If a Sabbath is forced, Will you keep Sunday holy?

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So the catholic Church will have power like they had 1000 years ago and force all Christians to observe Sabbath on a Sunday? Sorry, i'm trying to understand
The Pope has already had a meeting with almost all the religious leaders of the world. This happened in Sept. of this year
The purpose was to unite all religions under 1 banner, 1 god. This also included the leaders of Protestant religions. Welcome
to the 1 world religion!
 
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The deadly wound didn't till 1798, So it has not been that long Less then 300, But the BIBLE TELLS us that he ruled 1260 YEARS, HE started ruling in 538ad till 1798 ad just like the BIBLE says, But the BIBLE SAYS that the deadly wound would be healed, and it is and coming in POWER FAST
The deadly wound was healed when the Pope was reinstated in the early 1900's
 
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I fully agree with your estimation.
How does everyone explain away Jesus saying "If you love me you will keep my commandments"?
There is a big difference between the law & ?His Commandments"
Please don't use the old covenant vs the new covenant argument. old=written in stone, new=written in our hearts
 

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How does everyone explain away Jesus saying "If you love me you will keep my commandments"?
There is a big difference between the law & ?His Commandments"
Please don't use the old covenant vs the new covenant argument. old=written in stone, new=written in our hearts

The law by itself does not save, but rather it kills. It is by the shed blood of Jesus dying on the cross for our confessed sins that make salvation possible.

If the 10 Commandments are summed up by the two greatest commandments then it stands to reason that the 10 commandments must still be in effect.
 
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Why do people automatically label anyone who follows the Sabbath, a 7th day Adventist? Most that keep the Sabbath are S.D.A.
I would like to find me A good HOME Church

I do my best to follow the commandments as Jesus told us to do. We haft to keep commandments if we want to be saved, the commandments is our part of our Covenant, to break the commandments is to break our covenant with GOD.
Rev 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here [are] they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

"If you love me you will keep my commandments" Amen and amen

I am not a 7th Day Adventist & I do not label them as a cult, which most self proclaimed christians do. The ones that are the close to YESUAH, is the ones that Satan is after the most,

Rev 12:17 And the dragon = { Satan } was wroth with the woman,= {GOD'SCHURCH} and went to make war with the remnant = {GOD'S SAINTS } of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

They are just another denomination & all are the works of Satan to divide the Church
TO compromise IS to BE lost, GOD'S people haft to stand on what the BIBLE says, THAT is part of putting GOD first
 
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The law by itself does not save, but rather it kills. It is by the shed blood of Jesus dying on the cross for our confessed sins that make salvation possible.

If the 10 Commandments are summed up by the two greatest commandments then it stands to reason that the 10 commandments must still be in effect.
YES they ARE, We wouldn't SIN without the LAW,

It takes breaking the laws to be SIN. The wages for sin is death, IT is not the law it's self, that kills, BUT for breaking the law.
 
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i don't care if you celebrate it or not, but don't bash others that do.

and you did not address what i said- you were born on a day in a month , both named after a pagan god in a calendar created by a pope.

if you do not celebrate Christmas, then don't have a birthday either...
for me to not have a birthday, would be next to impossible.
so i guess that applies to you, and everyone else, as well, correct ?
 
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only Israel was given the Law. gentiles were and are never under it, and were never commanded to keep the Sabbath.
Sorry but you are wrong! Jesus said clearly if you love me you will keep my commandments. Is there some part of this you don't comprehend? There is a huge difference between the law & His commandments. The only laws that were nailed to the cross were all the ceremonial laws that had to do with sacrifice. Simply because, He/Yashuah was the ultimate sacrifice & these laws were needed no more. God/YAHUAH is the same yesterday, today & tomorrow. He does not change. Old covenant=law written in stone New covenant=law written in our hearts. Very simple, The Church/Roman Catholic has changed God's law, His Calendar, His feast days, & all protestant churches followed suit. We can make excuses until the end but, He will be the judge we all stand before. Then you can tell Him why you didn't follow his commandments. As for me & my house we will do our best to follow his Commandments for they are not burdensome.
 
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Saturday worship or Sunday worship are equally bad. Try to focus on the 4th commandment instead of arguing over Saturday/Sunday. Problem solved, for good.
so what, worship everyday of the week ? i guess saturday, or sunday is most convenient, for all believers to meet at the same time.
 
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Why do people automatically label anyone who follows the Sabbath, a 7th day Adventist?
I do my best to follow the commandments as Jesus told us to do.
"If you love me you will keep my commandments"
I am not a 7th Day Adventist & I do not label them as a cult, which most self proclaimed christians do.
They are just another denomination & all are the works of satan to divide the Church
the sda's are a funny bunch. i've been to two church services, one for my mum's friend, and one for me to meet someone. and recently, i had a bible study with one young guy. he didn't pester me as such, but i couldn't agree with him, that saturday was the sabbath. well, that saturday was specified in the bible, as being the sabbath. my "opinion" is they are a bit misguided, but good for them.
 
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The Pope has already had a meeting with almost all the religious leaders of the world. This happened in Sept. of this year
The purpose was to unite all religions under 1 banner, 1 god. This also included the leaders of Protestant religions. Welcome
to the 1 world religion!
was that a news story ?
 
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First.... i'm sorry for capitalizing god, i made a mistake.
The point i'm making is that sunday worship is a tradition that has it's roots in pagan worship of the sun. It isn't seen that way today because time has made us ignorant to this, but the reason was pagan and it is a tradition followed today.
There is no biblical reason to worship on Sunday, It was not made holy, sanctified and we were not asked to remember it as the holy day of rest. It is tradition.
When God said to Adam and eve that one tree was not to be eaten from. Does that mean i can ignore which tree was pointed out and eat from all trees or no trees. It is worth taking note which day God asked us to keep holy. To say any day will do, or every day is the same or it doesn't matter which day is presumption and we know what presumption has lead to in the past.

Satan set up a counterfeit system in Alexandria and Rome. Alexandria was the place for worldly 'learned men', and was also the place where Jews were compromising with pagan philosophy. The city of Rome was the 'world capital' for paganism, which ended up influencing the church at Rome. Then, an alliance was made between Alexandria and Rome. So what was the result of this? The day of the sun god (Sunday) became the day to honor in place of God's holy 7th day Sabbath. The bishops of Rome come into the picture and from the height of their pedestal of influence, push both the desires of the pagan emperors and the methods of Alexandria's evangelism out to the world. A weekly holiday sacred to the worship of the sun, is honored instead of God's holy 7th day Sabbath.
Exactly, anyone who cares, can do a simple study of History & find this to be a fact. I will also add that Constantine who was the Emperor of Rome & the most powerful man on the planet, would take anyone who defied this edict & burn them at the stake & take all their possessions. He also had all previous scriptural writings destroyed & replaced with the newer versions.
 

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The Pope has already had a meeting with almost all the religious leaders of the world. This happened in Sept. of this year
The purpose was to unite all religions under 1 banner, 1 god. This also included the leaders of Protestant religions. Welcome
to the 1 world religion!
Phew! Good thing I'm neither a catholic nor a protestant!
 

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The Pope has already had a meeting with almost all the religious leaders of the world. This happened in Sept. of this year
The purpose was to unite all religions under 1 banner, 1 god. This also included the leaders of Protestant religions. Welcome
to the 1 world religion!
Source (please)?
 

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gentiles are and were never under the Law, and were never commanded to keep the Sabbath.

if you judeaizers would do a little history research, you would know that roman general pompey , when his army conquered Jerusalem, he went into the Holy of Holies , and came back out. nothing happened.

why? as a roman, he was never commanded not to, was not under the Law....
 

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The Bible also says we overcome through Him.



Romans 10:4:)
Amen! 1 John 5:4 - For whatever is born of God overcomes the world. And this is the victory that has overcome the world—our faith. :)
 
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There are A lot of BIBLE to back up what I said, Even YESUAH tells US.
John 8:34 Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.

That is what YESUAH is working on US for, That We will become like HIM and quit choosing to, But be Like HIM and the reformers, like CHRIST THEY chose TO DIE rather then to sin,

If YESUAH gets us to where will not chose to SIN, Then YESUAH will stand for US in the Judgement, IF we don't come to OBEDIENCE. Then we will haft to bear our SIN, And the WAGES of our Sins is DEATH,

! John 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

1 John 2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:

Ezekiel 3:21 Nevertheless if thou warn the righteous [man], that the righteous sin not, and he doth not sin, he shall surely live, because he is warned; also thou hast delivered thy soul.
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Ezekiel 18:24 But when the righteous turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, [and] doeth according to all the abominations that the wicked [man] doeth, shall he live? All his righteousness that he hath done shall not be mentioned: in his trespass that he hath trespassed, and in his sin that he hath sinned, in them shall he die.

There are no verses to back it up.

You are not your own savior and speaking of verses, John (you may remember him as the disciple Jesus loved?) says you are a liar.

Don't quote OT verses. We are no longer under the law if we have accepted the Lord Jesus Christ as our Savior. You are a false teacher if you tell people they can be sinless or tell them the law applies to them.
 
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If YESUAH gets us to where will not chose to SIN, Then YESUAH will stand for US in the Judgement, IF we don't come to OBEDIENCE. Then we will haft to bear our SIN, And the WAGES of our Sins is DEATH,
This is nonsense and not even half true. If the Apostle John says we are a liar if we say we never sin, then I accept that as truth. Jesus died in our place so we do not have to 'bear' our sins.

You are not teaching the gospel. What you present is a false Jesus and a false interpretation of the gospel.
 

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You are not teaching the gospel. What you present is a false Jesus and a false interpretation of the gospel.
What he presents is "salvation by grace plus law, faith plus works." (Galatians 1:6-9)