You are very welcome, Absolutely One woman I knew/know in NA was (many years ago) reading and gushing about Emmet's Sermon on the Mount book, which made me slightly curious, but that was long before my conversion, and I generally avoided anything that seemed to have ties to the Bible Interesting for me following my conversion was to find out that she was not Christian, because she always carried a very strong message of recovery, and often talked about God in ways that were inspiring and inoffensive to non-believers. 12 step groups have autonomy up to a point as long as they are not violating the time-honored traditions; some even have smudge ceremonies as part of their proceedings. So outside materials and practices are allowed by some, but they would probably be the minority. It is the guidance, support, inspiration, and direction people find once they seriously start seeking solutions to their problems that keep people coming back to recovery rooms despite any misgivings they may have about God.
Seeking after God's will in our lives is central to the 12 steps, which many find offense in, being enemies of God, but this aversion of the natural man is often overcome due to the desperation alcoholics and addicts find (and anyone else suffering as a result of whatever dilemma they find themselves in when they seek help from any number of the hundreds of off-shoot programs that have borrowed and adapted the12 steps from AA) once they hit bottom. God is and always has been the solution, but, LOL, there are those too who have removed the solution from the solution offered. They call themselves rational
That is helpful slso.
Because the guy promoting the book is a recovered opiod/alcoholic.
I think that book is a big time marker and maybe something of an idol.
I know I offended him yesterday when I sent him info on the man Emmet and his ties to false doctrine.
I think I put him at a cross road that he is not ready to embrace. His name is Mike and he evangelize everywhere he goes....but almost zero results.
His pastor is baptist and has a radio program.
Very anti Holy Spirit.
Mike sees the man as "the final authority"
Our "teacher" is president of the Baptist association here in our area. He is seeking the baptism in the Holy Spirit.
(But not very intensely)
He just knows there has to be more out there.
It completely blows their mind when I tell them stories and expound on Gods word under the unction.
I wish I could take a picture of their faces. Lol.
But they are so grounded in their small picture religion has restrained them and dwarfed their Spirit man.
Anyway I do not want to crush their spirits. I am there as a "provoker" to provoke them higher and into a walk of intimacy. (As well as myself needing more).
I get very little from the deal.
I just want more for them.
That is why I attend.
If it were not for my burden for them I would quit today.
Please pray for mike. I am letting him stew in the short sentences I spoke yesterday.
His icon has taken a bit of a fall. (Emmet).
But now I see why my Spirit was turning somersaults lol.
Now it is Mike that has me concerned.