Is it OK to work for the Lord?

[Blik]

When posters mention working for the Lord, the reaction is often that works won’t save, and we are not to be self-righteous.

There are scriptures that back these people up, but many scriptures tell us that working for the Lord is good.

Eph. 2:10 For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.

Psalms 119:18 For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.

The entire beautiful 119th Psalm praises the law that many posters speak against.

How should we consider works?

 

[SoulWeaver]

When posters mention working for the Lord, the reaction is often that works won’t save, and we are not to be self-righteous.

There are scriptures that back these people up, but many scriptures tell us that working for the Lord is good.

Eph. 2:10 For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.

Psalms 119:18 For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.

The entire beautiful 119th Psalm praises the law that many posters speak against.

How should we consider works?

It's all about the attitude, with what kind of mind is it done, it can be completely wrong attitude, or the right attitude.
There needs to be a balance for proper teaching, not to the left not to the right. Some members here rarely speak of anything else except "works" and I think this is what causes such response. I know members who talk about works but also speak about other things. They don't come across as one sided to most.

 

[Blik]

It's all about the attitude, with what kind of mind is it done, it can be completely wrong attitude, or the right attitude.
There needs to be a balance for proper teaching, not to the left not to the right. Some members here rarely speak of anything else except "works" and I think this is what causes such response. I know members who talk about works but also speak about other things. They don't come across as one sided to most.

Such profound thoughts. The Lord is never for extremes I have noticed. The Lord is a master of balance.

Frank Sinatra wasn't speaking of the Lord's ways when he sang "All or nothing at All".

 

[WalkerAllan]

When posters mention working for the Lord, the reaction is often that works won’t save, and we are not to be self-righteous.

There are scriptures that back these people up, but many scriptures tell us that working for the Lord is good.

Eph. 2:10 For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.

Psalms 119:18 For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.

The entire beautiful 119th Psalm praises the law that many posters speak against.

How should we consider works?

It is certainly good to work for the Lord. I think it is even better to work with the Lord.

 

[Blik]

It is certainly good to work for the Lord. I think it is even better to work with the Lord.

And to walk with Him, to live with the Lord in our heart. Well said.

 

[Pilgrimshope]

When posters mention working for the Lord, the reaction is often that works won’t save, and we are not to be self-righteous.

There are scriptures that back these people up, but many scriptures tell us that working for the Lord is good.

Eph. 2:10 For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.

Psalms 119:18 For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.

The entire beautiful 119th Psalm praises the law that many posters speak against.

How should we consider works?

“This is a faithful saying, and these things I will that thou affirm constantly,

that they which have believed in God might be careful to maintain good works.

These things are good and profitable unto men.”
‭‭Titus‬ ‭3:8‬ ‭KJV‬‬

we should see good works that way like Paul taught so very clearly in this verse and others

 

[Pilgrimshope]

When posters mention working for the Lord, the reaction is often that works won’t save, and we are not to be self-righteous.

There are scriptures that back these people up, but many scriptures tell us that working for the Lord is good.

Eph. 2:10 For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.

Psalms 119:18 For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.

The entire beautiful 119th Psalm praises the law that many posters speak against.

How should we consider works?

do you consider this another church member speaking against the law ?

“For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he is a debtor to do the whole law.

Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.”
‭‭Galatians‬ ‭5:3-4‬ ‭KJV‬

“For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.

But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith. And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.”
‭‭Galatians‬ ‭3:10-12‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.

Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭3:19-20‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“For I through the law am dead to the law, that I might live unto God.”
‭‭Galatians‬ ‭2:19‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭7:4‬ ‭KJV‬‬

 

[throughfaith]

When posters mention working for the Lord, the reaction is often that works won’t save, and we are not to be self-righteous.

There are scriptures that back these people up, but many scriptures tell us that working for the Lord is good.

Eph. 2:10 For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.

Psalms 119:18 For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.

The entire beautiful 119th Psalm praises the law that many posters speak against.

How should we consider works?

Looking at the book of philippians is a good example . We have salvation . It cannot be lost ,now let's do something with it . For the furtherance of the gosepl . Not to keep focusing on our needs ( to get saved or stay saved ) but to others that need the message . Timothy here is shown as example by Paul ,after himself and of course Jesus s example . Phil 2

19¶But I trust in the Lord Jesus to send Timotheus shortly unto you, that I also may be of good comfort, when I know your state.

20For I have no man likeminded, who will naturally care for your state.

21For all seek their own, not the things which are Jesus Christ's.

If we hold to loss of salvation you cannot be consistent with the book of phil . The whole focus is on selflessness not selfishness . Any hint of loss of salvation inevitably shifts the focus on ' self ' . Self preservation. So 'Works ' are crucial for the sake of the gosepl . For those that believe and teach loss of salvation, this violates everything Paul says about ' selflessness ' and ' serving ' and forgiveness . Christendom has distorted ' works ' to the extent that people don't know what there supposed to do in sincerity. Many forgive to be forgiven . Work to cover themselves . Work to preserve themselves . This is no different in the world.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

It’s great to work for the lord. He gave you his salvation and wants you to work out what he gave you with fear and trembling

whats not ok is to work in order to earn salvation, ,keep it or maintain it, and it is very dangerous to do what many do and try to work out the law after they have come to christl. Study it? Of course. Work at it? It Stunts your growth

 

[Blik]

It’s great to work for the lord. He gave you his salvation and wants you to work out what he gave you with fear and trembling

whats not ok is to work in order to earn salvation, ,keep it or maintain it, and it is very dangerous to do what many do and try to work out the law after they have come to christl. Study it? Of course. Work at it? It Stunts your growth

All 176 verses of the 119th psalm were from the Lord, each one praises work. Not one of these verses tell us how dangerous it is to work.

Did you read a scripture telling you that to work is dangerous? I have read scripture telling that to love is to work and obey, not one telling us not to work because of the danger in work.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

All 176 verses of the 119th psalm were from the Lord, each one praises work. Not one of these verses tell us how dangerous it is to work.

Did you read a scripture telling you that to work is dangerous? I have read scripture telling that to love is to work and obey, not one telling us not to work because of the danger in work.

I never stated it was dangerous to work

you my friend have to got stop misrepresenting what others say. You sit here and for months have insisted we need to work at the law, yet you continually break the commandment that says “thou shalt not bear false witness“

 

[mailmandan]

There needs to be a balance for proper teaching, not to the left not to the right. .

As long as we properly understand that we are saved FOR good works and NOT BY good works (Ephesians 2:8-10) we remain in balance, unlike those who teach salvation by faith and works or salvation by grace plus law, faith plus works.

Romans 3:24 - being justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, 25 whom God set forth as a propitiation by His blood, through faith, to demonstrate His righteousness, because in His forbearance God had passed over the sins that were previously committed, 26 to demonstrate at the present time His righteousness, that He might be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus. 27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? Of works? No, but by the law of faith. 28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith apart from the deeds of the law.

Matthew 5:16 - Let your light shine before men in such a way that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father who is in heaven.

1 Corinthians 15:58 - Therefore, my beloved brethren, be steadfast, immovable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, knowing that your labor is not in vain in the Lord.

 

[Blackpowderduelist]

You mis-characterize the conversation which is dishonest. It's not when ever work is mentioned. It is when ever work is placed into the salvation context. We all do work for the Lord. We all resist sin, pray, study the word, try to be a witness, show compassion, and speak correction. We all minister and teach. So don't come with false underhanded accusations. Your works will not excuse your falsehood.

 

[bud62]

When posters mention working for the Lord, the reaction is often that works won’t save, and we are not to be self-righteous.
Things that we Do in our self are filthy TO GOD, But obey is A must, A covenant has TWO PARTS, Our part is GOD'S Commandments, To break the Commandments is breaking your Covenant with GOD.
REV 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here [are] they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus. This tells us that it's A requirement for GOD'S people.

REV 22:14 Blessed [are] they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

This tell that they are keeping them that they mite BE saved, And it does not say, no one else is saved ether.

REV 12:17 And the Dragon {= Satan } was wroth with the woman { = the church}, and went to make war with the remnant {= GOD'S SAINTS} of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
Why do you you think Satan is making war with those that are keeping GOD'S Commandments ???
It is because Satan knows that they are obeying GOD, And will BE SAVED, if He does not get them to DISOBEY GOD'S Commandments, Satan knows that the commandments is our part of our COVENANT, to GOD, And Satan knows that by Getting US to break GOD'S commandments, WE break our COVENANT with GOD.
AND will be LOST , IF He can keep US from repenting and obeying GOD'S commandments AGAIN,


There are scriptures that back these people up, but many scriptures tell us that working for the Lord is good.
ALL scriptures tell us that doing the work of GOD is GOOD'
The only WAY they don't, is because we ARE MISS understanding what they are saying, When the BIBLE don't agree all the way through, it is because we HAVE THE wrong DOCTRINING and are looking at what they say the wrong WAY

Eph. 2:10 For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do. AMEN

Psalms 119:18 For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do. AMEN AND AMEN

The entire beautiful 119th Psalm praises the law that many posters speak against.

How should we consider works?

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Another lawyer who does not understand the law

 

[notuptome]

We do not work for the Lord. We can do nothing for the Lord.

Anything that is done is done by the Lord working through us. We must cease from our efforts and allow Him to work through us. What is done is done by Him and not us. It is His glory to accomplish His will through us.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[mailmandan]

We do not work for the Lord. We can do nothing for the Lord.

Anything that is done is done by the Lord working through us. We must cease from our efforts and allow Him to work through us. What is done is done by Him and not us. It is His glory to accomplish His will through us.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

John 15:5 - I am the vine, you are the branches. He who abides in Me, and I in him, bears much fruit; for without Me you can do nothing.

Philippians 2:13 - For it is God who works in you both to will and to do for His good pleasure.

 

[pottersclay]

When posters mention working for the Lord, the reaction is often that works won’t save, and we are not to be self-righteous.

There are scriptures that back these people up, but many scriptures tell us that working for the Lord is good.

Eph. 2:10 For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.

Psalms 119:18 For we are God’s handiwork, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.

The entire beautiful 119th Psalm praises the law that many posters speak against.

How should we consider works?

Your works are to magnify and glorify your father in heaven.

(On a side note)
How much a hour are you or they getting paid? I don't know if I should ask for a raise because of that benefit package that's offered is out of this world😂😂😂😂

 

[Pilgrimshope]

It’s great to work for the lord. He gave you his salvation and wants you to work out what he gave you with fear and trembling

whats not ok is to work in order to earn salvation, ,keep it or maintain it, and it is very dangerous to do what many do and try to work out the law after they have come to christl. Study it? Of course. Work at it? It Stunts your growth

the difference is what works we do . The law doesn’t really teach any good works .
not committing adultery isn’t a good work it’s a command not to do bad works .

in fact there are very little good works in the law it’s mostly “ don’t do this evil thing or you must surely be put to death by the others among you “

good works that God approves regard true godly love tone another they take the form like this

“Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat:

I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.

Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink? When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee? Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee? And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭25:34-40‬ ‭

the law doesn’t teach people those things those good works and it’s not that they don’t apply to salvation brother because look at the difference in what the others didn’t do and where thier rewatd is

“Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not. Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee? Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.

And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭25:41-46‬ ‭

the only difference is what they did , thier good works or refusal to do them they all called him lord but based on thier actions toward other people in need , determined whether they received the kingdom of God or whether they received the devils eternal inheritance

The works of the law aren’t the good works Christians are to be careful tommaintain those works look like this

It’s about the actions produced by Gods love


“Hereby perceive we the love of God, because he laid down his life for us: and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren.

But whoso hath this world's good, and seeth his brother have need, and shutteth up his bowels of compassion from him, how dwelleth the love of God in him?

My little children, let us not love in word, neither in tongue; but in deed and in truth. And hereby we know that we are of the truth, and shall assure our hearts before him.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭3:16-19‬ ‭KJV‬‬

We need repentance and belief of the things Jesus taught because this is true

“But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God; Who will render to every man according to his deeds:

To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:

But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath, Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;

But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile: For there is no respect of persons with God.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭2:5-11‬ ‭KJV‬‬

It’s not about the law of Moses it’s about the law of Christ the gospel that teaches us to love others with Gods love If we’re like the priests who saw the man in great need and pass on by ignoring him were not going to inherit the kingdom but if we follow after the example of the Good Samaritan and go help him in his need those are the citizens of the kingdom who walk the walk and don’t deny thier confession with thier deeds

 

[tourist]

No matter who was my employer or what my position was I always considered God to be my employer.