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BUT not born in SIN, The BIBLE teaches that as soon as they are born they start going Astray.
PSA 58:3 The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies.
This dose not say they are born in sin, BUT tells us that they go Astray, BY choosing to after they are BORN, TO say they are sinners when they are BORN IS putting the BLAM ON GOD
PSA 58:3 The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies.
This dose not say they are born in sin, BUT tells us that they go Astray, BY choosing to after they are BORN, TO say they are sinners when they are BORN IS putting the BLAM ON GOD
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Now I'm a sinner because I dont believe in John N Darby & Adulterer C.I Scofield's rapture, Big Smiles
A Pre-Trib rapture isnt found in the Holy Bible, nowhere.
The Church will be present on the earth during the tribulation, and be resurrected and caught up at the second coming of Jesus Christ, immediately after the tribulation
A Pre-Trib rapture isnt found in the Holy Bible, nowhere.
The Church will be present on the earth during the tribulation, and be resurrected and caught up at the second coming of Jesus Christ, immediately after the tribulation
Some, like myself already see the tribulation (a.k.a., the day of the Lord) having commenced. There hasn't been this number of displaced people throughout the world since the end of WWII, and these numbers are growing daily. Economies are imploding, and starvation is increasing. Even here in the U.S., tens of millions are now without work, are short on food, and on the verge of being evicted. If this isn't tribulation for the billion or so people throughout the world experiencing some of these situations, then I'm not entirely sure what does constitute tribulation. It still isn't at the level where it is the worst of times that have ever been as the Bible tells us will be, but it definitely seems to be getting there fast.
There will be a future human man who will be revealed as the Jewish Messiah, when this (Man Of Sin) is revealed in Jerusalem, the 3.5 year tribulation starts, this is a cake walk, compared to what's coming for the wicked.
Revelation 9:2-6KJV
2 And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit.
3 And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power.
4 And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.
5 And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man.
6 And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them.
Revelation 16:1-9KJV
1 And I heard a great voice out of the temple saying to the seven angels, Go your ways, and pour out the vials of the wrath of God upon the earth.
2 And the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and upon them which worshipped his image.
3 And the second angel poured out his vial upon the sea; and it became as the blood of a dead man: and every living soul died in the sea.
4 And the third angel poured out his vial upon the rivers and fountains of waters; and they became blood.
5 And I heard the angel of the waters say, Thou art righteous, O Lord, which art, and wast, and shalt be, because thou hast judged thus.
6 For they have shed the blood of saints and prophets, and thou hast given them blood to drink; for they are worthy.
7 And I heard another out of the altar say, Even so, Lord God Almighty, true and righteous are thy judgments.
8 And the fourth angel poured out his vial upon the sun; and power was given unto him to scorch men with fire.
9 And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to give him glory.
10 And the fifth angel poured out his vial upon the seat of the beast; and his kingdom was full of darkness; and they gnawed their tongues for pain,
11 And blasphemed the God of heaven because of their pains and their sores, and repented not of their deeds.
Revelation 9:2-6KJV
2 And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit.
3 And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power.
4 And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.
5 And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man.
6 And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them.
Revelation 16:1-9KJV
1 And I heard a great voice out of the temple saying to the seven angels, Go your ways, and pour out the vials of the wrath of God upon the earth.
2 And the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and upon them which worshipped his image.
3 And the second angel poured out his vial upon the sea; and it became as the blood of a dead man: and every living soul died in the sea.
4 And the third angel poured out his vial upon the rivers and fountains of waters; and they became blood.
5 And I heard the angel of the waters say, Thou art righteous, O Lord, which art, and wast, and shalt be, because thou hast judged thus.
6 For they have shed the blood of saints and prophets, and thou hast given them blood to drink; for they are worthy.
7 And I heard another out of the altar say, Even so, Lord God Almighty, true and righteous are thy judgments.
8 And the fourth angel poured out his vial upon the sun; and power was given unto him to scorch men with fire.
9 And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to give him glory.
10 And the fifth angel poured out his vial upon the seat of the beast; and his kingdom was full of darkness; and they gnawed their tongues for pain,
11 And blasphemed the God of heaven because of their pains and their sores, and repented not of their deeds.
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The apostle Paul called himself the CHIEF SINNER.
18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh) nothing good dwells; for to will is present with me, but how to perform what is good I do not find. 19 For the good that I will to do, I do not do; but the evil I will not to do, that I practice. 20 Now if I do what I will not to do, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells in me.
21 I find then a law, that evil is present with me, the one who wills to do good. 22 For I delight in the law of God according to the inward man. 23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members. 24 O wretched man that I am! Who will deliver me from this body of death? 25 I thank God—through Jesus Christ our Lord!
So then, with the mind I myself serve the law of God, but with the flesh the law of sin.
did what he should not and did not do what he should.......called himself a wretched man.
Romans 7: 18-25
18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh) nothing good dwells; for to will is present with me, but how to perform what is good I do not find. 19 For the good that I will to do, I do not do; but the evil I will not to do, that I practice. 20 Now if I do what I will not to do, it is no longer I who do it, but sin that dwells in me.
21 I find then a law, that evil is present with me, the one who wills to do good. 22 For I delight in the law of God according to the inward man. 23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members. 24 O wretched man that I am! Who will deliver me from this body of death? 25 I thank God—through Jesus Christ our Lord!
So then, with the mind I myself serve the law of God, but with the flesh the law of sin.
did what he should not and did not do what he should.......called himself a wretched man.
Romans 7: 18-25
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16 Now if I do [habitually] what is contrary to my desire, [that means that] I acknowledge and agree that the Law is good (morally excellent) and that I take sides with it. The Amplified Bible. (1987). (Ro 7:16). La Habra, CA: The Lockman Foundation.
I think this is a very good translation of the word "do" with the word " Habitually "4472 ποιέομαι (poieomai), ποιέω (poieō): vb.; Meaning to
behave toward someone in a particular way (Mt 7:12; 1Jn 1:6) Swanson, J. (1997). Dictionary of Biblical Languages with Semantic Domains: Greek (New Testament) (electronic ed.). Oak Harbor: Logos Research Systems, Inc.
The word ("will", "KJV")2527 θέλω (thelō): vb. ("Desire"AMP) be of an opinion, think something to be so (2Pe 3:5+)
Swanson, J. (1997). Dictionary of Biblical Languages with Semantic Domains: Greek (New Testament) (electronic ed.). Oak Harbor: Logos Research Systems, Inc.
If you habitually do what is contrary to your desire !
Paul says:
5 casting down arguments and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, bringing every thought into captivity to the obedience of Christ, 6 and being ready to punish all disobedience when your obedience is fulfilled.
The New King James Version. (1982). (2 Co 10:5–6). Nashville: Thomas Nelson.
Even though we will always desire evil, God has given us away to deal with bad thoughts, telling us to cast down all arguments that exalt their self against the knowledge of God. So the more "knowledge" of God you have the less you will chose to do wrong and the more habitually you will do right things.
Knowledge of God>
If you seek her as silver,
And search for her as for hidden treasures;
5 Then you will understand the fear of the LORD,
And find the knowledge of God.
The New King James Version. (1982). (Pr 2:4–5). Nashville: Thomas Nelson.
"Seek her as silver" The word "do" again from rom 7:16 can also means: 4472 ποιέομαι (poieomai), ποιέω (poieō): vb.make profit, make money (Lk 19:18);Swanson, J. (1997). Dictionary of Biblical Languages with Semantic Domains: Greek (New Testament) (electronic ed.). Oak Harbor: Logos Research Systems, Inc.
The knowledge of God should be worth paying for as did our Lord Jesus Christ do for us, he payed with his life to give us life, When we die to self we become more in tune with God and become joint in his suffering, for the Knowledge of God is more important than Silver and Gold, for what is it worth to a man if he gains the whole word but loses his Soul!
7 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge,
But fools despise wisdom and instruction.
The New King James Version. (1982). (Pr 1:7). Nashville: Thomas Nelson.
13 The fear of the LORD is to hate evil;
The New King James Version. (1982). (Pr 8:13). Nashville: Thomas Nelson.
So the reason we Love doing what is evil, is because that is our nature until we learn the beginnings of the knowledge of God. When we understand why Jesus had to die for us.
When we understand from Gods word that Sin is what put Jesus on the cross. We can begin to hate evil knowing that our Creator God had to die for our mistakes learning that we are just as guilty as Adam and Eve, Even as guilty as the synagogue of freedmen(Act 6:8-15).
When we understand that it is our self desires that puts Jesus up on the cross and not blame anyone else for our down fall for we all are just as guilty as one another, then we can start to see Jesus. For the true Knowledge of God is Jesus. Jesus is the beginning of the Knowledge of God.
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God.
The New King James Version. (1982). (Jn 1:1–2). Nashville: Thomas Nelson.
Your Faith is your Knowledge of God! The more faith you hide in your heart the stronger you are against the lies of Satan. The more lies you "cast down" (2 cor 10:5) the more you will Habitually do whats right.
5 But also for this very reason, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue, to virtue knowledge, 6 to knowledge self-control, to self-control perseverance, to perseverance godliness, 7 to godliness brotherly kindness, and to brotherly kindness love. 8 For if these things are yours and abound, you will be neither barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. 9 For he who lacks these things is shortsighted, even to blindness, and has forgotten that he was cleansed from his old sins.The New King James Version. (1982). (2 Pe 1:5–9). Nashville: Thomas Nelson.
Paul tells us:
38 Now the just shall live by faith;
But if anyone draws back,
My soul has no pleasure in him.”
39 But we are not of those who draw back to perdition, but of those who believe to the saving of the soul.
The New King James Version. (1982). (Heb 10:38–39). Nashville: Thomas Nelson.
12 Not that I have already attained, or am already perfected; but I press on, that I may lay hold of that for which Christ Jesus has also laid hold of me. 13 Brethren, I do not count myself to have apprehended; but one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind and reaching forward to those things which are ahead, 14 I press toward the goal for the prize of the upward call of God in Christ Jesus.
The New King James Version. (1982). (Php 3:12–14). Nashville: Thomas Nelson.
I think this is a very good translation of the word "do" with the word " Habitually "4472 ποιέομαι (poieomai), ποιέω (poieō): vb.; Meaning to
behave toward someone in a particular way (Mt 7:12; 1Jn 1:6) Swanson, J. (1997). Dictionary of Biblical Languages with Semantic Domains: Greek (New Testament) (electronic ed.). Oak Harbor: Logos Research Systems, Inc.
The word ("will", "KJV")2527 θέλω (thelō): vb. ("Desire"AMP) be of an opinion, think something to be so (2Pe 3:5+)
Swanson, J. (1997). Dictionary of Biblical Languages with Semantic Domains: Greek (New Testament) (electronic ed.). Oak Harbor: Logos Research Systems, Inc.
If you habitually do what is contrary to your desire !
Paul says:
5 casting down arguments and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God, bringing every thought into captivity to the obedience of Christ, 6 and being ready to punish all disobedience when your obedience is fulfilled.
The New King James Version. (1982). (2 Co 10:5–6). Nashville: Thomas Nelson.
Even though we will always desire evil, God has given us away to deal with bad thoughts, telling us to cast down all arguments that exalt their self against the knowledge of God. So the more "knowledge" of God you have the less you will chose to do wrong and the more habitually you will do right things.
Knowledge of God>
If you seek her as silver,
And search for her as for hidden treasures;
5 Then you will understand the fear of the LORD,
And find the knowledge of God.
The New King James Version. (1982). (Pr 2:4–5). Nashville: Thomas Nelson.
"Seek her as silver" The word "do" again from rom 7:16 can also means: 4472 ποιέομαι (poieomai), ποιέω (poieō): vb.make profit, make money (Lk 19:18);Swanson, J. (1997). Dictionary of Biblical Languages with Semantic Domains: Greek (New Testament) (electronic ed.). Oak Harbor: Logos Research Systems, Inc.
The knowledge of God should be worth paying for as did our Lord Jesus Christ do for us, he payed with his life to give us life, When we die to self we become more in tune with God and become joint in his suffering, for the Knowledge of God is more important than Silver and Gold, for what is it worth to a man if he gains the whole word but loses his Soul!
7 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge,
But fools despise wisdom and instruction.
The New King James Version. (1982). (Pr 1:7). Nashville: Thomas Nelson.
13 The fear of the LORD is to hate evil;
The New King James Version. (1982). (Pr 8:13). Nashville: Thomas Nelson.
So the reason we Love doing what is evil, is because that is our nature until we learn the beginnings of the knowledge of God. When we understand why Jesus had to die for us.
When we understand from Gods word that Sin is what put Jesus on the cross. We can begin to hate evil knowing that our Creator God had to die for our mistakes learning that we are just as guilty as Adam and Eve, Even as guilty as the synagogue of freedmen(Act 6:8-15).
When we understand that it is our self desires that puts Jesus up on the cross and not blame anyone else for our down fall for we all are just as guilty as one another, then we can start to see Jesus. For the true Knowledge of God is Jesus. Jesus is the beginning of the Knowledge of God.
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God.
The New King James Version. (1982). (Jn 1:1–2). Nashville: Thomas Nelson.
Your Faith is your Knowledge of God! The more faith you hide in your heart the stronger you are against the lies of Satan. The more lies you "cast down" (2 cor 10:5) the more you will Habitually do whats right.
5 But also for this very reason, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue, to virtue knowledge, 6 to knowledge self-control, to self-control perseverance, to perseverance godliness, 7 to godliness brotherly kindness, and to brotherly kindness love. 8 For if these things are yours and abound, you will be neither barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. 9 For he who lacks these things is shortsighted, even to blindness, and has forgotten that he was cleansed from his old sins.The New King James Version. (1982). (2 Pe 1:5–9). Nashville: Thomas Nelson.
Paul tells us:
38 Now the just shall live by faith;
But if anyone draws back,
My soul has no pleasure in him.”
39 But we are not of those who draw back to perdition, but of those who believe to the saving of the soul.
The New King James Version. (1982). (Heb 10:38–39). Nashville: Thomas Nelson.
12 Not that I have already attained, or am already perfected; but I press on, that I may lay hold of that for which Christ Jesus has also laid hold of me. 13 Brethren, I do not count myself to have apprehended; but one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind and reaching forward to those things which are ahead, 14 I press toward the goal for the prize of the upward call of God in Christ Jesus.
The New King James Version. (1982). (Php 3:12–14). Nashville: Thomas Nelson.