What was the message that Elijah the tishbite was sent to deliver to the people?

[Yahcubs777]

Can anyone show me the message that Elijah preached to the people? This should be something to look into since he achieved something that only one other great man of GOD could. He transfigured alive without dying at all.

We see proof of this in Mark 9, where both Moses and Elijah meet with Supreme LORD, who also transfigures on the mountain of olives.


2 And after six days Jesus taketh with him Peter, and James, and John, and leadeth them up into an high mountain apart by themselves: and he was transfigured before them.

3 And his raiment became shining, exceeding white as snow; so as no fuller on earth can white them.

4 And there appeared unto them Elias with Moses: and they were talking with Jesus.

5 And Peter answered and said to Jesus, Master, it is good for us to be here: and let us make three tabernacles; one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for Elias.

6 For he wist not what to say; for they were sore afraid.

7 And there was a cloud that overshadowed them: and a voice came out of the cloud, saying, This is my beloved Son: hear him.

8 And suddenly, when they had looked round about, they saw no man any more, save Jesus only with themselves.

9 And as they came down from the mountain, he charged them that they should tell no man what things they had seen, till the Son of man were risen from the dead.

First let us ask the obvious question:

1. How did the Apostles know it was Moses and Elijah? There were no images, no photos, no technology that they could have recognised them by face. And even if they could, they were not mortal anymore; they were in their gloirified state.

2. It was believed before that time, according to what was written that Moses died and was buried. Yet, the Apostles knew that one of them was Moses. For us, we didn't find out until the book of Jude that Moses was not buried.

Jude
9 Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.

Now that we got the obvious questions out of the way, what is the Gospel, the message that Elijah brought to the people that clearly the people ignored, yet those people died, and he lived forever. Even his witness, Elisha did not get the same testimony.

We see when we read the events of mt Camel, that the people did not trust Elijah, and so because of his love for the people, and for the gospel, he challenged the leader at that time, to gather all the false prophets and prove that their god is real. And then 450 of them were beheaded by Elijah.

How did Elijah live forever, and what was the message he came to preach to the children of the kingdom?

 

[2ndTimothyGroup]

Can anyone show me the message that Elijah preached to the people? This should be something to look into since he achieved something that only one other great man of GOD could. He transfigured alive without dying at all.

We see proof of this in Mark 9, where both Moses and Elijah meet with the Supreme LORD, who also transfigures on the mountain of olives.


2 And after six days Jesus taketh with him Peter, and James, and John, and leadeth them up into an high mountain apart by themselves: and he was transfigured before them.

3 And his raiment became shining, exceeding white as snow; so as no fuller on earth can white them.

4 And there appeared unto them Elias with Moses: and they were talking with Jesus.

5 And Peter answered and said to Jesus, Master, it is good for us to be here: and let us make three tabernacles; one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for Elias.

6 For he wist not what to say; for they were sore afraid.

7 And there was a cloud that overshadowed them: and a voice came out of the cloud, saying, This is my beloved Son: hear him.

8 And suddenly, when they had looked round about, they saw no man any more, save Jesus only with themselves.

9 And as they came down from the mountain, he charged them that they should tell no man what things they had seen, till the Son of man were risen from the dead.

First, let us ask the obvious question:

1. How did the Apostles know it was Moses and Elijah? There were no images, no photos, no technology that they could have recognized them by face. And even if they could, they were not mortal anymore; they were in their glorified state.

2. It was believed before that time, according to what was written that Moses died and was buried. Yet, the Apostles knew that one of them was Moses. For us, we didn't find out until the book of Jude that Moses was not buried.

Jude
9 Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.

Now that we got the obvious questions out of the way, what is the Gospel, the message that Elijah brought to the people that clearly the people ignored, yet those people died, and he lived forever. Even his witness, Elisha did not get the same testimony.

We see when we read the events of mt Camel, that the people did not trust Elijah, and so because of his love for the people, and for the gospel, he challenged the leader at that time, to gather all the false prophets and prove that their god is real. And then 450 of them were beheaded by Elijah.

How did Elijah live forever, and what was the message he came to preach to the children of the kingdom?

I like what you've done, here. And I'm busted, as off the top of my head, I cannot answer the questions. Looking forward to what comes of this.

 

[CS1]

Can anyone show me the message that Elijah preached to the people? This should be something to look into since he achieved something that only one other great man of GOD could. He transfigured alive without dying at all.

We see proof of this in Mark 9, where both Moses and Elijah meet with Supreme LORD, who also transfigures on the mountain of olives.


2 And after six days Jesus taketh with him Peter, and James, and John, and leadeth them up into an high mountain apart by themselves: and he was transfigured before them.

3 And his raiment became shining, exceeding white as snow; so as no fuller on earth can white them.

4 And there appeared unto them Elias with Moses: and they were talking with Jesus.

5 And Peter answered and said to Jesus, Master, it is good for us to be here: and let us make three tabernacles; one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for Elias.

6 For he wist not what to say; for they were sore afraid.

7 And there was a cloud that overshadowed them: and a voice came out of the cloud, saying, This is my beloved Son: hear him.

8 And suddenly, when they had looked round about, they saw no man any more, save Jesus only with themselves.

9 And as they came down from the mountain, he charged them that they should tell no man what things they had seen, till the Son of man were risen from the dead.

First let us ask the obvious question:

1. How did the Apostles know it was Moses and Elijah? There were no images, no photos, no technology that they could have recognised them by face. And even if they could, they were not mortal anymore; they were in their gloirified state.

2. It was believed before that time, according to what was written that Moses died and was buried. Yet, the Apostles knew that one of them was Moses. For us, we didn't find out until the book of Jude that Moses was not buried.

Jude
9 Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.

Now that we got the obvious questions out of the way, what is the Gospel, the message that Elijah brought to the people that clearly the people ignored, yet those people died, and he lived forever. Even his witness, Elisha did not get the same testimony.

We see when we read the events of mt Camel, that the people did not trust Elijah, and so because of his love for the people, and for the gospel, he challenged the leader at that time, to gather all the false prophets and prove that their god is real. And then 450 of them were beheaded by Elijah.

How did Elijah live forever, and what was the message he came to preach to the children of the kingdom?

Choose this day who you will serve The Lord God or Baal. Jesus said I would rather you be hot or cold but lukewarm is good to know one. Elijah said Why do you stand between two opinions?

 

[oyster67]

Elijah was just a simple man with childlike faith who let Himself be used of the Lord. I believe that the Lord wants all of us to be like that. Abraham comes to mind also.

I believe that Elijah delivered many messages for and from the Lord. He did not care whether they sounded outrageous or ordinary to men. All he cared about was obeying God and being as close to Him as possible. It is a beautiful story with a beautiful ending. God is so good. Let us all seek the mantle.

 

[oyster67]

1. How did the Apostles know it was Moses and Elijah? There were no images, no photos, no technology that they could have recognised them by face. And even if they could, they were not mortal anymore; they were in their gloirified state.

God is God. He can easily plant knowledge in our heads at any time.

How did Elijah live forever, and what was the message he came to preach to the children of the kingdom?

Perhaps it was his example of obedience and faith more than any particular message he spoke.

 

[KelbyofGod]

Can anyone show me the message that Elijah preached to the people? This should be something to look into since he achieved something that only one other great man of GOD could. He transfigured alive without dying at all.

We see proof of this in Mark 9, where both Moses and Elijah meet with Supreme LORD, who also transfigures on the mountain of olives.


2 And after six days Jesus taketh with him Peter, and James, and John, and leadeth them up into an high mountain apart by themselves: and he was transfigured before them.

3 And his raiment became shining, exceeding white as snow; so as no fuller on earth can white them.

4 And there appeared unto them Elias with Moses: and they were talking with Jesus.

5 And Peter answered and said to Jesus, Master, it is good for us to be here: and let us make three tabernacles; one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for Elias.

6 For he wist not what to say; for they were sore afraid.

7 And there was a cloud that overshadowed them: and a voice came out of the cloud, saying, This is my beloved Son: hear him.

8 And suddenly, when they had looked round about, they saw no man any more, save Jesus only with themselves.

9 And as they came down from the mountain, he charged them that they should tell no man what things they had seen, till the Son of man were risen from the dead.

First let us ask the obvious question:

1. How did the Apostles know it was Moses and Elijah? There were no images, no photos, no technology that they could have recognised them by face. And even if they could, they were not mortal anymore; they were in their gloirified state.

2. It was believed before that time, according to what was written that Moses died and was buried. Yet, the Apostles knew that one of them was Moses. For us, we didn't find out until the book of Jude that Moses was not buried.

Jude
9 Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.

Now that we got the obvious questions out of the way, what is the Gospel, the message that Elijah brought to the people that clearly the people ignored, yet those people died, and he lived forever. Even his witness, Elisha did not get the same testimony.

We see when we read the events of mt Camel, that the people did not trust Elijah, and so because of his love for the people, and for the gospel, he challenged the leader at that time, to gather all the false prophets and prove that their god is real. And then 450 of them were beheaded by Elijah.

How did Elijah live forever, and what was the message he came to preach to the children of the kingdom?

People who are recorded as having departed this natural life but not particularly by dying

• Enoch: Genesis 5:21-23
• Elijah: 2 Kings 2:11-12
• Jesus: Luke 24:49-52 & Acts 1:4-9 (Jesus didn't leave by death... he resurrected, then left by ascension)
• The two witnesses: Revelation 11:3, 8-12 (Like Jesus died, resurrected, then left by asension)

It actually states that Moses died, and that God buried him, in Deuteronomy 34: 5-7

But that doesn't detract from the question you posed about Elijah's message. I now want to go and reread what it says about Elijah more thoroughly. So Thanks!

Love in Jesus,
Kelby

 

[Yahcubs777]

Choose this day who you will serve The Lord God or Baal. Jesus said I would rather you be hot or cold but lukewarm is good to know one. Elijah said Why do you stand between two opinions?

This is what you think his message was? This is why he lived forever? Are you serious? Was Elijah's message an opinion? We need to look deeper into this.

How come Jude was the only who spoke of Enoch as a Prophet, who Prophesied. How come Jude was the only one who spoke of Moses not being buried? There was a message Elijah brought to the people that the people rejected.

 

[Yahcubs777]

People who are recorded as having departed this natural life but not particularly by dying

• Enoch: Genesis 5:21-23
• Elijah: 2 Kings 2:11-12
• Jesus: Luke 24:49-52 & Acts 1:4-9 (Jesus didn't leave by death... he resurrected, then left by ascension)
• The two witnesses: Revelation 11:3, 8-12 (Like Jesus died, resurrected, then left by asension)

It actually states that Moses died and that God buried him in Deuteronomy 34: 5-7

But that doesn't detract from the question you posed about Elijah's message. I now want to go and reread what it says about Elijah more thoroughly. So Thanks!

Love in Jesus,
Kelby

Moses was not buried as revealed to us in Jude 1:9.
Yes, Enoch and Elijah the Great Prophets never died at all.

Great.

 

[Yahcubs777]

God is God. He can easily plant knowledge in our heads at any time.



Perhaps it was his example of obedience and faith more than any particular message he spoke.

We have seen evidence of this, when Jesus His Pre-Eminence remarks to Apostle Peter saying:

And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.

If it was so, why was there no remark about this? Rather, it is written GOD said: This is my beloved Son, Hear ye HIM.

Secondly, we read in 2 kings 2 that there was a path he took to the chariot of fire. Among them is: Gilgal, bethel, Jericho, and Jordan.
If we look closely at the parable of the good samaritan, we can see that Jesus His Pre-Eminence said that a man was robbed on his way to jericho.

why Jericho? What do we know about Jericho?

You will also read in 2nd kings 2 that Elijah partiwithed the waters at Jordan. meaning he parted the waters of Jordan. What does it mean?

Jesus His Pre-Eminence preached: There is the path to life.


13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:

14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

We know for a fact, that Enoch and Elijah found that path.

Selah...

 

[KelbyofGod]

Moses was not buried as revealed to us in Jude 1:9.
Yes, Enoch and Elijah the Great Prophets never died at all.

Great.

KJV just says they disputed. Which to me means argued or debated about. And that doesn't require the body to be present.

Also, if you feel Moses' body MUST be present for their dispute, it could mean that the dispute happened 1) before his burial...2) AT his burial site...or 3) after having exhumed his body. At least that's the way I see it.. And I could be wrong.

Love in Jesus,
Kelby

 

[Yahcubs777]

KJV just says they disputed. Which to me means argued or debated about. And that doesn't require the body to be present.

Also, if you feel Moses' body MUST be present for their dispute, it could mean that the dispute happened 1) before his burial...2) AT his burial site...or 3) after having exhumed his body. At least that's the way I see it.. And I could be wrong.

Love in Jesus,
Kelby

And he said, the Lord rebuke thee. Which means Arch Angel Michael won the dispute.

but again i ask, if he was buried, how was he present on the mountain of olives with Elijah in Mark 9?

 

[KelbyofGod]

And he said, the Lord rebuke thee. Which means Arch Angel Michael won the dispute.

but again i ask, if he was buried, how was he present on the mountain of olives with Elijah in Mark 9?

Well, in the Matthew 17:1-9 account, Jesus refers the to event as a "vision". No physical body necessary to show up in a vision.

Personally I consider a person's body as simply the container in which the spirit of the person is generally stored. When the body is without the spirit, the body is considered dead, but the spirit exists forever somewhere.

Love in Jesus,
Kelby

 

[Yahcubs777]

Well, in Matthew 17:1-9 Jesus refers the to event as a "vision". No physical body necessary to show up in a vision.

Personally I consider a person's body as simply the container in which the spirit of the person is generally stored. When the body is without the spirit, the body is considered dead, but the spirit exists forever somewhere.

Love in Jesus,
Kelby

It says vision because Moses and Elijah were celestial beings and Jesus His Pre-Eminence said:
Except ye are born of water, ye cannot see the kingdom of GOD.

The cloud was a help for them to be able to see them physically. And they were sore afraid because of what they saw. And were charged with not saying anything about it until after the Jesus His Pre-Eminence resurrected HIMSELF and ascended.

Again, we know Elijah did not die. We also know that the Apostles wanted to make three tabernacles, making them equal or the same in the eyes of the apostles. That is when GOD said: this is my beloved Son, hear ye HIM.

And if it were only a vision, how did they recognise it was Enoch and Elijah?

As you can see, it doesn't add up. They were not ghosts. Ghosts cannot be seen in the earth. One needs to have a physical body to be seen in this earth.

if the body is a container and not impoortant, why is there the resurrection at all?

 

[KelbyofGod]

For the record, I didn't say the container wasn't important. But I don't know why the physical body is important in heaven. And Jesus did indeed show up in physical form to his disciples after resurrection.

But he also showed up in physical form to Mary weeping at the tomb and even though he was standing there and even spoke to her, she didn't recognize him. And Mark 16:12 says he showed up in another form unto two of them as they walked. So I don't claim to know the significance of all of that.

You've hit on an interesting topic for sure.

Love in Jesus,
Kelby

 

[Yahcubs777]

For the record, I didn't say the container wasn't important. But I don't know why the physical body is important in heaven. And Jesus did indeed show up in physical form to his disciples after resurrection.

But he also showed up in physical form to Mary weeping at the tomb and even though he was standing there and even spoke to her, she didn't recognize him. And Mark 16:12 says he showed up in another form unto two of them as they walked. So I don't claim to know the significance of all of that.

You've hit on an interesting topic for sure.

Love in Jesus,
Kelby

Yes exactly! I am glad you are seeing that now. Elijah and Enoch the Great Prophets having never died, having never been resurrected, were alive in a physical body. That means they transfigured in life and entered into heaven alive. The fact that Moses was there with Elijah, and Jesus His Pre-Eminence transfigured, is proof that moses was not buried, and that he was also transfigured with Elijah and Jesus His Pre-Eminence.

Even though that detail was not recorded, the fact that the Apostles saw the three as equals, with Jesus His Pre-Eminence also transfigured means that as it was written, Moses and Elijah had conformed to the image of the Son of GOD.

And the reason why they knew it was Moses and Elijah, is because they knew Elijah never died. And they knew that Moses was never buried. That is how they were able to know who was there, as well as the wonderful Revelations they got from John the baptist, and Jesus His Pre-Eminence.

Great.

 

[KelbyofGod]

Yes exactly! I am glad you are seeing that now. Elijah and Enoch the Great Prophets having never died, having never been resurrected, were alive in a physical body. That means they transfigured in life and entered into heaven alive. The fact that Moses was there with Elijah, and Jesus His Pre-Eminence transfigured, is proof that moses was not buried, and that he was also transfigured with Elijah and Jesus His Pre-Eminence.

Even though that detail was not recorded, the fact that the Apostles saw the three as equals, with Jesus His Pre-Eminence also transfigured means that as it was written, Moses and Elijah had conformed to the image of the Son of GOD.

And the reason why they knew it was Moses and Elijah, is because they knew Elijah never died. And they knew that Moses was never buried. That is how they were able to know who was there, as well as the wonderful Revelations they got from John the baptist, and Jesus His Pre-Eminence.

Great.

Even though I think that some differing conclusions can be reached, I'm glad that you are excited about the word of God and what it means in real life (at least that's what people call it). Personally I think the spiritual is the more real of the two because that will last much longer than our earthly lives.

I wish you well on your quest for truth.

Love in Jesus,
Kelby

 

[RomanticRevolutionary]

The essence of the message of Elijah the Tishbite: turn back to the true God from all your false religions and all the whoredoms which Jezebel taught you for she and her kingdom be accursed and destroyed in the name of Jesus.

 

[Adstar]

Can anyone show me the message that Elijah preached to the people? This should be something to look into since he achieved something that only one other great man of GOD could. He transfigured alive without dying at all.

We see proof of this in Mark 9, where both Moses and Elijah meet with Supreme LORD, who also transfigures on the mountain of olives.


2 And after six days Jesus taketh with him Peter, and James, and John, and leadeth them up into an high mountain apart by themselves: and he was transfigured before them.

3 And his raiment became shining, exceeding white as snow; so as no fuller on earth can white them.

4 And there appeared unto them Elias with Moses: and they were talking with Jesus.

5 And Peter answered and said to Jesus, Master, it is good for us to be here: and let us make three tabernacles; one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for Elias.

6 For he wist not what to say; for they were sore afraid.

7 And there was a cloud that overshadowed them: and a voice came out of the cloud, saying, This is my beloved Son: hear him.

8 And suddenly, when they had looked round about, they saw no man any more, save Jesus only with themselves.

9 And as they came down from the mountain, he charged them that they should tell no man what things they had seen, till the Son of man were risen from the dead.

First let us ask the obvious question:

1. How did the Apostles know it was Moses and Elijah? There were no images, no photos, no technology that they could have recognised them by face. And even if they could, they were not mortal anymore; they were in their gloirified state.

God is well able to cause a person to Know who it is they are seeing in a vision.. People have seen Jesus in dreams and visions and they just knew it was Jesus..

2. It was believed before that time, according to what was written that Moses died and was buried. Yet, the Apostles knew that one of them was Moses. For us, we didn't find out until the book of Jude that Moses was not buried.

Moses did die according to the Word of God: Just because Moses appeared to them does not mean he did not die beforehand..

Deuteronomy 34:5-7 "¶ So Moses the servant of the LORD died there in the land of Moab, according to the word of the LORD. {6} And he buried him in a valley in the land of Moab, over against Beth–peor: but no man knoweth of his sepulchre unto this day. {7} ¶ And Moses was an hundred and twenty years old when he died: his eye was not dim, nor his natural force abated."

Jude
9 Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.

Body of Moses.. meaning Moses had died..

Now that we got the obvious questions out of the way, what is the Gospel, the message that Elijah brought to the people that clearly the people ignored, yet those people died, and he lived forever. Even his witness, Elisha did not get the same testimony.

He like other prophets gave warnings to the Jewish people and like any other prophets His warnings where sometimes resisted..

 

[Yahcubs777]

Even though I think that some differing conclusions can be reached, I'm glad that you are excited about the word of God and what it means in real life (at least that's what people call it). Personally I think the spiritual is the more real of the two because that will last much longer than our earthly lives.

I wish you well on your quest for truth.

Love in Jesus,
Kelby

Thank you. And you as well.

Let me just leave something here for you to consider, and study, and meditate in.

Heaven is not a ghost world. That is why there must be the resurrection for all the children of the kingdom that died in the earth.
We see this in Rev 20-22 where John the Beloved reveals to us what he saw about the new Salem. Eden,in that Genesis story, is actually not in this earth, but is the third heavens world for Mankind. That is where Father Adam His Eminence, and Mother Eve Her Grace descended from in the fall. That is why it was called a fall. And the chariot of fire that picked up Elijah, is the same Chariot that broughtour Principal Ancestors into the earth after eating from a certain fruit in the garden. Eden is the land of our fathers that was Called "The Promised Land" Not Cana'an. The proof is that GOD said that HE had prepared a land for them already. But when they got there, they started killing the inhabitants of that land. That is proof that it was not prepared.

Rather, the Promised Land is Eden, the heavens world for Mankind.

Secondly, Spirit, soul and body in tact is required to enter into heaven. And the body that is needed is what was called "The glorified state"... Which is what Jesus His Pre-Eminence showed when HE transifgured. That transfigured body is the image of GOD that father Adam's body was coupled after - the original body of Man before the fall.

This mortal body was a requirement for procreation. Procreation is not possible in our perfect state. Thus, the fall of Man was a requirement for the procreation of the Mankind race. But the result of that was death, the mortal body that can die. And this was because of the Law in John 12:24 -

Except (means there is no other way) a seed falls to the ground and dies, it abideth alone. But if the seed dies, it brings forth much fruit.

Since there is no other way, it has to be a Law. Therefore, it is the Law for Procreation. That is why Father Adam His Eminence and Mother Eve Her Grace had to migrate their celestial body from immortality to mortality, from celestial to terrestrial, and that is the exact effect the fruit that they ate had on their physical body.

Thus, GOD sent us messengers, which were Prophets because only they have the ability to hear from GOD inuadibly, to dispense revelations that when we meditate in, ponder in, assimilate into our Spirit Being, it can hatch the original gene like food deposits minerals, which can immortalise that physical body in life alive. The proof is HE spoke to Moses audibly, not inaudibly. To the Prophets HE spoke to them inaudibly. Thus, Moses was sent yes, but he is not a Prophet. That is why Moses is called "The Law" .
The Law Moses, and the Prophets.

Except ye eat the flesh of the Son of Man, and drink his blood, ye have no life in you.

Here HE personified HIMSELF as his WORD. The flesh and blood was pointing to HIS genetic information, which is HIS WORD.

Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every WORD that proceeds from the mouth of GOD.

That is what Enoch and Elijah achieved.

I emplore you to look into more for yourself.

Thank you.

 

[Yahcubs777]

The essence of the message of Elijah the Tishbite: turn back to the true God from all your false religions and all the whoredoms which Jezebel taught you for she and her kingdom be accursed and destroyed in the name of Jesus.

The people ignored his message even after he had proved the false prophets as liars. What was the message they ignored?