HOW MANY HOURS WAS JESUS DEAD ON THE CROSS?

[Prycejosh1987]

So maybe he guessed a bit incorrectly, as to how long Jesus was dead on the cross.

I do believe that the sabbath was the next day, and it was a sin for them to have people on the crosses on sabbath day, so they quickened Jesus's death and the other two on the crosses deaths. Well Jesus was already dead. He said today you will be with me in paradise, he also said in john that a day has 12 hours. It gives us a clue as to how long he was on the cross for, i would not suspect long as he died giving up his spirit.

 

[MyrtleTrees]

I do believe that the sabbath was the next day, and it was a sin for them to have people on the crosses on sabbath day, so they quickened Jesus's death and the other two on the crosses deaths. Well Jesus was already dead. He said today you will be with me in paradise, he also said in john that a day has 12 hours. It gives us a clue as to how long he was on the cross for, i would not suspect long as he died giving up his spirit.

I think you're right about that - it does say the next day was the Sabbath, or sometimes says it in this way: "the day of preparation."

 

[rstrats]

Myrtle Trees,
re: "I think you're right about that - it does say the next day was the Sabbath, or sometimes says it in this way: 'the day of preparation.'"

I'm not aware where the the Sabbath is ever referred to as the day of preparation. What do you have in mind?

 

[posthuman]

that's when they killed the Passover lamb in Old Testament times.

the priest in the temple killed the passover lamb at exactly the same time that Christ chose to deliver His spirit

 

[posthuman]

I think you're right about that - it does say the next day was the Sabbath, or sometimes says it in this way: "the day of preparation."

passover is both a specific day & a week-long festival. days are counted sunset to sunset.

Christ died at exactly the same time the seder lamb was slain in the temple, wednesday. this isn't a sabbath day - work could be done but had to be completed before sundown, which marks the beginning of the next day.

the next day was a high sabbath of the festival, unleavened bread, thursday. no work could be done. they rested

the day after that, they bought spices and prepared them ((apparently not knowing that Nicodemus - wise man that he is - had already done this and had them waiting before Gethsemane, along with Joseph of Arimathea, also wise, who had a tomb prepared)) friday. this is the only day they had in which they could buy and sell and do work

the third day was the weekly sabbath, saturday. they rested.

Christ rose before dawn on the 8th day which is the 1st, sunday. this is the day of the festival of firstfruits, and God chose this day to rise, so that He, the Lamb that was slain, might be the Firstfruits of the dead.

3 days and three nights:
wednesday night / thursday day ((unleavened bread high sabbath))
thursday night / friday day ((preparation day))
friday night / saturday day ((weekly sabbath))

firstfruits begins at sundown saturday night. a high day but not a sabbath. the 8th day.
before dawn the women came with the spices they had prepared friday afternoon, and found that He had risen.

 

[posthuman]

friday crucifixion is malarky

it's not 'good friday' it's 'burial spice friday'

 

[GraceAndTruth]

Watchman Nee (in a book I'm reading) sounds like he said Jesus was on the cross for 6 hours.

https://www.theisraelofgodrc.com/Hebrew

Watchman Nee is considered apostate if not heretical. He is listed in every Christian cult watch.

 

[CS1]

Watchman Nee (in a book I'm reading) sounds like he said Jesus was on the cross for 6 hours.
"So far as the experience of co-death in the Christian life is concerned, it is mainly included in this representative period six hours."
I checked the account of the Passover on this matter, in Numbers 9.
Num 9:3
3 In the fourteenth day of this month, at even, ye shall keep it in his appointed season: according to all the rites of it, and according to all the ceremonies thereof, shall ye keep it.
KJV
Num 9:12
12 They shall leave none of it unto the morning, nor break any bone of it: according to all the ordinances of the passover they shall keep it.
KJV
But according to this chart I found online, it sounds like He was dead on the cross for 3 hours, judging by the details of the Passover, as to having started in the evening, and that eating of it was to finish before morning. So maybe he guessed a bit incorrectly, as to how long Jesus was dead on the cross.
https://www.theisraelofgodrc.com/Hebrew

dead is dead no matter how long on that day if you died at 9am and were dead at 1am the following morning you were dead for two days already hours are not relevant I can assure if ones dies and and goes to hell for 1/2 a day he was in hell a that day lol.

 

[Blik]

As followers of Christ, each one of us must decide about the Sabbath and the Feasts. Our organized church decided against honoring them, so we must decide if we go along with their decision.

We are made righteous through the forgiveness of our sins, Christ protects us from our sins causing death. We are not asked then, to be sinless, but to want to be sinless, so it is a matter of what we want to do.

That takes us to the law, and the law can be summed up with love, the new covenant did away with the law as hard and fast rules but as the spirit of the law. The rule of the law is in the Sabbath and Feasts, how does that relate to the law of love?

Scripture does not spell this out for us, it only says we are not liable for the customs of the Jews, they don't apply to gentiles. The organized church puts the Sabbath and Feasts in the category of customs. By the law of love, we must love the earthly church and accept what it is.

I think the earthly church has made a wrong decision because the feasts and Sabbath are about the expression of love. However, by this law of love I must accept the church's decision.

 

[Blik]

Watchman Nee (in a book I'm reading) sounds like he said Jesus was on the cross for 6 hours.

We are told about what Christ did when he died in the flesh and was made alive in the spirit in 1 Peter. I think it shows that He was immediately made alive in the spirit.

1 Peter 3: 18-19 After being made alive, he went and made proclamation to the imprisoned spirits— 20 to those who were disobedient long ago when God waited patiently in the days of Noah while the ark was being built. In it only a few people, eight in all, were saved through water, 21 and this water symbolizes baptism that now saves you also—

 

[Dino246]

the priest in the temple killed the passover lamb at exactly the same time that Christ chose to deliver His spirit

I accept this as true, but it means that Jesus and the disciples ate their Passover meal a day early.

 

[posthuman]

I accept this as true, but it means that Jesus and the disciples ate their Passover meal a day early.

Or that the priests had taken to slaughtering the national lamb at the wrong time

 

[reneweddaybyday]

I accept this as true, but it means that Jesus and the disciples ate their Passover meal a day early.

John 19:

13 When Pilate therefore heard that saying, he brought Jesus forth, and sat down in the judgment seat in a place that is called the Pavement, but in the Hebrew, Gabbatha.

14 And it was the preparation of the passover, and about the sixth hour: and he saith unto the Jews, Behold your King!

15 But they cried out, Away with him, away with him, crucify him. Pilate saith unto them, Shall I crucify your King? The chief priests answered, We have no king but Caesar.

16 Then delivered he him therefore unto them to be crucified. And they took Jesus, and led him away.

17 And he bearing his cross went forth into a place called the place of a skull, which is called in the Hebrew Golgotha:

18 Where they crucified him, and two other with him, on either side one, and Jesus in the midst.



Mark 15:

37 And Jesus cried with a loud voice, and gave up the ghost.

38 And the veil of the temple was rent in twain from the top to the bottom.

...

42 And now when the even was come, because it was the preparation, that is, the day before the sabbath

43 Joseph of Arimathaea, an honourable counsellor, which also waited for the kingdom of God, came, and went in boldly unto Pilate, and craved the body of Jesus.

44 And Pilate marvelled if he were already dead: and calling unto him the centurion, he asked him whether he had been any while dead.

45 And when he knew it of the centurion, he gave the body to Joseph.



Luke 23:

44 And it was about the sixth hour, and there was a darkness over all the earth until the ninth hour.

45 And the sun was darkened, and the veil of the temple was rent in the midst.

46 And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost.

...

50 And, behold, there was a man named Joseph, a counsellor; and he was a good man, and a just:

51 (The same had not consented to the counsel and deed of them; ) he was of Arimathaea, a city of the Jews: who also himself waited for the kingdom of God.

52 This man went unto Pilate, and begged the body of Jesus.

53 And he took it down, and wrapped it in linen, and laid it in a sepulchre that was hewn in stone, wherein never man before was laid.

54 And that day was the preparation, and the sabbath drew on.

 

[Magenta]

I accept this as true, but it means that Jesus and the disciples ate their Passover meal a day early.

Or that the priests had taken to slaughtering the national lamb at the wrong time

I think Jesus would know better than others when the Passover was

 

[JaumeJ]

I accept this as true, but it means that Jesus and the disciples ate their Passover meal a day early.

Just a note. It was not a day early if it was after sunset.

 

[posthuman]

I accept this as true, but it means that Jesus and the disciples ate their Passover meal a day early.

Or that 'the last supper' wasn't a seder

 

[Dino246]

Or that 'the last supper' wasn't a seder

I don't argue it either way, but I also don't accept (what I consider) too-simple explanations. Jesus said, "I have eagerly desired to eat this Passover with you before I suffer;" in Luke 22:15. He wasn't confused, and He wasn't wrong about the day.

I think the problem is that people think that He died at the moment the Passover lambs were being slaughtered, but that association is not stated clearly in Scripture. It's a reasonable speculation, but doesn't explain how He and the disciples could eat a meal that had not been prepared yet.

 

[Magenta]

I don't argue it either way, but I also don't accept (what I consider) too-simple explanations. Jesus said, "I have eagerly desired to eat this Passover with you before I suffer;" in Luke 22:15. He wasn't confused, and He wasn't wrong about the day.

I think the problem is that people think that He died at the moment the Passover lambs were being slaughtered, but that association is not stated clearly in Scripture. It's a reasonable speculation, but doesn't explain how He and the disciples could eat a meal that had not been prepared yet.

I don't really follow what you mean about eating a meal that had not been prepared...

But I am wondering if it has anything to do with the fact there were two Sabbaths that week?

The Sabbath for which Jesus had to be removed from the cross was the
first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread, not the weekly Sabbath.

The day of preparation for the High Sabbath is the first day of the (seven day) Feast of Unleavened Bread.

 

[Dino246]

I don't really follow what you mean about eating a meal that had not been prepared...

If the "Passover lamb" had not yet been slaughtered, they could not have eaten the Passover meal.

But I am wondering if it has anything to do with the fact there were two Sabbaths that week?

The Sabbath for which Jesus had to be removed from the cross was the
first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread, not the weekly Sabbath.

The day of preparation for the High Sabbath is the first day of the (seven day) Feast of Unleavened Bread.

There are (very likely) two Sabbaths that week, but still only one Passover.

 

[MyrtleTrees]

We are told about what Christ did when he died in the flesh and was made alive in the spirit in 1 Peter. I think it shows that He was immediately made alive in the spirit.

1 Peter 3: 18-19 After being made alive, he went and made proclamation to the imprisoned spirits— 20 to those who were disobedient long ago when God waited patiently in the days of Noah while the ark was being built. In it only a few people, eight in all, were saved through water, 21 and this water symbolizes baptism that now saves you also—

Hi! Yes, Jesus' spirit didn't die when His body died. Spirits don't die.

That is a difficult to understand passage about Jesus preaching to the spirits in prison - not sure exactly what it means. As the passage you posted implies - it sounds like He spoke to the spirits of unbelievers who had died in the past. I'm not sure why. Maybe to reprimand those who had died without having made a commitment to pleasing God with their lives, while they'd been alive.