Are we in the precursor to what becomes Hell?

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Magenta

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::face palm::

I'm saying 95% of them are a challenge to approach on God.
That is not what you said. Go facepalm yourself, since you are all over the place on these issues.

You say one thing then claim you said another.

You say one thing and then contradict it with another.

How is this going to impress non-believers? Hint: it is not.

We are all born enemies to God and hostile toward Him.

Your precious vain philosophies will not change that.
 
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Blackpowderduelist

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Saying you are particles says you are in a fallen reality. Wake up.
And this body will die. And be buried and rot in the ground. Because by sin death entered into creation.
Guess what, so also will your body die.
I will receive an body which is not corrupted, and will not die. Just as the resurrected body of Jesus, who Mary clinged to and Thomas put his fingers and hands on.

Oh and did you bother to read the article?
 

oyster67

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They listen to science ..I have science. Anything that eventually gets them to see the light is fine with God.
Hebrews
11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.
11:6 But without faith [it is] impossible to please [him]: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and [that] he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
 
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The double slit experiment doesn't make any sense to anyone that investigates it ..it is screaming that this reality is not what they thought it was.
 

Magenta

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The double slit experiment doesn't make any sense to anyone that investigates it ..
it is screaming that this reality is not what they thought it was.
Interesting that you think nonsense is going to convince people :oops::rolleyes::oops:
 
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Can any of you see what I'm saying with the Tree being the connection to this fallen reality where sin is possible?
 
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Blackpowderduelist

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I didn't even know I was scientist when I was just a kid performing waves experiments I horse troughs, ponds, rivers, lakes, and mid holes, when I was just a lad. I observed all those same things in the waters, and didn't need billion dollar colliders to do it. All they prove is that the smaller you go with base subject materials they still do the same thing. From solution to molecule to atom to subatomic particle, same results. Common sense tells ya that though.
I guess I missed my chance to get billions of tax payer dollars for playing on the water.
I wonder what I would have done with billions of dollars as a kid out in farm country? I would have had one radical bicycle.
 
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If angel sin isn't physical, was the tree of knowledge connected to the sin of Satan? Did it represent the free will choice they had? Was Adam not created with knowledge of evil because that would have caused this fallen reality without disobeying God?
God commanded Adam and Eve to not eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. (Genesis 2:16-17).

Eating from this tree gives the knowledge of good and evil and possessing this knowledge makes one have knowledge that God has. (Genesis 3:22)

So having the knowledge of good and evil is not the same as being good or evil, but we know God is good and disobeying God's commands are evil. The tree of knowledge is not itself evil either.

I think the whole point is to not disobey God because God is sovereign. His commands automatically conform to objective good as supreme Creator of the universe.

He said don't eat from the tree and they decided to anyway.
 

oyster67

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Can any of you see what I'm saying with the Tree being the connection to this fallen reality where sin is possible?
The TKGE was indirectly tied to the fall, but the real culprit was disobedience.
 
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The TKGE was indirectly tied to the fall, but the real culprit was disobedience.
Because you can't deal with what it would mean for the tree to be the gateway into this reality?
 
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Why in the world would Satan be there otherwise?
 

Magenta

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Why in the world would Satan be there otherwise?
“Simon, Simon, Satan has asked to sift all of you as wheat. But I have prayed for you, Simon,
that your faith may not fail. And when you have turned back, strengthen your brothers.”


Not only so, but we also glory in our sufferings, because we know that
suffering produces perseverance; perseverance, character; and character,
hope. And hope does not put us to shame, because God’s love has been
poured out into our hearts through the Holy Spirit, who has been given to us.
 
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Show me where this challenges your faith? Are you serious right now?
 

Magenta

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Show me where this challenges your faith? Are you serious right now?
To whom is this question addressed, and to what is it regarding?

Are you incapable of using the REPLY function to quote?
 
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Tell my how Satan was at the tree when he had already been cast to the earth. Cause ..uhhh ..it's looking like there was a gateway.
 

oyster67

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Because you can't deal with what it would mean for the tree to be the gateway into this reality?
Please share with me why you think I am having trouble dealing with something. You approach things at very weird angles at time's. Adams disobedience is a fact, not a theory. If you have an agenda, please come out of the closet and boldly present it.
 

Magenta

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Tell my how Satan was at the tree when he had already been cast to the earth. Cause ..uhhh ..it's looking like there was a gateway.
How could Satan have been at the tree had he not been on earth? Your question makes no sense.