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laymen

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Take a moment and Pray for our Leaders!

Rom 13:
(Ro 13:1) Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God,
The New King James Version. (1982). . Nashville: Thomas Nelson.

(Ro 13:3–4). Do you want to be unafraid of the authority? Do what is good, and you will have praise from the same. 4 For he is God’s minister to you for good.
The New King James Version.

Trust God, the peace of God, which passeth all understanding,



Isaiah 8:12
“Do not say, ‘A conspiracy,’
Concerning all that this people call a conspiracy,
Nor be afraid of their threats, nor be troubled.

Be not Afraid nor be Troubled!! Gods Got this!

Do not dwell on fear, for fear is only good for a moment, to keep us aware of our surroundings!
Conspiracy can make one feel weak, or overzealous. For God is greater than any conspiracy have no Troubles!

Beloved, do not think it strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened to you; 13 but rejoice to the extent that you partake of Christ’s sufferings, that when His glory is revealed, you may also be glad with exceeding joy. 14 If you are reproached for the name of Christ, blessed are you, for the Spirit of glory and of God rests upon you.The New King James Version. (1982). (1 Pe 4:12–14). Nashville: Thomas Nelson.

8 Finally, brethren, whatever things are true, whatever things are noble, whatever things are just, whatever things are pure, whatever things are lovely, whatever things are of good report, if there is any virtue and if there is anything praiseworthy—meditate on these things. 9 The things which you learned and received and heard and saw in me, these do, and the God of peace will be with you.The New King James Version. (1982). (Php 4:8–9). Nashville: Thomas Nelson.

5 casting down arguments and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, bringing every thought into captivity to the obedience of Christ, 6 and being ready to punish all disobedience when your obedience is fulfilled.The New King James Version. (1982). (2 Co 10:5–6). Nashville: Thomas Nelson

Let these verse be your shield of salvation

Also it is not good for a soul to be without knowledge,
And he sins who hastens with his feet.
The New King James Version. (1982). (Pr 19:2). Nashville: Thomas Nelson.


When we rush in to things we might find Trouble! If you have to,,,, take a step back and learn! before jumping in with the conspiracy.
Enthusiasm with out Knowledge goes no where.... Dead end. leads to sin and sin to death.


 

p_rehbein

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When we rush in to things we might find Trouble! If you have to,,,, take a step back and learn! before jumping in with the conspiracy.
Enthusiasm with out Knowledge goes no where.... Dead end. leads to sin and sin to death.
What is this "conspiracy" (KJV says confederacy) you are speaking against?
 
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Blackpowderduelist

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Why are we calling them leaders? They are supposed to represent us, not lead us. Our only leader under Christ is a document called the constitution. Our representatives are supposed to up hold the constitution, and represent our voice successively according to region and then as a nation. Not lead us any where.
 
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Blackpowderduelist

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I'm gonna pray that you learn that they are our envoy and upon realizing this you terminate their contract and employ new envoys.
 

laymen

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I'm gonna pray that you learn that they are our envoy and upon realizing this you terminate their contract and employ new envoys.
In this sense it denotes a “confederacy” formed for the purpose of conspiring against someone. Today the word “confederacy” is generally used in the favorable sense of “alliance,” though it still means also “a combination of persons for unlawful purposes,” a usage more general when the KJV was translated. It is in this latter sense that the word is here used. Nichol, F. D. (Ed.). (1977)
 

laymen

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Why are we calling them leaders? They are supposed to represent us, not lead us. Our only leader under Christ is a document called the constitution. Our representatives are supposed to up hold the constitution, and represent our voice successively according to region and then as a nation. Not lead us any where.
So they don't lead the charge we set for them?? A Leader does not have to be in charge of you. For the verse says God is the only one in charge. leader: a party member chosen to manage party activities in a legislative body the majority leader.
 

laymen

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What is this "conspiracy" (KJV says confederacy) you are speaking against?
In this sense it denotes a “confederacy” formed for the purpose of conspiring against someone. Today the word “confederacy” is generally used in the favorable sense of “alliance,” though it still means also “a combination of persons for unlawful purposes,” a usage more general when the KJV was translated. It is in this latter sense that the word is here used. Nichol, F. D. (Ed.). (1977)
^^^^^^^
 

Blain

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Conspiracy is often likened to nut jobs and crazy theories but it actually means hidden knowledge or secret truth, one has to search these matters for themselves with discernment and understanding not discount what others call conspiracy.

Our leaders who are meant to represent not lead us even the ones we voted for are to be taken with a grain of salt because we are living in a time when the book of Revelation is going to open wide and in full make no mistake the end is indeed near and our leaders are going to be the ones to bring it about.
There is nothing wrong with praying for them but just know that there is a divine conspiracy going on judgement is coming to the world sin and corruption and all kinds of vile boastfulness and un repentance can only be tolerated for so long.

This is a chess game between God and satan and the people including us are the chess pieces our leaders will be the ones to be used to bring us to the end game
 

AndyMaleh

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#10
Take a moment and Pray for our Leaders!

Rom 13:
(Ro 13:1) Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God,
The New King James Version. (1982). . Nashville: Thomas Nelson.

(Ro 13:3–4). Do you want to be unafraid of the authority? Do what is good, and you will have praise from the same. 4 For he is God’s minister to you for good.
The New King James Version.

Trust God, the peace of God, which passeth all understanding,



Isaiah 8:12
“Do not say, ‘A conspiracy,’
Concerning all that this people call a conspiracy,
Nor be afraid of their threats, nor be troubled.

Be not Afraid nor be Troubled!! Gods Got this!

Do not dwell on fear, for fear is only good for a moment, to keep us aware of our surroundings!
Conspiracy can make one feel weak, or overzealous. For God is greater than any conspiracy have no Troubles!

Beloved, do not think it strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened to you; 13 but rejoice to the extent that you partake of Christ’s sufferings, that when His glory is revealed, you may also be glad with exceeding joy. 14 If you are reproached for the name of Christ, blessed are you, for the Spirit of glory and of God rests upon you.The New King James Version. (1982). (1 Pe 4:12–14). Nashville: Thomas Nelson.

8 Finally, brethren, whatever things are true, whatever things are noble, whatever things are just, whatever things are pure, whatever things are lovely, whatever things are of good report, if there is any virtue and if there is anything praiseworthy—meditate on these things. 9 The things which you learned and received and heard and saw in me, these do, and the God of peace will be with you.The New King James Version. (1982). (Php 4:8–9). Nashville: Thomas Nelson.

5 casting down arguments and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, bringing every thought into captivity to the obedience of Christ, 6 and being ready to punish all disobedience when your obedience is fulfilled.The New King James Version. (1982). (2 Co 10:5–6). Nashville: Thomas Nelson

Let these verse be your shield of salvation

Also it is not good for a soul to be without knowledge,
And he sins who hastens with his feet.
The New King James Version. (1982). (Pr 19:2). Nashville: Thomas Nelson.


When we rush in to things we might find Trouble! If you have to,,,, take a step back and learn! before jumping in with the conspiracy.
Enthusiasm with out Knowledge goes no where.... Dead end. leads to sin and sin to death.
Amen!
 

laymen

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Conspiracy is often likened to nut jobs and crazy theories but it actually means hidden knowledge or secret truth, one has to search these matters for themselves with discernment and understanding not discount what others call conspiracy.

Our leaders who are meant to represent not lead us even the ones we voted for are to be taken with a grain of salt because we are living in a time when the book of Revelation is going to open wide and in full make no mistake the end is indeed near and our leaders are going to be the ones to bring it about.
There is nothing wrong with praying for them but just know that there is a divine conspiracy going on judgement is coming to the world sin and corruption and all kinds of vile boastfulness and un repentance can only be tolerated for so long.

This is a chess game between God and satan and the people including us are the chess pieces our leaders will be the ones to be used to bring us to the end game
Blain:
God tells us to pray for our enemies and also pray for our brothers and sisters., Sometimes you don’t know whether they are enemy or foe, But I think it’s specifically important for those who are in learner ship rolls. Because depending on "our" reaction (influence) they react a certain way. So in disregard to your play on semantics.

I think,.. I agree with you. 😌

where did you get that definition : source. ??? “hidden knowledge" or "secret truth", one has to search these things.Public Thread....
 

Blain

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Blain:
God tells us to pray for our enemies and also pray for our brothers and sisters., Sometimes you don’t know whether they are enemy or foe, But I think it’s specifically important for those who are in learner ship rolls. Because depending on "our" reaction (influence) they react a certain way. So in disregard to your play on semantics.

I think,.. I agree with you. 😌

where did you get that definition : source. ??? “hidden knowledge" or "secret truth", one has to search these things.Public Thread....
Well I did say there is nothing wrong with praying for them however considering the times we are living in it very well could be God's will to let them have their way for now

Actually the reason I defined that word in that way was not because of the words definition but rather the way it is used. Conspiracy in itself is always a connection of dots coinciding with a scheme or evil plot buit the core of a hidden plot or a secretive plan is in fact hidden knowledge or a secret truth.
Think of the bible for instance this amazing word of God is the very definition of hidden knowledge and secret truth and is not shown in plain sight one firstly has to have the holy spirit and even if we read this book a thousand times we still can find hidden truths in it

I always say the bible is like an onion or the earths crust it has many layers there is far more than meets the eye the greatest of conspiracies also have many layers
 
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lenna

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When the righteous increase, the people rejoice, but when the wicked rule, the people groan. Proverbs 29:2

If a ruler listens to falsehood, all his officials will be wicked. Proverbs 29:12

They groan for the same reasons that others did in the past; over-taxation, a huge national debt and growing, national defense and security issues, sexual immorality, and corruption in the private, public, and political sphere.

sounds familiar
 

laymen

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When the righteous increase, the people rejoice, but when the wicked rule, the people groan. Proverbs 29:2

If a ruler listens to falsehood, all his officials will be wicked. Proverbs 29:12

They groan for the same reasons that others did in the past; over-taxation, a huge national debt and growing, national defense and security issues, sexual immorality, and corruption in the private, public, and political sphere.

sounds familiar
Ruler? In order to be a great"Leader" on must know how to follow>"
 

laymen

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Conspiracy in itself is always a connection of dots coinciding with a scheme or evil plot buit the core of a hidden plot or a secretive plan is in fact hidden knowledge or a secret truth.
Connect the dots,, If you mean:
For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:

The Holy Bible: King James Version. (1995). (electronic ed. of the 1769 edition of the 1611 Authorized Version., Is 28:10). Bellingham WA: Logos Research Systems, Inc.

It is not a conspiracy if it is true. Its just Truth. God tells us Truth in his own time. And to some before others just depends on the Spirit.
 

Blain

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Connect the dots,, If you mean:
For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:

The Holy Bible: King James Version. (1995). (electronic ed. of the 1769 edition of the 1611 Authorized Version., Is 28:10). Bellingham WA: Logos Research Systems, Inc.

It is not a conspiracy if it is true. Its just Truth. God tells us Truth in his own time. And to some before others just depends on the Spirit.
a lot truth is considered conspiracy but to find the truth of a matter you have to dig study research discern my point is that based my term of conspiracy from the bible, hidden knowledge secret truth a need to dig study research and using discernment, with both the bible and with any conspiracy you have to do this otherwise even if it is true you will remain blind to it.
 

laymen

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a lot truth is considered conspiracy but to find the truth of a matter you have to dig study research discern my point is that based my term of conspiracy from the bible, hidden knowledge secret truth a need to dig study research and using discernment, with both the bible and with any conspiracy you have to do this otherwise even if it is true you will remain blind to it.
I mean i guess you could argue conspiracy in that sense of the word. What I mean is we should not go around repeating things we are not sure of until we know the truth. even then its not good to spread fear and doubt.
 

Blain

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I mean i guess you could argue conspiracy in that sense of the word. What I mean is we should not go around repeating things we are not sure of until we know the truth. even then its not good to spread fear and doubt.
True not to mention if you go to far into that rabbit hole it consumes your every thought and you begin to see it everywhere even if it isn't there
Although honestly some I kind of think are just to mess with people who have that kind of mindset like the flat earth conspiracy:rolleyes: