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Nehemiah6

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...was actually the preferred Bible of the pilgrims & puritans. not to mention Wycliffe, Darby, Tyndale... ???
1. The Geneva Bible came long after Wycliffe, who had made his own translation from the Latin Vulgate.

2. William Tyndale was well-versed in both Hebrew and Greek, therefore he made a fresh translation which was largely used by the King James translators. Also this long before the Geneva Bible.

3. Darby was a fan of Westcott & Hort, and his translation slavishly follows their corrupt Greek text. He has nothing to do with the Geneva Bible.

4. Yes, the Geneva Bible was the preferred bible of the Puritans and the Calvinists. But in the end if fell into disuse for two reasons: (1) it is not as good an English translation as the Authorized Version and (2) its Calvinistic bias made it unacceptable to non-Calvinists,

5. Ultimately the King James Bible became "the" English Bible throughout the English-speaking world and the British empire (for over 300 years) because of its intrinsic excellence and faithfulness to the original Hebrew and Greek. All commentaries until the 20th century are based on this Bible, and none of the commentators every questioned its integrity.

6. Had Westcott & Hort and their co-conspirators in the 19th century not had a nefarious agenda to dethrone this Bible, and replace it with a corrupted bible (The Revised Version or RV), the KJV would have been honestly revised by 1881, with as few changes are were necessary to update it. That was the original plan of the Revision Committee of the Church of England, and it was sabotaged by W&H. For full details study The Revision Revised by Dean John William Burgon (an outstanding textual scholar in his own right).
 

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Numbers 23 (King James Bible)

22God brought them out of Egypt; he hath as it were the strength of an unicorn.

Numbers 24 (King James Bible)

8God brought him forth out of Egypt; he hath as it were the strength of an unicorn: he shall eat up the nations his enemies, and shall break their bones, and pierce them through with his arrows.

Deuteronomy 33 (King James Bible)

17His glory is like the firstling of his bullock, and his horns are like the horns of unicorns: with them he shall push the people together to the ends of the earth: and they are the ten thousands of Ephraim, and they are the thousands of Manasseh.

Job 39 (King James Bible)

9Will the unicorn be willing to serve thee, or abide by thy crib? 10Canst thou bind the unicorn with his band in the furrow? or will he harrow the valleys after thee? 11Wilt thou trust him, because his strength is great? or wilt thou leave thy labour to him? 12Wilt thou believe him, that he will bring home thy seed, and gather it into thy barn?

Psalm 22 (King James Bible)

21Save me from the lion's mouth: for thou hast heard me from the horns of the unicorns.

Psalm 29 (King James Bible)

6He maketh them also to skip like a calf; Lebanon and Sirion like a young unicorn.

Psalm 92 (King James Bible)

10But my horn shalt thou exalt like the horn of an unicorn: I shall be anointed with fresh oil.

Isaiah 34 (King James Bible)

7And the unicorns shall come down with them, and the bullocks with the bulls; and their land shall be soaked with blood, and their dust made fat with fatness.
what do the other versions say? Just curious.
During the 17th, 18th, 19th and 20th centuries the British justified fighting a litany of British empire wars (also against fellow believers of other Bible texts) under the authority of the KJV "unicorn" bible. The animal referred to was changed from the Zionist ( http://bit.ly/Christianzionism ) Rothschild's and (king James') British monarch's family crests mystical, mythical corrupted horse type "unicorn" in the KJV, to a genuine God created bovine type "wild ox" / "wild oxen" in the NKJV.

Numbers 23 (King James Bible)

22God brought them out of Egypt; he hath as it were the strength of an unicorn.

Numbers 23 (New King James Version)

22God brings them out of Egypt; He has strength like a wild ox.

(King James Bible)

8God brought him forth out of Egypt; he hath as it were the strength of an unicorn: he shall eat up the nations his enemies, and shall break their bones, and pierce them through with his arrows.

Numbers 24 (New King James Version)

8“God brings him out of Egypt; He has strength like a wild ox; He shall consume the nations, his enemies; He shall break their bones And pierce them with his arrows.

Deuteronomy 33 (King James Bible)

17His glory is like the firstling of his bullock, and his horns are like the horns of unicorns: with them he shall push the people together to the ends of the earth: and they are the ten thousands of Ephraim, and they are the thousands of Manasseh.

Deuteronomy 33 (New King James Version)

17His glory is like a firstborn bull, And his horns like the horns of the wild ox; Together with them He shall push the peoples To the ends of the earth; They are the ten thousands of Ephraim, And they are the thousands of Manasseh.”

Job 39 (King James Bible)

9Will the unicorn be willing to serve thee, or abide by thy crib? 10Canst thou bind the unicorn with his band in the furrow? or will he harrow the valleys after thee? 11Wilt thou trust him, because his strength is great? or wilt thou leave thy labour to him? 12Wilt thou believe him, that he will bring home thy seed, and gather it into thy barn?

Job 39 (New King James Version)

9“Will the wild ox be willing to serve you? Will he bed by your manger? 10Can you bind the wild ox in the furrow with ropes? Or will he plow the valleys behind you? 11Will you trust him because his strength is great? Or will you leave your labor to him? 12Will you trust him to bring home your [d]grain, And gather it to your threshing floor?

Psalm 22 (King James Bible)

21Save me from the lion's mouth: for thou hast heard me from the horns of the unicorns.

Psalm 22 (New King James Version)

21Save Me from the lion’s mouth And from the horns of the wild oxen! You have answered Me.

Psalm 29 (King James Bible)

6He maketh them also to skip like a calf; Lebanon and Sirion like a young unicorn.

Psalm 29 (New King James Version)

6He makes them also skip like a calf, Lebanon and Sirion like a young wild ox.

Psalm 92 (King James Bible)

10But my horn shalt thou exalt like the horn of an unicorn: I shall be anointed with fresh oil.

Psalm 92 (New King James Version)

10But my horn You have exalted like a wild ox; I have been anointed with fresh oil.

Isaiah 34 (King James Bible)

7And the unicorns shall come down with them, and the bullocks with the bulls; and their land shall be soaked with blood, and their dust made fat with fatness.

Isaiah 34 (New King James Version)

7The wild oxen shall come down with them, And the young bulls with the mighty bulls; Their land shall be soaked with blood, And their dust saturated with fatness.”
 
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During the 17th, 18th, 19th and 20th centuries the British justified fighting a litany of British empire wars (also against fellow believers of other Bible texts) under the authority of the KJV "unicorn" bible. The animal referred to was changed from the Zionist ( http://bit.ly/Christianzionism ) Rothschild's and (king James') British monarch's family crests mystical, mythical corrupted horse type "unicorn" in the KJV, to a genuine God created bovine type "wild ox" / "wild oxen" in the NKJV.

Numbers 23 (King James Bible)

22God brought them out of Egypt; he hath as it were the strength of an unicorn.

Numbers 23 (New King James Version)

22God brings them out of Egypt; He has strength like a wild ox.

(King James Bible)

8God brought him forth out of Egypt; he hath as it were the strength of an unicorn: he shall eat up the nations his enemies, and shall break their bones, and pierce them through with his arrows.

Numbers 24 (New King James Version)

8“God brings him out of Egypt; He has strength like a wild ox; He shall consume the nations, his enemies; He shall break their bones And pierce them with his arrows.

Deuteronomy 33 (King James Bible)

17His glory is like the firstling of his bullock, and his horns are like the horns of unicorns: with them he shall push the people together to the ends of the earth: and they are the ten thousands of Ephraim, and they are the thousands of Manasseh.

Deuteronomy 33 (New King James Version)

17His glory is like a firstborn bull, And his horns like the horns of the wild ox; Together with them He shall push the peoples To the ends of the earth; They are the ten thousands of Ephraim, And they are the thousands of Manasseh.”

Job 39 (King James Bible)

9Will the unicorn be willing to serve thee, or abide by thy crib? 10Canst thou bind the unicorn with his band in the furrow? or will he harrow the valleys after thee? 11Wilt thou trust him, because his strength is great? or wilt thou leave thy labour to him? 12Wilt thou believe him, that he will bring home thy seed, and gather it into thy barn?

Job 39 (New King James Version)

9“Will the wild ox be willing to serve you? Will he bed by your manger? 10Can you bind the wild ox in the furrow with ropes? Or will he plow the valleys behind you? 11Will you trust him because his strength is great? Or will you leave your labor to him? 12Will you trust him to bring home your [d]grain, And gather it to your threshing floor?

Psalm 22 (King James Bible)

21Save me from the lion's mouth: for thou hast heard me from the horns of the unicorns.

Psalm 22 (New King James Version)

21Save Me from the lion’s mouth And from the horns of the wild oxen! You have answered Me.

Psalm 29 (King James Bible)

6He maketh them also to skip like a calf; Lebanon and Sirion like a young unicorn.

Psalm 29 (New King James Version)

6He makes them also skip like a calf, Lebanon and Sirion like a young wild ox.

Psalm 92 (King James Bible)

10But my horn shalt thou exalt like the horn of an unicorn: I shall be anointed with fresh oil.

Psalm 92 (New King James Version)

10But my horn You have exalted like a wild ox; I have been anointed with fresh oil.

Isaiah 34 (King James Bible)

7And the unicorns shall come down with them, and the bullocks with the bulls; and their land shall be soaked with blood, and their dust made fat with fatness.

Isaiah 34 (New King James Version)

7The wild oxen shall come down with them, And the young bulls with the mighty bulls; Their land shall be soaked with blood, And their dust saturated with fatness.”
there is also donkey or ass.
 

BenjaminN

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there is also donkey or ass.
Yes, even though God created donkeys and asses, whilst God did not create the mythical, mystical "unicorn" creature, which is a figment of man's imagination and heraldry.
 

BenjaminN

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I believe David used the word unicorn in the Psalms.
No God's King David did not use the word "unicorn", he used the word for the God created creature "wild ox" in the NKJV (Psalm 22:21, Psalm 29:6, Psalm 92:10), but Britain's king James fraudulently did use the mystical, mythical word "unicorn" in the KJV.

Numbers 23 (King James Bible)

22God brought them out of Egypt; he hath as it were the strength of an unicorn.

Numbers 23 (New King James Version)

22God brings them out of Egypt; He has strength like a wild ox.

(King James Bible)

8God brought him forth out of Egypt; he hath as it were the strength of an unicorn: he shall eat up the nations his enemies, and shall break their bones, and pierce them through with his arrows.

Numbers 24 (New King James Version)

8“God brings him out of Egypt; He has strength like a wild ox; He shall consume the nations, his enemies; He shall break their bones And pierce them with his arrows.

Deuteronomy 33 (King James Bible)

17His glory is like the firstling of his bullock, and his horns are like the horns of unicorns: with them he shall push the people together to the ends of the earth: and they are the ten thousands of Ephraim, and they are the thousands of Manasseh.

Deuteronomy 33 (New King James Version)

17His glory is like a firstborn bull, And his horns like the horns of the wild ox; Together with them He shall push the peoples To the ends of the earth; They are the ten thousands of Ephraim, And they are the thousands of Manasseh.”

Job 39 (King James Bible)

9Will the unicorn be willing to serve thee, or abide by thy crib? 10Canst thou bind the unicorn with his band in the furrow? or will he harrow the valleys after thee? 11Wilt thou trust him, because his strength is great? or wilt thou leave thy labour to him? 12Wilt thou believe him, that he will bring home thy seed, and gather it into thy barn?

Job 39 (New King James Version)

9“Will the wild ox be willing to serve you? Will he bed by your manger? 10Can you bind the wild ox in the furrow with ropes? Or will he plow the valleys behind you? 11Will you trust him because his strength is great? Or will you leave your labor to him? 12Will you trust him to bring home your [d]grain, And gather it to your threshing floor?

Psalm 22 (King James Bible)

21Save me from the lion's mouth: for thou hast heard me from the horns of the unicorns.

Psalm 22 (New King James Version)

21Save Me from the lion’s mouth And from the horns of the wild oxen! You have answered Me.

Psalm 29 (King James Bible)

6He maketh them also to skip like a calf; Lebanon and Sirion like a young unicorn.

Psalm 29 (New King James Version)

6He makes them also skip like a calf, Lebanon and Sirion like a young wild ox.

Psalm 92 (King James Bible)

10But my horn shalt thou exalt like the horn of an unicorn: I shall be anointed with fresh oil.

Psalm 92 (New King James Version)

10But my horn You have exalted like a wild ox; I have been anointed with fresh oil.

Isaiah 34 (King James Bible)

7And the unicorns shall come down with them, and the bullocks with the bulls; and their land shall be soaked with blood, and their dust made fat with fatness.

Isaiah 34 (New King James Version)

7The wild oxen shall come down with them, And the young bulls with the mighty bulls; Their land shall be soaked with blood, And their dust saturated with fatness.”

During the 17th, 18th, 19th and 20th centuries the British justified fighting a litany of British empire wars (also against fellow believers of other Bible texts) under the authority of the KJV "unicorn" bible. The animal referred to was changed from the Zionist ( http://bit.ly/Christianzionism ) Rothschild's and (king James') British monarch's family crests mystical, mythical corrupted horse type "unicorn" in the KJV, to a genuine God created bovine type "wild ox" / "wild oxen" in the NKJV.
 
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No God's King David did not use the word "unicorn", he used the word for the God created creature "wild ox" in the NKJV (Psalm 22:21, Psalm 29:6, Psalm 92:10), but Britain's king James fraudulently did use the mystical, mythical word "unicorn" in the KJV.
PS 29 v 6 the PS of David it says unicorn KJV.
Take it, or leave it.
 

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PS 29 v 6 the PS of David it says unicorn KJV.
Take it, or leave it.
Wrong mythical, mystical political monarchic-heraldry man-made creature "unicorn" KJV bible translation:

Psalm 29 (King James Bible)

6He maketh them also to skip like a calf; Lebanon and Sirion like a young unicorn.


Correct God created creature "wild ox" NKJV Bible translation:

Psalm 29 (New King James Version)

6He makes them also skip like a calf, Lebanon and Sirion like a young wild ox.






Psalm 22 (King James Bible)

21Save me from the lion's mouth: for thou hast heard me from the horns of the unicorns.

Psalm 22 (New King James Version)

21Save Me from the lion’s mouth And from the horns of the wild oxen! You have answered Me.

Psalm 92 (King James Bible)

10But my horn shalt thou exalt like the horn of an unicorn: I shall be anointed with fresh oil.

Psalm 92 (New King James Version)

10But my horn You have exalted like a wild ox; I have been anointed with fresh oil.
 
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Wrong mythical, mystical KJV bible translation:

Psalm 29 (King James Bible)

6He maketh them also to skip like a calf; Lebanon and Sirion like a young unicorn.


God created creature NKJV Bible translation:

Psalm 29 (New King James Version)

6He makes them also skip like a calf, Lebanon and Sirion like a young wild ox.






Psalm 22 (King James Bible)

21Save me from the lion's mouth: for thou hast heard me from the horns of the unicorns.

Psalm 22 (New King James Version)

21Save Me from the lion’s mouth And from the horns of the wild oxen! You have answered Me.

Psalm 92 (King James Bible)

10But my horn shalt thou exalt like the horn of an unicorn: I shall be anointed with fresh oil.

Psalm 92 (New King James Version)

10But my horn You have exalted like a wild ox; I have been anointed with fresh oil.
I'm not gonna continue this conversation.
Why?
Cos those other translations are (C) and the KJV isn't.
Thanks for your time. 🙂
 

BenjaminN

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I'm not gonna continue this conversation.
Why?
Cos those other translations are (C) and the KJV isn't.
Thanks for your time. 🙂
NkJV - New king James Version are (C) according to you? What does (C) mean? Christian? I'm all for the Christian New king James Version, but I do not know about the British monarchic political "unicorn" kJV bible.
 
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NKJV - New King James Version are (C) according to you? What does (C) mean? Christian? I'm all for the Christian New King James Version, but I do not know about the "unicorn" KJV bible.
the (C) is the copyright symbol.
It's the best I can do with a smartphone and not a computer.
So you haven't read the KJV ?
 

BenjaminN

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the (C) is the copyright symbol.
It's the best I can do with a smartphone and not a computer.
So you haven't read the KJV ?
Even with copyright, fair use is permitted for discussion and other purposes.

I prefer the New king James version (NkJV), contrary to the king James version (kJV), it is in modern English and do not speak of fairy tale political, mythical, mystical British monarchic heraldry "unicorn" creatures.
 
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I prefer the New king James version (NkJV), contrary to the king James version (kJV), it is in modern English and do not speak of fairy tale political, mythical, mystical British monarchic heraldry "unicorn" creatures.
there are no British monarch references in the KJV at all.
May I suggest you read the KJV, for your own peace of mind.
It's your choice though.
 

BenjaminN

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the (C) is the copyright symbol.
It's the best I can do with a smartphone and not a computer.
So you haven't read the KJV ?
You can obtain the New king James Version for free on your smartphone with the Bible.com app.
 

BenjaminN

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there are no British monarch references in the KJV at all.
May I suggest you read the KJV, for your own peace of mind.
It's your choice though.
The "unicorn" is a British monarchic family crest heraldic emblem, it is also on the Christian Zionist ( http://bit.ly/Christianzionism ) Rothschild family crest heraldic emblem. The lion symbolises the tribes of Judah among the Jews, and the "unicorn" is supposed to symbolise the lost tribes of Ephraim / Joseph. The political British Israelism's monarchic family and Christian Zionism is portrayed to re-unite Jacob / Israel's tribes together under a British monarchic Davidic ancestry kingdom, instead of Christ Yeshua the true Messiah who will re-unite and restore the Kingdom of Israel in his Millennial Kingdom to be fulfilled at the time of Revelation 20:4-8 (at His second coming with believers meeting Him in the clouds, 1 Thess 4) as prophesied in Ezekiel 37 through Ezekiel 48.


You can ask Rabbi Yair Davidiy (originally also from Australia, like yourself currently) about the political purpose of the "unicorns" in the kJV (fortunately correctly missing in the NkJV) from http://www.britam.org .
 
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The "unicorn" is a British monarchic family crest heraldic emblem, it is also on the Christian Zionist ( http://bit.ly/Christianzionism ) Rothschild family crest heraldic emblem. The lion symbolises the tribes of Judah among the Jews, and the "unicorn" is supposed to symbolise the lost tribes of Ephraim / Joseph. The political British Israelism's monarchic family and Christian Zionism is portrayed to re-unite Jacob / Israel's tribes together under a British monarchic Davidic ancestry kingdom, instead of Christ Yeshua the true Messiah who will re-unite and restore the Kingdom of Israel in his Millennial Kingdom to be fulfilled at the time of Revelation 20:4-8 as prophesied in Ezekiel 37 through Ezekiel 48.


You can ask Rabbi Yair Davidiy (originally also from Australia, like yourself currently) about the political purpose of the "unicorns" in the kJV (luckily missing from the NkJV) from http://www.britam.org .
why, would I ask a rabbi ?
 

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I'm not gonna continue this conversation.
Why?
Cos those other translations are (C) and the KJV isn't.
Thanks for your time. 🙂
That's not entirely true.

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