Is the law a blessing or a curse?

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eternally-gratefull

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Paul is hard to understand, and man has distorted his word, and you are clearing up one of the major distortions of Paul.

Paul calls these cancelled commands that were given to help the Hebrews learn about and obey the true law schoolmasters. A schoolmaster is not the knowledge he gives, it is a teacher of the knowledge. These commands given to teach the Israelites. The teachers are done away with, not what the teachers taught. Yet people are saying God means to do away with everything the schoolmaster taught. That is wrong.
Yes, you have distorted his word.
 

Blik

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The law of Moses is a package, we do not break it up because we want to keep some of it,you keep it all or you have not kept the law, period

watering down the law is not what God had in mind
The law is not a package. There are laws of nature, eternal laws, commands given to help understand the law, laws in stone, and laws given in our hearts. There are laws that are like schoolmasters: teachers of law. You are mixing them up with eternal law.
 

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The law is not a package. There are laws of nature, eternal laws, commands given to help understand the law, laws in stone, and laws given in our hearts. There are laws that are like schoolmasters: teachers of law. You are mixing them up with eternal law.
Blik, normally I try to avoid being blunt, but I see no better option here; YOU are the one mixing things up.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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The law is not a package. There are laws of nature, eternal laws, commands given to help understand the law, laws in stone, and laws given in our hearts. There are laws that are like schoolmasters: teachers of law. You are mixing them up with eternal law.
The law given to Israel by Moses including the ten commands are a complete package. We do bot break it up to fit our belief system
 

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The law of Moses is a package, we do not break it up because we want to keep some of it,you keep it all or you have not kept the law, period

watering down the law is not what God had in mind
I just keep what Jesus told me to if you love me keep my commandments and he never said otherwise.
 

echoChrist

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The law has vanished

obtaining righteousness. Or learning righteousness from thenlaw has vanished. Because it was not made for that purpose.

paul call the ten commands the ministers of death.

why would he say such a thing?
Thats called being under condemnation for sin but haven't you heard the good news sin and death have been defeated.
 

echoChrist

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Yet you can physically keep the holy commands, yet still break them.
jesus tried to show this on the sermon on the Mount when he said thenlaw says but I tell you thenlaw is not perfect. It can not show you every sin, or even how to keep each command, that’s why we are to walk away from it land move to a far better law
And yet Jesus said if you love me keep my commandments still gonna do what the Lord said.
 

echoChrist

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Naah I'm just focused on preserving the truth and clearing pollution from the gospel.
 

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Blik, normally I try to avoid being blunt, but I see no better option here; YOU are the one mixing things up.
Sorry. You usually read scripture accurately, this time you have missed it. Scripture is accurate and tells the truth as it is, we have only to accept it. This time it is quite important, for we are not to say that the Lord has cancelled His instructions to us, and saying the schoolmaster means making all law of no use to us is quite serious. It even means that you are saying that God speaks with a forked tongue, for other scriptures say the law is written in stone, it cannot be erased.

The law can be told in our hearts or in stone, in our hearts is more accurate but does not cancel the law. But you and many others are convinced in your minds of your opinion of scripture, and you are still convinced that Christ forgives sin. That is the important understanding, and you have that.
 

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Sorry. You usually read scripture accurately, this time you have missed it.
I'm not the one conflating "natural laws" (physical constants) with the Law as given to Israel through Moses.

Scripture is accurate and tells the truth as it is, we have only to accept it. This time it is quite important, for we are not to say that the Lord has cancelled His instructions to us, and saying the schoolmaster means making all law of no use to us is quite serious. It even means that you are saying that God speaks with a forked tongue, for other scriptures say the law is written in stone, it cannot be erased.
Garbage.

Learn what the Scripture says, and what it means, and stop accusing others of saying things they haven't said.

The law can be told in our hearts or in stone, in our hearts is more accurate but does not cancel the law. But you and many others are convinced in your minds of your opinion of scripture, and you are still convinced that Christ forgives sin. That is the important understanding, and you have that.
The SCRIPTURE tells us that the old covenant is cancelled. Deal with it.
 

echoChrist

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I'm not the one conflating "natural laws" (physical constants) with the Law as given to Israel through Moses.


Garbage.

Learn what the Scripture says, and what it means, and stop accusing others of saying things they haven't said.


The SCRIPTURE tells us that the old covenant is cancelled. Deal with it.
Old covenant cancelled yes God's commandments cancelled no just say amen it's so whether you do or not.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Look up ordinance

Oh so I guess your saying Moses wrote ten commandments with his finger in stone sorry not the story I read.
Moses did make up any of the law. Yet it including the ten commands is called the law of Moses.

try to th o the next time you want to mock someone
 
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eternally-gratefull

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I just keep what Jesus told me to if you love me keep my commandments and he never said otherwise.
Yep
he has given many commands throughout the whole bible

the issue is, how do we keep,them?

that’s where lawyers fall short.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Thats called being under condemnation for sin but haven't you heard the good news sin and death have been defeated.
Yep, it has

he gave us a better way, it’s called the law of love. I am sure you have heard of it, seek after the things of the spirit. Etc etc.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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And yet Jesus said if you love me keep my commandments still gonna do what the Lord said.
He is not talking about the law there

jesus did not co trading himself