 . 1 cor 15.1-4
eph 1.13-14 . Notice no ' repentance '
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If you think you can have biblical faith Without true biblical repentance Your wrong

you will never come to faith Apart from changing you view of yourself and god
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
If you think you can have biblical faith Without true biblical repentance Your wrong

you will never come to faith Apart from changing you view of yourself and god
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//you will never come to faith Apart from changing you view of yourself and god// I agree . Thats why we have to ' persuade men with the Gospel . Reasoning with them as Paul did . From the scriptures. Rom 1.16 . 1cor 15 ,1-4 . Romans 10 .9,10 ect
 
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eternally-gratefull

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throughfaith said:
//you will never come to faith Apart from changing you view of yourself and god// I agree . Thats why we have to ' persuade men with the Gospel . Reasoning with them as Paul did . From the scriptures. Rom 1.16 . 1cor 15 ,1-4 . Romans 10 .9,10 ect
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Then you agree, we have to repent
 
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