Is the double slit experiment proof of original sin?

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pittsburghjoe

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The double slit experiment is indicating we are judging if something is part of this fallen reality or not. We became unique instead of as a whole. A physical person has pride, vanity, greed, lust, ego ..sin

The knowledge of judging evil allows humans to know something is physical. We didn't know/see what the difference was between a wave and particle before sin.

Scientists say decoherence is lost information to the environment. ..but the environment is this fallen reality. We are swimming in sin.

It goes deeper ..original sin caused disorder ..entropy. Unobserved waves are coherent and infinite. Decohered wave packets are finite. They caused disorder of the perfect order of coherence. SIN

This fallen condition causes Death, Decay, and Age.

Sin has something to do with physicality. Satan was allowed in the Garden because God needed something fallen to give us choice for Free Will. If God used a tree ..it means it was a physical tree ..and Satan is able to be around anything fallen apparently. The tree of knowledge would have looked normal to Adam because he couldn't judge between good and evil yet. The tree was physical in a garden that was not. God doesn't create evil so he used something from this fallen view.

Our eyes were open to Satan's perception because he was the first to cause disorder.

I think decoherence might be a present state ..the now. Physical objects can only be in the now ..not the future.
 
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The [Double Slit] is something you have coined for something you feel weaves between definitions of Science meshing to Scripture. I would bet you believe the [Description] of Creation is not thorough enough you see the possibility of Evolution as being God's process to life. What all Scientific Evidence do you feel connects to the Bible, from your viewpoint?
 
Lanolin

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possibly,
But I wouldnt say that all physical objects are sinful and all spiritual things are not. Its not that cut and dried.
Why because there are evil spirits, or fallen angels as it were...and they were disembodied and want to cause havoc in a physical creation that God called 'very good'. Thats why demons want to inhabit peoples bodies. They had lost their host and they want to steal, kill and destroy.

But if we have the holy spirit they cant.
 
Lanolin

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Jesus did send demons that were harassing people into some pigs.
 
p_rehbein

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Double-Split?

Never heard of that one........

now.............'Nanner Splits........SURE........
 
p_rehbein

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Young's Double Slit Experiment: A Simple Explanation

pittsburghjoe said:
The knowledge of judging evil allows humans to know something is physical. We didn't know/see what the difference was between a wave and particle before sin.
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Do you have Biblical evidence to support this assertion?

pittsburghjoe said:
It goes deeper ..original sin caused disorder ..entropy. Unobserved waves are coherent and infinite. Decohered wave packets are finite. They caused disorder of the perfect order of coherence. SIN

This fallen condition causes Death, Decay, and Age.
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So, it is basically the "Butterfly effect?"

I love it when Scientists try to explain God, and His word/Truths
 
pittsburghjoe

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This fallen reality is the Butterfly effect? Sure, whatever, it's the situation we are currently in.
 
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pittsburghjoe said:
The double slit experiment is indicating we are judging if something is part of this fallen reality or not. We became unique instead of as a whole. A physical person has pride, vanity, greed, lust, ego ..sin

The knowledge of judging evil allows humans to know something is physical. We didn't know/see what the difference was between a wave and particle before sin.

Scientists say decoherence is lost information to the environment. ..but the environment is this fallen reality. We are swimming in sin.

It goes deeper ..original sin caused disorder ..entropy. Unobserved waves are coherent and infinite. Decohered wave packets are finite. They caused disorder of the perfect order of coherence. SIN

This fallen condition causes Death, Decay, and Age.

Sin has something to do with physicality. Satan was allowed in the Garden because God needed something fallen to give us choice for Free Will. If God used a tree ..it means it was a physical tree ..and Satan is able to be around anything fallen apparently. The tree of knowledge would have looked normal to Adam because he couldn't judge between good and evil yet. The tree was physical in a garden that was not. God doesn't create evil so he used something from this fallen view.

Our eyes were open to Satan's perception because he was the first to cause disorder.

I think decoherence might be a present state ..the now. Physical objects can only be in the now ..not the future.
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I could see the double-slit experiment as a convincing test that proves intelligent design. In other words it's proof of God.
 
Magenta

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@ OP: You said the double slit experiment makes no sense.
 
pittsburghjoe

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If you want out of this hellhole, you have to be willing to give it all up. This place is made of and for sin. We are in Satan's perception of Death and Decay. This place is a test, you're not supposed to enjoy it. You have to give up everything that makes you physically unique. You will have an ID in Heaven, but the one you have right now is used for sin. That's what sin is, Greed, Lust, Ego, Pride, Vanity. IT IS ALL ABOUT YOU.

God wants us to become one with Him. That means becoming connected to a whole. Sin will not be possible. The alternative is for you to stick around here with a ruler that hates humans more than anything.

We are born into this fallen reality because our representation for humans picked to believe Satan over God. To disobey God's order. God didn't want us here, it ends in death. God didn't want robots so he had to allow the choice to go dark. God doesn't create evil so the fallen mess Satan started was the only thing God could use as the choice.

It doesn't do any good to complain about the situation we are in. Face it head on and realize there is a way out of it.

The double slit experiment screams that something isn't right. What more do you need as a sign? Wave-Particle Duality is pointing out that sin needs decoherence to happen.

We are made in God's image, we are not dumb. The tree is about knowing the difference between good and evil. It is allowing us to know when something is physical. We can't know that difference at creation because then we would be physical from the start. We would be able to sin.
 
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God created physical reality and called it "very good" before sin entered it. the tangible, 'real' world is not evil. it is subjected to frustration, not of it's accord, for the sake of the expectation of the revealing of the children of God. it will be renewed; Christ will return and restore all things.

the double & single slit experiments lead to the revelation that He upholds all things and by Him all things have their being. that all things are by Him, for Him and through Him. they do not imply some physical-existence-is-the-result-of-sin-therefore-inherntly-evil neo-gnosticism; they imply that the existence of all things is a product of omniscience. the invisible qualities of God are made visible in the testimony of His creation.; His eternal power and godhood.
 
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The double slit experiment played a huge part to my awakening to god. For those that don't know it, it actually proves reality is dependent on observation (as Buddhists believe). This is a material world and we are spirit based beings having an experience here. The tree in the garden of eden was a representation of free will. I don't believe god sent us from eden because of disobedience but because we had demonstrated free will and not just trusted in god. When we fell from the garden we fell into hell.

This earth is hell, everything rots and decays here, even still water turns stagnant, greed and murder wins here. But there is also light here, acts of kindness and love.

Satan is the prince of this reality, however all life is temporal and what happens here is just a tiny part of our existence as souls. I believe there are many paths to god and this is perhaps what Jesus meant when he said "i have other sheep that are not of this fold"
John 10:16, however Jesus is the quickest and least rocky path.

Experiments like the double slit experiment show us particles in this universe behave as waveform. This deconstructs the whole physical universe as some kind of virtual reality. Perhaps gods reason for hell and Satan is to test us and see if we will follow god in a world of temptation. We blame Satan for evil but I tell you truly we are capable of much evil on our own. We have a choice to follow god or not in this hell, the same choice as to eat the apple or not. We after all this time just need to decide if we trust in god.
 
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p_rehbein said:
So, it is basically the "Butterfly effect?
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The Butterfly Effect is based on chaos theory not in a universe of intelligent design. Science right now is split 50/50 on this being a false universe. If the double slit experiment is proof of intelligent design then the Butterfly Effect does not apply. What applies is that this reality is a lower dimension to gods realm. That all things were created.

It could be that everything that has happened in your life was predetermined. That you are exactly where your supposed to be. Reading this now and contemplating god. Everything in your life has led you to this point right now that you are here thinking of gods truth. So for me the double slit experiment implies not a theory based on chaos but on actual design,
 
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SoulSearcher said:
The double slit experiment played a huge part to my awakening to god. For those that don't know it, it actually proves reality is dependent on observation (as Buddhists believe).
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yes, and Who observes all things at all times? from Whom is nothing hidden?

you?
Satan?

lol, no.

Jesus Christ, the LORD God Almighty, The Spirit. ;)
it's HIS perception that matters, not someone else's.
 
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pittsburghjoe said:
We are born into this fallen reality because our representation for humans picked to believe Satan over God. To disobey God's order. God didn't want us here, it ends in death. God didn't want robots so he had to allow the choice to go dark. God doesn't create evil so the fallen mess Satan started was the only thing God could use as the choice.
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There is no Biblical basis for such an assertion. Not only that? You limit God.
 
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This guy only says this stuff because you respond.
 
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p_rehbein said:
Double-Split?

Never heard of that one........

now.............'Nanner Splits........SURE........
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Stick around more and more new age religion injections are on the way.
 
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