Is the law a blessing or a curse?

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eternally-gratefull

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I don't mind the things of the flesh I mind the things of the Spirit.
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Ah so you think your sinless?

John said if we say we have no sin we decieve ourselves,

john said it not me
 
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eternally-gratefull

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echoChrist said:
Sorry have to go by what Holy scripture says not man.
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Yet your not going by what the s ruptures say, you going by what you think they say
 
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eternally-gratefull

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echoChrist said:
Naah I'm just focused on preserving the truth and clearing pollution from the gospel.
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another know it all who is going to come put us all in our place

wow
 
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eternally-gratefull

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echoChrist said:
Old covenant cancelled yes God's commandments cancelled no just say amen it's so whether you do or not.
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if You think you are going to be righteous and spiritually mature by following the commands of the law of Moses. You will fail miserably, jut like the jews did
 
Dino246

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echoChrist said:
Old covenant cancelled yes God's commandments cancelled no just say amen it's so whether you do or not.
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I'm not going to play your "Just say amen" game. It's manipulative, unbiblical, and stupid.
 
echoChrist

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eternally-gratefull said:
if You think you are going to be righteous and spiritually mature by following the commands of the law of Moses. You will fail miserably, jut like the jews did
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I live in life in Christ for that so let's just leave it at this you have your one commandment of love that you live by and thats fine its your choice and I will live by God's many precepts he has left everyone who choose to live a Godly life.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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echoChrist said:
I live in life in Christ for that so let's just leave it at this you have your one commandment of love that you live by and thats fine its your choice and I will live by God's many precepts he has left everyone who choose to live a Godly life.
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Here is the difference

the Bible says you will fail your way

Jesus said ALL the law and prophets are fulfilled in the two commands of love

i am trying to help you, but if you want to try it the Jewish way feel free
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
another know it all who is going to come put us all in our place

wow
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[Oh one more thing very crucial if your faith hangs on the one commandment of love or two the new path I think your fellow followers call it which is love your God with all your heart and love your neighbor as thyself how can you love your God if your not doing what Jesus said] (Matthew 14:15,21,24) 15 If you love me, keep my commandments. 21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him. 24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.[ Now this was right before Jesus's crucifixion he knew was imminent so I think this was important message.]
 
echoChrist

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eternally-gratefull said:
Here is the difference

the Bible says you will fail your way

Jesus said ALL the law and prophets are fulfilled in the two commands of love

i am trying to help you, but if you want to try it the Jewish way feel free
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No love is the achievement of keeping God's word and commandments some just misinterpret that verse like many other verses.
 
Blik

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Dino246 said:
I'm not the one conflating "natural laws" (physical constants) with the Law as given to Israel through Moses.


Garbage.

Learn what the Scripture says, and what it means, and stop accusing others of saying things they haven't said.


The SCRIPTURE tells us that the old covenant is cancelled. Deal with it.
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Blik

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Dino246 said:
I'm not the one conflating "natural laws" (physical constants) with the Law as given to Israel through Moses.


Garbage.

Learn what the Scripture says, and what it means, and stop accusing others of saying things they haven't said.


The SCRIPTURE tells us that the old covenant is cancelled. Deal with it.
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Scripture is NOT garbage. The law is eternal. The Lord gave some commands that act as schoolteachers to lead to the law, and those commands were not the law. The Lord then gave the law in our hearts, not needing a schoolteacher. Fleshly circumcision was one of these schoolteacher commands. God made the "schoolteacher" laws obsolete, but to say all law is obsolete because the schoolteacher laws are is wrong. This is not garbage, it is scripture.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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echoChrist said:
[Oh one more thing very crucial if your faith hangs on the one commandment of love or two the new path I think your fellow followers call it which is love your God with all your heart and love your neighbor as thyself how can you love your God if your not doing what Jesus said] (Matthew 14:15,21,24) 15 If you love me, keep my commandments. 21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him. 24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.[ Now this was right before Jesus's crucifixion he knew was imminent so I think this was important message.]
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1. I have no followers. Where did you get all of this pride?
2. we do not call it that, Jesus did, and we follow Jesus, he does not follow us
3. if we love God and Love our neighbor, (in the law your neighbor was your fellow jew. In the NT your neighborhood is anyone including you enemy) you will by practice, keep his commands,
4. does this love come from us? No, we love because he first loved us, does it come fro the law? No, the law exposes our sin to lead is to Christ, Ournlove comes from Christ,

you want to go back to law. Feel free.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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echoChrist said:
No love is the achievement of keeping God's word and commandments some just misinterpret that verse like many other verses.
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that’s not what the Bible says,

the Bible says we love because he first loved us

and it says if we love, we will by practice keep his commands (more aptly, we will not break them by practice)

you have obedience coming first, you have it backwards
 
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eternally-gratefull

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echoChrist said:
Just say amen you know you want to.
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Why would we want to say amen to a pharisee type of argument? Jesus called them out for thinking that way,
 
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