Does anyone know what the double slit experiment is? It might be pointing out that there is something greater than us.

[posthuman]

Maybe not, but you have juxtapositioned the physical against the spiritual and said one is sin and the other is not... that anything physical is disordered with entropy, that just being here is sin, even that energy is sin. So God in your view is sin. There's no escaping that conclusion.

the law of entropy doesn't actually require increase in disorder, BTW.
it's ΔS ≥ 0
entropy is nondecreasing. it can stay the same ((no increase)) or it can increase.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

Maybe not, but you have juxtapositioned the physical against the spiritual and said one is sin and the other is not... that anything physical is disordered with entropy, that just being here is sin, even that energy is sin. So God in your view is sin. There's no escaping that conclusion.

And you want to believe you can wake half the world with your vain philosophy.

Totally un-Biblical view. People come to faith by hearing and believing the gospel.

::sigh::
There is nothing greater than God. Stop trying to vilify me.

The present state ..the now, is sin while this reality is running.

 

[posthuman]

He had to become physical sin to take it away.

you sure?

So David said to Nathan, “I have sinned against the LORD.” ​

And Nathan said to David, “The LORD also has put away your sin; you shall not die." ​

(2 Samuel 12:13)​

 

[T_Laurich]

I too am curious where you learned this theory.

Because your definition of sin creating the physical based on "eternal wave lengths" is extremely bizarre.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

I'm hoping it is key to the last religious revival.

 

[T_Laurich]

If your hoping it helps everyone prosper with the Gospel that Christ died for our sins and He is God and only throughHim can we Live as He lives now, your heart is in the right place...

But I am warning that your theory doesn't hold against the Bible or any understanding of quantum physics.

To me personally it sounds like spiritualism pushed into quantum.

 

[posthuman]

I'm hoping it is key to the last religious revival.

i am skeptical about the 144,000 preaching what you've been talking about.

 

[posthuman]

Sin is disorder in an infinite coherent vector field

Schrödinger's wave equation doesn't live in a vector field. it lives in probability space.

 

[T_Laurich]

Schrödinger's wave equation doesn't live in a vector field. it lives in probability space.

His cat might. We don't know till we open it.

(Joke based on English definition of uncertainty)

 

[pittsburghjoe]

If your hoping it helps everyone prosper with the Gospel that Christ died for our sins and He is God and only throughHim can we Live as He lives now, your heart is in the right place...

But I am warning that your theory doesn't hold against the Bible or any understanding of quantum physics.

To me personally it sounds like spiritualism pushed into quantum.

Why is Jesus only "made him to be sin" on the cross? Is it because you don't want to deal with what it really means?

 

[pittsburghjoe]

His cat might. We don't know till we open it.

(Joke based on English definition of uncertainty)

The purpose was to demonstrate how weird QM is. The problem is that you can't domino effect coherence to a local object that can remain local on its own.

 

[posthuman]

I'm hoping it is key to the last religious revival.

i will say this tho: seeing that you've been describing 'sinlessness' as though it's equivalent to an uncollapsed wave function, and since wave functions collapse upon observation, i do see this concept in the Revelation --

And the kings of the earth, the great men, the rich men, the commanders, the mighty men, every slave and every free man, hid themselves in the caves and in the rocks of the mountains, and said to the mountains and rocks, “Fall on us and hide us from the face of Him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb! For the great day of His wrath has come, and who is able to stand?”
(Revelation 6:15-17)
​

when the 6th seal is broken, people will want to prevent themselves from being observed by God, fearing His wrath

 

[T_Laurich]

Why is Jesus only "made him to be sin" on the cross? Is it because you don't want to deal with what it really means?

No its because if Christ did not live a perfect life, He is not qualified to open the seals and take ownership of us.

 

[posthuman]

The purpose was to demonstrate how weird QM is. The problem is that you can't domino effect coherence to a local object that can remain local on its own.

nothing exists on its own. that's independent of invariant phase difference over any time interval.
nothing exists apart from being a set of possibilities in an abstract probability space until it is observed by a consciousness.

Acts 17:28 - by Him we have our being. that's quantum physics in the Bible; the observer effect + the Copenhagen interpretation.
God is the Observer.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

No its because if Christ did not live a perfect life, He is not qualified to open the seals and take ownership of us.

You are missing the point. He can live a perfect life, but he needed to be here as a physical human to do it.

 

[posthuman]

His cat might. We don't know till we open it.

(Joke based on English definition of uncertainty)

if i find a cat in there, i'll ask it

 

[T_Laurich]

when the 6th seal is broken, people will want to prevent themselves from being observed by God, fearing His wrath

Beautiful and elegant.

Never thought of that before, thanks for the information.

 

[T_Laurich]

You are missing the point. He can live a perfect life, but he needed to be here as a physical human to do it.

Yes, agreed.

But being physical does not mean sin.

If that was the case Jesus's existence would be sin and nullify the Cross.

But since I have the Holy Spirit I know the cross was not null and void.

 

[pittsburghjoe]

Made in sin doesn't make you a sinful person ..it just let's you interact with this fallen reality.

 

[posthuman]

You are missing the point. He can live a perfect life, but he needed to be here as a physical human to do it.

then there's nothing sinful about having a physical manifestation, and having a physical manifestation is not evidence of sin.

otherwise Christ doesn't have a 'perfect life' -- He has a sinful one because He took on physical flesh and His mortal body is itself evidence of sin.

right?