God HATES Divorce!!!

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Tatz

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God is good, gracious, merciful, ever-loving, forgiving, understanding, Glory to Him!! Marriage, one of the mysteries i will seek to understand when i get to heaven. Two individuals vow to live together, to have and to hold, from that day forward, for better, for worse, for richer, for poorer, in sickness and in health, until death do them part. Not till divorce do us part, till death. And that is a command from God, that once one is married, only death can separate that person from His/Her spouse.

God knew that there will be misunderstandings, people are gonna brush shoulders, they are gonna hurt each other real bad...but He provided a way out...there is FORGIVENESS. As christians we preach forgiveness, much of this has been given to us, so we also must reach out and forgive.

We can do ALL things through Christ who strengthens us, even keeping marriages even when things are really bad.

Nothing is too hard for god to handle. We should learn to take everything to Him. He can handle it. He can give you the WISDOM to handle all situations...so why divorce? While you were getting married you vowed to saty put till death do you part?

God Bless You!!
 
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kiwiEJ

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Yes I agree that God may hate divorce and adultery but may I also point out Ramon, that God HATES the breakdown of any relationship whatever the circumstances may be, He also HATES abusive relationships where a woman is beaten senseless by her husband, but she is too frightened to speak up in front of her "freinds" at church and keeps smiling and puting on a brave face only to go back to him only to be beaten and abused again and again because divorce is "wrong" within the church, God also HATES relationships where a man feels inferior as he is manipulated by his wife (it does happen), and God HATES it when children see their parents in a relationship where there is no love, (what are they teaching their children about healthy relationships?)

To divorce somebody for being unfaithful is one thing, but divorce in itself is a lifesaver for some people, some relationships are just not meant to be, don't be so quick to judge,

God himself doesn't prepose to judge a man until he is dead, so why should you?
 
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kiwi_OT

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kiwiEJ said:
Yes I agree that God may hate divorce and adultery but may I also point out Ramon, that God HATES the breakdown of any relationship whatever the circumstances may be, He also HATES abusive relationships where a woman is beaten senseless by her husband, but she is too frightened to speak up in front of her "freinds" at church and keeps smiling and puting on a brave face only to go back to him only to be beaten and abused again and again because divorce is "wrong" within the church, God also HATES relationships where a man feels inferior as he is manipulated by his wife (it does happen), and God HATES it when children see their parents in a relationship where there is no love, (what are they teaching their children about healthy relationships?)

To divorce somebody for being unfaithful is one thing, but divorce in itself is a lifesaver for some people, some relationships are just not meant to be, don't be so quick to judge,

God himself doesn't prepose to judge a man until he is dead, so why should you?
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Amen! Don't mess with the ninja Kiwi's
 
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KezE

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Ramon said:
I was certain this would not be so easily accepted, because such an idea requires sacrifice, which many people are not willing to make, EVEN MERCY!!!

Again, we should NOT advocate divorce, because it really makes the Lord angry. Don't you all know what the Lord Jesus did on that cross? Do you understand it? Or is it just a nice story to you? Do we or don't we desire to be like him?

Don't you know that he died for a bride that was not a bride, but who was an estranged whore? YES! He died for a wild untamed woman, who knew nothing better than to lust. He died so that, by the demonstration of his love, in the giving of his own life, he might win the heart of his bride to be.

This love of Jesus Christ came at a cost of his own life. But which of you are willing to do this for the sake of love. I am telling you this, the understanding of this love will seal the heart for eternity. If the marriage is a mess now, consider Christ who died, not for a perfect woman, but for a rebellious woman, ever drawing her with the remembrance of his blood.

May Jesus bless you.
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I hear your message Ramon & agree with you. We need to fight for marriages as a whole - it is a spiritual warfare & one that I'm battling in through the power of prayer! I believe that we need to pray particularly about how marriages are portrayed in the media (movies, sitcoms, even adverts).
However, there is an understanding that you need as well. Yes, Christ loves the world so much that He died for all. He is forgiving & merciful - IF there is repentance. God's mercy & forgiveness has a limit - we will all face judgement day & if you have willingly chosen to turn away from God, you will be rejected.
If a marriage partner is unfaithful but is repentant, there can be forgiveness & reconciliation. However, if there is no repentance & the partner stays with them in the marriage, then he will continue to live in sin as there is no consequences for his sin. A person who continues to live in sin, without repentance, cannot be reconciled to God. If a person breaks their marriage vows & is unrepentant, there cannot be reconciliation in the marriage.
I personally believe we spend too much time talking about what the bible says about divorce & not enough time about what it says about marriage. There are plenty of verses that tell us how we should behave in marriage. If we spent more time pondering those, there would be less reason to discuss divorce.
 
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pmack74

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Hi,
I left my wife three years ago because she willfully withheld sexual contact from me for six years. When confronted with the truth she accused me of having erectile dysfunction, which was disproved by not one, not two, but three doctors, two of whom were specialists in this field. She then went on to accuse me of having an affair (not true) and accused my mother of trying to poison her. She left my in such a financial, emotional and spiritual mess that it has taken almost three years, two of which have been spent in a foreign country just to recover. I would love to return to my home country, but I cannot due to financial reasons stemming from my ex-wife's behaviour.

I am fully aware of the scriptures and their message on this subject, but in the real world, people are being beaten, lied to, threatened and cheated on daily. In cases of abuse, sometimes the only real option is to leave before someone gets badly hurt.
 
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AnandaHya

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In Heaven there is no marriage:


Matthew 22:29-33 (New King James Version)

29 Jesus answered and said to them, “You are mistaken, not knowing the Scriptures nor the power of God. 30 For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels of God[a] in heaven. 31 But concerning the resurrection of the dead, have you not read what was spoken to you by God, saying, 32 ‘I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob’? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.” 33 And when the multitudes heard this, they were astonished at His teaching.

Mark 12:24-27 (New King James Version)

24 Jesus answered and said to them, “Are you not therefore mistaken, because you do not know the Scriptures nor the power of God? 25 For when they rise from the dead, they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven. 26 But concerning the dead, that they rise, have you not read in the book of Moses, in the burning bush passage, how God spoke to him, saying, ‘I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob’?[a] 27 He is not the God of the dead, but the God of the living. You are therefore greatly mistaken.
 
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allyseshawree

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A few months ago I came very close to divorcing my husband. I knew it was wrong to think that way, but things were not going well at the time and I was feeling so bad I felt there was no way out. But thank God that I knew divorce was not the answer, because I reached out and sought help for myself, and for my husband, and we have become a much stronger couple, and I love him very much. Sometimes we have to push through and do what is right, even when we don't want to.
 
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Ramon

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allyseshawree said:
A few months ago I came very close to divorcing my husband. I knew it was wrong to think that way, but things were not going well at the time and I was feeling so bad I felt there was no way out. But thank God that I knew divorce was not the answer, because I reached out and sought help for myself, and for my husband, and we have become a much stronger couple, and I love him very much. Sometimes we have to push through and do what is right, even when we don't want to.
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GLORY TO GOD!! YES AMEN!! May Jesus bless you. We do have to fight.
 
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Ramon

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VikkiKate89 said:
Yet another passage of "The Bible According to Ramon." God knows why we love sin. He also knows why it's bad for us, hence him being against sin. He created us, he knows how our minds and hearts work (he did make them didn't he?). Saying God can't fathom why someone would love sin would be like saying a computer programmer can't fathom how his own program works.
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When the computer gets a virus, which the programmer didn't program into it, then that is when the issue comes. And sin is that virus that corrupts the world. God does not corrupt what is good. It is Satan who works by sin that does this.
 
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hybrexs

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No we have a choice you cant put all the blame on satan, yer hes bad but god has given us a choice so in fact it us who is working by sin aswell as satan, since we are born sinners. and also the computer gets a virus thing, you should not use your own quotes but use quotes from the bible since thats what god has made it for us to take from his wisdom. your own quotes are more unwise
 
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kellyjeannine

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What about ABUSE?
What about when he consistently lies to you and others?
 
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Ramon

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hybrexs said:
No we have a choice you cant put all the blame on satan, yer hes bad but god has given us a choice so in fact it us who is working by sin aswell as satan, since we are born sinners. and also the computer gets a virus thing, you should not use your own quotes but use quotes from the bible since thats what god has made it for us to take from his wisdom. your own quotes are more unwise
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My friend, seeing that the people could not understand spiritual things Jesus spoke to them according to their understanding. We cannot be so narrow minded. These parables were spoken to men who were farmers and fisherman at trade. The bible doesn't guide me in what to say, the Spirit does, may Jesus bless you.
 
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Ramon

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kellyjeannine said:
What about ABUSE?
What about when he consistently lies to you and others?
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My friend, I do not want to place a yoke on you. Because I do understand such cases as being difficult. I believe the Lord is the one who should be asked in that case, but I will never tell you to get a divorce, but to rather suffer it for the hope that the Lord will repair the marriage, and we know that would be better.

It is just because I see how long the Lord suffered for me, that I can say, that that is the right way. Even when we abused him, lied to him, and committed adultery against him. May Jesus bless you.
 
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judgedebra

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I agree with you Ramon, I just seperated from my husband, but I have to follow the words of the Lord, until death do us part. We cannot use any excuse to divorce from your spouse, unless it is for adultry. It also says husbands do not divorce your wives. I believe in that. I believe in all of God's word, not just pick and choose. God bless
 
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Ramon

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judgedebra said:
I agree with you Ramon, I just seperated from my husband, but I have to follow the words of the Lord, until death do us part. We cannot use any excuse to divorce from your spouse, unless it is for adultry. It also says husbands do not divorce your wives. I believe in that. I believe in all of God's word, not just pick and choose. God bless
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WOW! You just reminded me. This conversation actually came up a long time ago in the bible study. But I was just in awe at how many people did not see the better solution. Though Israel was separated from God at times, he has never divorced her.

That would meet both ends, you would not have to divorce, but could separate for a while. Then you will not have a guilty conscience. This reminds me of a scripture. Hold on I will look for it:

17 For it is better, if the will of God be so, that ye suffer for well doing, than for evil doing.
18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;
20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.
21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:
22 Who is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of God; angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him.
1 Peter 3

''But the answer of a good conscience toward God''!!!

May Jesus bless you
 
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RIGHTHAND

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GOD does hate divorce because it really is another way for satan to destroy family just as he is trying to stop us from being the bride of JESUS so he is trying to decieve us into thinking marriage shouldnt be, but the bottom line is we will be one with JESUS as his bride, on mans side it is ok for or woman or a man to divorce and not be held in bondage if the unbeleiver leaves the union of marraige.We as christians should never try to understand any 2 people that go through divorce it something between GOD and them or you your self if it has happened to you. Read 1st corinthians 7:15 and understand it before you think for or judge someone else anyway.
 
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hybrexs

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Yes, but god wants us to study the bible he doent want us to make things up when he has given us wisdom, he has everything well need from the bible
 
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Ramon

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hybrexs said:
Yes, but god wants us to study the bible he doent want us to make things up when he has given us wisdom, he has everything well need from the bible
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Again, you limit God. If I were talking to a architect about the salvation of God, I would not talk about it as if I am talking to a grave digger. And if I were talking to a fisherman about the grace of God, I would not talk about it as if to a school teacher.

I am not limited to the bible, I am limited by the Spirit of God, who us unlimited. Because this same Spirit that was in the people who voiced of the bible lives in me, I am ever ready to present that hope. I don't have to use the parables of Jesus when I UNDERSTAND the parables of Jesus. And not I, but the Spirit of God who reveals the truth of the gospel to those who believe.

May Jesus bless you.
 
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hybrexs

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opps put it in 2 times
 
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hybrexs

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No you are wrong, if you talk to someone, it should be the same, you should be talking about how much god loves them and what they will gain from it etc etc. You say you arnt limited to the bible, yes that is true but what you are forgetting is that the bible isnt just a book, it is gods wisdom, there is no other way to become wise then learn from the bible. there is no other way to to the father then jesus same like there is no other way to learn about god then the bible
god bless you and sorry about not saying it b4 forgot
 
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