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Is the double slit experiment proof of original sin?
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A few corrections, if I may, and thank you for inviting suchThis is way above my pay grade.
So looking at what scripture says....correct me if I'm wrong. This is what it says to me.
To sin is to go against the natural way of God
The tree of good and evil was never intended to be eaten from.
God had purposed every tree but this one to be eaten from.
Satan appeared adorned in all this beautiful apparel to cause a distraction.
Eve was attracted to his appearance comparing it to the forbidden fruits.
Eve being seduced by what she saw then did eat.
Adam on the other hand trusted in the words of the serpent and the actions of his wife over the word of God.
Now to say that we were some sorta rays or something before the fall counterdicts what adam said about eve.
"This is bone of my bone and flesh of my flesh" note blood is not mentioned. I compare this to the body of the risen Christ. Thomas put his hands in the wounds, jesus did walk, and eat. And yet he seemed to pass through doors and walls. Jesus accended by his own power to the father not taken up.
So there you have it......corrections or comments anyone?
In order: it is the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, not the tree of knowledge. Adam had knowledge already.
Scriptures do not say Eve was attracted by Satan's appearance, only that she was deceived by him.
Nor do Scriptures say Adam trusted the words of the serpent. He harkened to the voice of his wife, Eve.
In other words: Adam was not deceived. Scripture is clear in this point
Also, it is perhaps a reasonable assumption to say Thomas put his hands in Jesus' wounds, but Scripture does not record this, and it is just as likely he did not, believing upon merely seeing the wounds, for which Jesus in fact commended him
Jesus said to him (Thomas), “Because you have seen Me, you have believed;
blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.”
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A few corrections, if I may, and thank you for inviting such
In order: it is the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, not the tree of knowledge. Adam had knowledge already.
Scriptures do not say Eve was attracted by Satan's appearance, only that she was deceived by him.
Nor do Scriptures say Adam trusted the words of the serpent. He harkened to the voice of his wife, Eve.
In other words: Adam was not deceived. Scripture is clear in this point
Also, it is perhaps a reasonable assumption to say Thomas put his hands in Jesus' wounds, but Scripture does not record this, and it is just as likely he did not, believing upon merely seeing the wounds, for which Jesus in fact commended him
Jesus said to him (Thomas), “Because you have seen Me, you have believed;
blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.”
Points taken and thank you my colorful friend.
I did leave out good and evil didn't l
getting old..
.Scriptures addresses the appearance of the serpent. In my understanding it was to draw attraction to him.
That's just a guess as to why his appearance was addressed.
As for thomas this is what I sent by...
Thomas tells the other disciples “Unless I see the mark of the nails in his hands, and put my finger in the mark of the nails and my hand in his side, I will not believe.” Jesus appears again, Thomas gets to touch the blessed wounds of Christ, and then exclaims “My Lord and my God!
Eve was tricked by the serpent using her perception of what was seen.
Adam trusting in his wife but then again the serpent is a point to be made.
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If this is to:3, I just made an observation and asked a question, not sure how that can be seen as an attack
Interesting. I just read someone ask a proper question that was direct and to the point (so harmless) about this topic being on other sites. And the response back was defensive [why are you attacking me]?
If I may, when you read the post that led to this response of yours, why did you feel and perceive he was attacking you?
I would really be intrigued where this defensive response [originated] from.
When someone complains about the same topic on different sites ..it means they don't want to consider it. So they lash out like he did.
Are you revealing that you are discussing this [same topic] on this site and another site? But not just that, the Member who asked the question on this site is also posting to you on the other site?
Tell me something pittsburghjoe, clearly from quickly observing some of your Thread topic choices, you're into Astrophysics. Much of why your [subject matter] deals with matter prior/after the Bang. You probably love Neil De Grasse. The man is a genius. I enjoy Krauss' views myself except his flop to the [Soup Theory], even while choking down his admittance to the K.O.B.E. proof the Laws of Physics, Singularity, energy, matter was the {result/not the cause} of the Bang.
Why does it matter if you're being opposed on your views? They are your views. My earlier interjection where [Sin] actually originated [Satan] obviously removes the particle theory here. But nevertheless, it's your view. I really put thought into your suggestion. But understanding your views better leads me to think you believe the Creation of God was through Evolution. It's the only way the [sin particle] could naturally relate and be bound to us. Ultimately, I just don't buy that it aligns with Scripture. Or to the specific Verses being used here.
Why does it matter if you're being opposed on your views? They are your views. My earlier interjection where [Sin] actually originated [Satan] obviously removes the particle theory here. But nevertheless, it's your view. I really put thought into your suggestion. But understanding your views better leads me to think you believe the Creation of God was through Evolution. It's the only way the [sin particle] could naturally relate and be bound to us. Ultimately, I just don't buy that it aligns with Scripture. Or to the specific Verses being used here.
Do you think God is bound to Time? Granting souls to Homo Sapiens didn't have to be on the day they appeared in this physical fallen reality.
God exemplifies [Time] because Time Itself is His Creation. What separates fact from fiction is to first understand the English Old Testament of the KJV Bible [is not] the best source to guide the specifics to Creation by. The Torah in the Ancient Hebrew Alphabet (Moses took Egyptian Hieroglyphs and turned each one into a letter and they created an Alphabet to their Hebrew Language) [is] what you're desiring to locate. When you examine a genuine Torah, there are specifics that shows the [WORDS God used Himself to describe these events]. And when you break the Word by word of God down into the Ancient Hebrew Language, it's impossible to be a believer in evolution. At that point, it's a denial in God and His Written Word.
No I don't think God is bound to Time as God created this reality and time itself.
Good, then you see evolution doesn't even matter. Humans fell and then a history was put in after the fact.
I'm saying it isn't necessary to ignore their "evidence" anymore. We are fine with God creating everything ..but somehow never consider He can generate history also.
God has control of all possible paths of causality. Quantum waves are future possibilities of something becoming real. God could easily handle history.
Evolution of Homo Sapiens is only generated history. It ensures the morality test we are in is intact. Original sin caused retrocausality of physical history.
God has control of all possible paths of causality. Quantum waves are future possibilities of something becoming real. God could easily handle history.
Evolution of Homo Sapiens is only generated history. It ensures the morality test we are in is intact. Original sin caused retrocausality of physical history.
You do realize Science is literally missing the connection within their theory because what they claim modern homo sapiens originate from [common ancestor][missing link].
And when you break down and reveal the complexities, DNA, is a PROGRAM, not an accident. The data alone within a single cell of too many to count that keep reproducing itself, has layers, and each layer [depth] is another library of information to overflow every capacity. Each Layer to a single cell of DNA is literally a library big enough to cover the world in Data. And don't get me started on RNA.
Even in the binary structures, Biology has unraveled a ratio of [questions] that they have no answers for.
If Science could stop death, then Science would finally understand the origins to Life. Until then, we both know they have yet to see a single cell multiple in its natural state. You're talking about 4 distinct accidents to take place before there's any [truth] to evolution. Are those [Accidents] the kind of proof you want to challenge the Word of God to from the original Hebrew Language?
It's comical the way we ignore evidence of evolution. Wake up, I'm telling you it doesn't even matter anymore.
We [believe] GOD HIMSELF inspired men to write the Bible.
Are you claiming Scientific proof about evolution is greater evidence over the Torah and God's Spoken Word about Creation?