Can we be forgiven for sins we won't repent of?

[notuptome]

Then you believe that the Lord is against works? I thought that when the Lord told us to repent, along with it was that Christ would forgive and wipe out our sins, that it was all in one package. And I am impressed with the scripture backup for believing in a continual repentance. Have you read those scriptures?

Pr 21:27 The sacrifice of the wicked is abomination: how much more, when he bringeth it with a wicked mind?

Heb 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

What works will produce righteousness? God is worshipped in Spirit and Truth.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[JaumeJ]

We are expected to work after our salvation begins in being available as vessels of God to work His works by His grace.

No matter how it is considered it is of God through us, never by or from us for we can do no favors for our Father except offering Him the sacrifice of thanksgiving.

Yes, we avail ourselves to Him for His work in this age by His grace. No, we cannot dream up any favors for Him. We are the ones in need.

 

[bud62]

The apostle Paul will receive eternal life based on the righteousness which is from God by faith just like all believers will. Philippians 3:9 - and be found in Him, not having my own righteousness, which is from the law, but that which is through faith in Christ, the righteousness which is from God by faith.

All receive Life, BUT Some will be over more then Others , LIKE YESUAH TELLS US,
If we do not obey Paul's epistles. It will be to our own Destruction, AS Peter tells US
2 Peter 3:15 And account [that] the longsuffering of our Lord [is] salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
3:16 As also in all [his] epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest {twist}, as [they do] also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
And I know that All that Paul done, WAS through And BY the spirit of YESUAH,

 

[bud62]

In the context of Luke 13:3, Jesus challenged the people's notion that they were morally superior to those who suffered in such catastrophes. He called all to repent or perish. For some people though, prior to coming to the end result of repentance in receiving salvation (saving faith in Christ), they must change their minds about other specific things in order to get there. Repentance, metanoia, focuses on changing one's mind about his previous concept of God (as in Acts 17:30) and disbelief in God or false beliefs (polytheism and idolatry) about God (see 1 Thessalonians 1:9). On the other hand, this change of mind, focuses on the new direction that change of mind must ultimately take, namely, placing our faith in Jesus Christ as the ALL-sufficient means of our salvation. (Acts 20:21)

Repentance does not equate to sinless perfection or justification by the law. The Greek word for "repent" is "metanoia" (noun) and "matanoeo" (verb) you see as defined in the Strongs #3340, 3341: to think differently or afterwards, reconsider. After thought, change of mind. Repentance basically means a "change of mind" and the context must determine what is involved in this change of mind. Where salvation is in view, repentance actually precedes saving faith in Christ and is not a totally separate act from faith. It is actually the same coin with two sides. Repentance is on one side, what you change your mind about and faith in Christ is on the positive side, the new direction of this change of mind. *Repentance and faith are two sides of the same experience of receiving Christ.

10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
10:27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
10:28 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
10:29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
This Tell US that after we have received the KNOWLEDGE that something is SIN, AND we go ahead and do it, THAT we are LOST, Till GOD GIVE US the REPENTENCE AND THE FAITH TO TURN FROM THAT SIN.
IF we do not GIVE UP THAT SIN< WE WILL BE DESTROYED WITH THE WICKED, SIN IS WICKEDNESS, AND rebellion, AND LOST.

 

[bud62]

Then you believe that the Lord is against works? I thought that when the Lord told us to repent, along with it was that Christ would forgive and wipe out our sins, that it was all in one package. And I am impressed with the scripture backup for believing in a continual repentance. Have you read those scriptures?

THE GRACE THAT HE GIVES US is that YESUAH forgives us the LAWS that WE have broken,
BUT not TO KEEP braking HIS LAWS, IF WE KEEP braking his Laws, THEN WE HAVE NOT REPENTED AT ALL, AND YESUAH TELL THAT IF WE DON'T REPENT, THAT WE WILL PERISH'

 

[bud62]

let's not make salvation actually harder than it was under the old covenant.

Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
THESE people have done more then most Christians,
But they are lost because of INIQUITY, INIQUITY MEANS LAWLESSNESS THEY ARE LOST BECAUSE THAT THEY ARE BRAKING GOD'S LAWS,
AND I THINK THAT IT WAS NOT GOD, THAT DONE THE WORKS THAT THEY DONE,
IT WAS Satan THAT DONE THE WORKS, TO DECEIVE THEM, THAT THEY COULD BE SAVED WHILE THEY WAS WALKING ON GOD'S LAWS. OR NOT KEEPING HIS COMMANDMENTS.
ECCLESIASTES 2:13 Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this [is] the whole [duty] of man.
12:14 For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether [it be] good, or whether [it be] evil.

 

[bud62]

Then you believe that the Lord is against works? I thought that when the Lord told us to repent, along with it was that Christ would forgive and wipe out our sins, that it was all in one package. And I am impressed with the scripture backup for believing in a continual repentance. Have you read those scriptures?

WORKS CAN NOT MAKE ME CLEAN, BECAUSE SIN GIVE ME THE DEATH sentence. JUST ONE LITTLE BITTY SIN, AND NOTHING CAN CLEANS ME OF THAT SIN.
BUT THE BLOOD OF YEAUAH,, BUT AFTER WE GET CLEAN. BY KEEPING THE COMMANDMENTS WE WILL STAY CLEAN, AND IF WE COMMIT SIN AGAIN, WE HAVE SIN AGAIN ON US,
JUST LIKE GETTING BACK in THE MUD, HE SAME WITH SIN , IF YESUAH CLEANS US OF OUR SINS, WE WILL BE CLEAN TILL WE KNOW SOMETHING SIN AND GO AHEAD AND SIN ANYWAY,
COMMITTING SIN THAT WE KNOW IS SIN, MEANS THAT WE NEED TO GET CLEANSED OF OUR SINS AGAIN, IF WE DON'T WE WILL BE LOST AND DESTROYED. IT is THAT SIMPLE,
IF YOU WAS TO KICK ME, AND TELL ME WAS SORRY THAT YOU DID,
THEN KICK ME AGAIN, WOULD YOU THINK THAT WOULD BE BEING SORRY, NO IT NOT. THE SAME WITH YESUAH, WHEN WE TELL JESUS THAT WE ARE SORRY< THEN SIN AGAIN, NO THIS NOT SORRY NOR IS IT REPENTING ETHER,
GOD HELP US ALL TO REPENT, AND TURN FROM OUR SINS, SO THAT WE CAN STAY CLEAN, AFTER WE GET CLEAN.

 

[throughfaith]

Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
THESE people have done more then most Christians,
But they are lost because of INIQUITY, INIQUITY MEANS LAWLESSNESS THEY ARE LOST BECAUSE THAT THEY ARE BRAKING GOD'S LAWS,
AND I THINK THAT IT WAS NOT GOD, THAT DONE THE WORKS THAT THEY DONE,
IT WAS Satan THAT DONE THE WORKS, TO DECEIVE THEM, THAT THEY COULD BE SAVED WHILE THEY WAS WALKING ON GOD'S LAWS. OR NOT KEEPING HIS COMMANDMENTS.
ECCLESIASTES 2:13 Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this [is] the whole [duty] of man.
12:14 For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether [it be] good, or whether [it be] evil.

How could they be ' Christians ' when a) they are false prophets And b) Jesus NEVER knew them ?

What about the fact that people were performing ' casting out demons 'Before Jesus is born . Pharoahs magicians were doing miracles. were they saved?

 

[bud62]

How could they be ' Christians ' when a) they are false prophets And b) Jesus NEVER knew them ?

What about the fact that people were performing ' casting out demons 'Before Jesus is born . Pharoahs magicians were doing miracles. were they saved?

IF YOU READ WHAT I WROTE YOU WILL SEE THAT I BELIEVE Satan done the WORKS TO DECEIVE THEM IN THINKING IT WAS GOD DOING IT FOR THEM<SO THEY WOULD THINK THEY WAS SAVED WHILE THEY ARE BREAKING GOD'S COMMAMDMENTS, IF WE ARE breaking GOD'S Commandments and know it , WE are LOST GOD DOES NOT LIE.
Hebrews 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
10:27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
10:28 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
10:29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?

 

[ForestGreenCook]

Who is Jesus talking to ?
clue : 49Your fathers did eat manna in the wilderness, and are dead.

Your clue is not a clue that does not restrict those that hear and are taught as the people he is talking to.

 

[ForestGreenCook]

let's not make salvation actually harder than it was under the old covenant.

Eternal salvation comes in the same manner in the old testament as it does in the new testament, and that is by being born again with the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. Let's not make it harder than it is.

 

[ForestGreenCook]

Yes that is what was happrnening then . Paul speaks nothing about this in his epistles. Not a single verse about the Father drawing ect .Reformed theology is the same as Catholicism, in that it does not recognise the biblical timelines .

So what's your point? You did not answer my questions.

 

[throughfaith]

Eternal salvation comes in the same manner in the old testament as it does in the new testament, and that is by being born again with the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. Let's not make it harder than it is.

You did not get that from the bible. This is just simply nonsense from reformed teaching .

 

[throughfaith]

Your clue is not a clue that does not restrict those that hear and are taught as the people he is talking to.

Your just revealing how liberal you read the bible. Something is said and you think " yup at all times in the same way ,forever " lol dreadful bible reading

 

[throughfaith]

IF YOU READ WHAT I WROTE YOU WILL SEE THAT I BELIEVE Satan done the WORKS TO DECEIVE THEM IN THINKING IT WAS GOD DOING IT FOR THEM<SO THEY WOULD THINK THEY WAS SAVED WHILE THEY ARE BREAKING GOD'S COMMAMDMENTS, IF WE ARE breaking GOD'S Commandments and know it , WE are LOST GOD DOES NOT LIE.
Hebrews 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
10:27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
10:28 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
10:29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?

Your not rightly dividing.

 

[throughfaith]

Eternal salvation comes in the same manner in the old testament as it does in the new testament, and that is by being born again with the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. Let's not make it harder than it is.

None of the above is referred to in the Old testament.

 

[throughfaith]

Your clue is not a clue that does not restrict those that hear and are taught as the people he is talking to.

Who is he speaking to ?

 

[Duskey]

We are told we can be forgiven for every sin but blasphemy, even for sins we don't know about.

The Sacrificial System was a shadow of Christ. In Leviticus 5:17-18 they were offered forgiveness for sins they weren't aware of committing. Christ gives us forgiveness in a more perfect way. In Psalm 19:12 "Who can discern their own errors? Forgive my hidden faults."

Scripture also states we are to repent. The Lord is aware that we cannot be perfect, we can only repent and give our will to be perfect to the Lord. Can we be forgiven if we will not repent?

Can we be forgiven if we do not will to be perfect, if we don't repent?

Only calvinists are forgiven according to the third post in your thread thereby making the answer to your question yes AND no.

 

[throughfaith]

Your clue is not a clue that does not restrict those that hear and are taught as the people he is talking to.

ok let's get to basics.
Who is God speaking to here?
14Make thee an ark of gopher wood; rooms shalt thou make in the ark, and shalt pitch it within and without with pitch.

a)Donald trump

b) Noah

c ) Adam

d) Gentiles

e) Jews

f) Americans

g ) Napoleon

 

[bud62]

WE will not HAVE SALVATION UNLESS WE OVERCOME. SIN AND THE WORLD, trying to pull us back in to SINNING, CHOOSING TO SIN MEANS THAT WE ARE LOST AND HAVE NOT REALLY REPENTED< NOR HAVE OVERCOME ETHER,
2 Peter 2:14 Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children:
2:15 Which have forsaken the right way, and are gone astray, following the way of Balaam [the son] of Bosor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness;
Paul didn't even his self saved till they was fixing to kill him. When he had endured till they was fixing to kill him, then Paul said I have KEPT THE FAITH I HAVE FAULT A GOOD FIGHT,
JUST LIKE JESUS TELLS US, HE THAT ENDURE UNTILL THE END, AS PAUL TELLS US HERE, SO WHAT PAUL SAYS IS WHAT JESUS SAID,
IT IS NOT ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED , THAT IS A LIE OF SATAN THAT WILL CAUSE MANY MANY MANY TO BE LOST , THINKING THEY CAN BE SAVED WHILE THEY ARE SINNING, AND THEY DEFINITELY CAN NOT !!!