What was the message that Elijah the tishbite was sent to deliver to the people?

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God is well able to cause a person to Know who it is they are seeing in a vision.. People have seen Jesus in dreams and visions and they just knew it was Jesus..



Moses did die according to the Word of God: Just because Moses appeared to them does not mean he did not die beforehand..

Deuteronomy 34:5-7 "¶ So Moses the servant of the LORD died there in the land of Moab, according to the word of the LORD. {6} And he buried him in a valley in the land of Moab, over against Beth–peor: but no man knoweth of his sepulchre unto this day. {7} ¶ And Moses was an hundred and twenty years old when he died: his eye was not dim, nor his natural force abated."



Body of Moses.. meaning Moses had died..



He like other prophets gave warnings to the Jewish people and like any other prophets His warnings where sometimes resisted..
No one has seen Jesus His Pre-Eminence for 2000 years, not even in dreams. No one has any idea what HE looked like in the earth, or n heaven.

Moses never departed from his body. What would Arch Angel Michael want with a empty body that is terrestrial?

Elijah was not like other Prophets. He was greater than all of them.
 
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The people ignored his message even after he had proved the false prophets as liars. What was the message they ignored?
The message never changed. Their kingdom; from Ahab, to his sons, to his armies, to his priests, to his people, to the land itself, to Jezebel the person, got accursed and destroyed just like Elijah the Tishbite told them at the commandment of Jesus.
 

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No one has seen Jesus His Pre-Eminence for 2000 years, not even in dreams. No one has any idea what HE looked like in the earth, or n heaven.
John while on the island of Patmos was taken up in the spirit and saw the LORD Jesus Christ.. Read the Book of Revelation chapter 1 and read His description.. It seems to me you have just been indoctrinated into that belief that no one has seen Jesus for 2000 years and your repeating it on Auto drive.. You need to read the Holy Bible and seek the truth from Jesus..

Moses never departed from his body. What would Arch Angel Michael want with a empty body that is terrestrial?
You should concede to the scriptures i gave you that Moses died.. If you deny Moses died then you are declaring the Holy Bible to be a lie..
 
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The message never changed. Their kingdom; from Ahab, to his sons, to his armies, to his priests, to his people, to the land itself, to Jezebel the person, got accursed and destroyed just like Elijah the Tishbite told them at the commandment of Jesus.

here is the question. Elisha followed Elijah, was the only one who did and even he did not live forever. Why did Elijah live forever? Why did Enoch live forever?
 
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John while on the island of patmos was taken up in the spirit and saw the LORD Jesus Christ.. Read the Book of Revelation chapter 1 and read His desctription.. It seems to me you have just been indoctrinated into that belief that no one has seen Jesus for 2000 years and your repeating it on Auto drive.. You need to read the Holy Bible and seek the truth from Jesus..



You should conceed to the scriptures i gave you that Moses died.. If you deny Moses died then you are declaring the Holy Bible to be a lie..
So Jude 1:9 is a contradiction? Why is it that only Jude said it? I didn't say he didn't die, i said he was not buried.
 
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John while on the island of Patmos was taken up in the spirit and saw the LORD Jesus Christ.. Read the Book of Revelation chapter 1 and read His description.. It seems to me you have just been indoctrinated into that belief that no one has seen Jesus for 2000 years and your repeating it on Auto drive.. You need to read the Holy Bible and seek the truth from Jesus..



You should concede to the scriptures i gave you that Moses died.. If you deny Moses died then you are declaring the Holy Bible to be a lie..
He is among them that saw HIM 2000 years ago. I am not indoctrinated. No one has seen HIM since John.
 

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He is among them that saw HIM 2000 years ago. I am not indoctrinated. No one has seen HIM since John.
So you are denying that after the death of Jesus.. John while on the island of Patmos was taken in the Spirit and saw Jesus and described His appearance in heaven????

Your moving your goal posts a lot.. You first declared Moses never died and then you stated you never said Moses died..

As for Elijah what happened to him had nothing to do with His personal greatness.. Like all prophets it had 100% to do with the will of God.. What happened to Elijah serves Gods purpose.. It was not some special reward given to Elijah.. If you read the Book of Revelation you will read about the future last two witnesses and many believe one of them will be Elijah.. Note how their story ends.. They are both killed by the beast in Jerusalem when their witness is finished..
 
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So you are denying that after the death of Jesus.. John while on the island of Patmos was taken in the Spirit and saw Jesus and described His appearance in heaven????

Your moving your goal posts a lot.. You first declared Moses never died and then you stated you never said Moses died..

As for Elijah what happened to him had nothing to do with His personal greatness.. Like all prophets it had 100% to do with the will of God.. What happened to Elijah serves Gods purpose.. It was not some special reward given to Elijah.. If you read the Book of Revelation you will read about the future last two witnesses and many believe one of them will be Elijah.. Note how their story ends.. They are both killed by the beast in Jerusalem when their witness is finished..
What are you talking about? No i am not denying anything. I said no one in this earth that has been here in the last 2000 years since John the beloved has seen Jesus His Pre-Eminence, either in a dream or in reality in this earth.

Elijah is greatest out of all the Prophets. The two witnesses was pointing to the testimonies of the Law, and the Prophet, personified as Moses and Elijah.
 
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So you are denying that after the death of Jesus.. John while on the island of Patmos was taken in the Spirit and saw Jesus and described His appearance in heaven????

Your moving your goal posts a lot.. You first declared Moses never died and then you stated you never said Moses died..

As for Elijah what happened to him had nothing to do with His personal greatness.. Like all prophets it had 100% to do with the will of God.. What happened to Elijah serves Gods purpose.. It was not some special reward given to Elijah.. If you read the Book of Revelation you will read about the future last two witnesses and many believe one of them will be Elijah.. Note how their story ends.. They are both killed by the beast in Jerusalem when their witness is finished..
Immortals cannot die. Moses and Elijah are immortals.

I ask you, where is the streets spiritually calledd Sodom and Egypt? For it is written, that is where our LORD was crucified. But was not HE crucified at calvary.
 
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Elijah's message was "there is only one God... Yahweh.
 

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Elijah was not like other Prophets. He was greater than all of them.
I wasn't going to point out an earlier mistake or two because you have a lot of zeal and that is important to support. However, I think your zeal causes you to jump to conclusions and then try to justify them WITH scripture rather than learning FROM scripture.

For example... saying that Elijah was the greatest among the prophets... To say that is to contradict Jesus, who said that John the Baptist was the greatest of the prophets. And I say that while knowing that you can find something to support your current elevation of Elijah. But the mistake would still be there. John the Baptist was indeed the greatest among the prophets and the greatest of them born of women... I encourage you to ask God why that is. (Rather than trying to figure it out based on your current level of knowledge and direction of thinking). It will be worth the effort, and the wait.

In the BDF, some individuals aren't compassionate in pointing out mistakes, and I don't want you to lose your zeal. So I figured I'd point it out and hopefully save you some heartache (and character assassination) later.

BTW, based on your most recent reply to me, I think you have found pieces of some very impressive concepts.

Love in Jesus,
Kelby
 
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I wasn't going to point out an earlier mistake or two because you have a lot of zeal and that is important to support. However, I think your zeal causes you to jump to conclusions and then try to justify them WITH scripture rather than learning FROM scripture.

For example... saying that Elijah was the greatest among the prophets... To say that is to contradict Jesus, who said that John the Baptist was the greatest of the prophets. And I say that while knowing that you can find something to support your current elevation of Elijah. But the mistake would still be there. John the Baptist was indeed the greatest among the prophets and the greatest of them born of women... I encourage you to ask God why that is. (Rather than trying to figure it out based on your current level of knowledge). It will be worth the wait.

In the BDF, some individuals aren't compassionate in pointing out mistakes, and I don't want you to lose your zeal. So I figured I'd point it out and hopefully save you some heartache (and character assassination) later.

BTW, based on your most recent reply to me, I think you have found pieces of some very impressive concepts.

Love in Jesus,
Kelby
John the Bapstist is an Elijah. Its not a contradiction. Elijah which are three, are the greatest among the Prophets.

Thank you.
 

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John the Bapstist is an Elijah. Its not a contradiction. Elijah which are three, are the greatest among the Prophets.

Thank you.
That's the thing I was saying could appear to justify your position. I'm pleased that you already know of it. But Jesus said John, not Elias, was the greatest. That puts John above Elias even though John was a fulfilling of the scripture about the reoccurance of Elias/Elijah. Do you know the reason he said John was the greatest instead of Elias?

Also, I'm interested to know for lack of a better way to say this... What KIND of believer are you? AKA how do you describe yourself? (Most say something like Catholic, Pentecostal, Orthadox Jew, etc.) Thanks for whatever you're willing to share.

Love in Jesus,
Kelby
 

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Also, John the Baptist died so you'd need to justify that in terms of your statement about Elijah never dying.

I'm still liking the thread, even though I'm scutinizing it.

Love in Jesus,
Kelby
 
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That's the thing I was saying could appear to justify your position. I'm pleased that you already know of it. But Jesus said John, not Elias, was the greatest. That puts John above Elias even though John was a fulfilling of the scripture about the reoccurance of Elias/Elijah. Do you know the reason he said John was the greatest instead of Elias?

Also, I'm interested to know for lack of a better way to say this... What KIND of believer are you? AKA how do you describe yourself? (Most say something like Catholic, Pentecostal, Orthadox Jew, etc.) Thanks for whatever you're willing to share.

Love in Jesus,
Kelby
Elijah or originally known as ELYAH, is the Prophet of the highest order. And there are three because they are defining GOD in HIS fatherhood state, GOD in HIS son state, and GOD in HIS Most Holy Spirit state. What I mean is, as it was written, the invisible things of this world are defined by the physical. EL - means GOD, and YAH, means GOD.

Its the same as Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. These three great men of GOD are also defining
GOD the Father, GOD the Son, and GOD the Most Holy Spirit. It is why the next that came after Jacob is the 12 Trbes of Israel.

It is why Abraham Means the Father of Many. It is why Isaac was called a child of Laughter, and why Jacob fathered the 12 tribes.

There are three Elijah which are the Prophets of the Highest Order. Each of them are sons spiritually of Adam His Eminence. (im not talking biological here). That is why Noah in the shoes of Father Adam, fathered three sons, and those three sons fathered the world.

Then look at how Father Adam had three sons in the biological, Cain, abel and seth. These three are pointing to the three Elijah
(Cain was a twin, born with his twin sister, and abel was a twin born with his twin sister. Cain married his own twin sister.)

There is the Law of justification. Where is the justice in Elijah beheading 450 prophets of baal, yet gaining immortality and never dying at all? He was justified, else it could not happen. It is because Elijah John the Baptist took that punishment, which is why he even could be beheaded at all. That is why Elijah John the Baptist was beheaded otherwise no man could touch him.

So the result of Elijah of tishbe beheading 450 prophets of baal was that his brother, John the Baptist would be beheaded. So his actions resulted in his brothers death. While Seth is pointing to the third Elijah, that married the sister of Abel, which was pointing to the husband of the church.

(This is very deep, so please be patient with me).

There is the order of Melchizadek, and the order of the levites. The Elijah are the highest in the order of melchizadek. The 12 Patriarchs are from the order of the levites. The Prophets are of the order of Melchizadek, such as Isaiah, Ezekiel etc...

There is a passage in Malachi 4:5-6 and it is written:

5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord:

6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.


Who are the fathers referred to in this passage?

There are the fathers of the 12 tribes of Israel, which jacob's sons were defining, but are not the true fathers of the 12 tribes

Proof, what tribe is Jacob from? If all the children of the kingdom are apart of a tribe where do you place Jacob? What about Isaac, and Noah, and Enoch, and Abraham? This is proof that they are not the Patriarchs of the 12 tribes.

. You will see that Apostle Peter referred to King David as a Patriarch.

“Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day.”

Why was he called a Patriarch here?

The 12 Sons of jacob were revealing to us, that there are 12 heads, 12 patriarchs of the 12 tribes of Israel. And those are as follows:

Samson, Noah, Enoch
Abraham, Moses, David
Jephter, Zerubbabbel, Joshua
Gideon, Samuel, and Daniel.

These are the true Apostles of the Lamb, meaning they are the true patriarchs of the 12 tribes of Israel. (a lot of what im saying may be difficult to believe - this is for seekers - seekers of the kingdom).

Notice that all that are mentioned here, were great men of GOD? Each one of their exploits are great!

This is the reason why Jesus His Pre-Eminence picked 12 to walk with HIM, in the shoes of the real 12 patriarchs. And among them were three that were set apart. James, Peter, and John. The reason is because they were operating under the tabernacles of:

The Law, the Word, and the Prophet. James was operating under the tabernacle of the Law, Peter the Word, and John the Prophet. The events of Mark 9 was a baptism into those roles. That is why those three only were chosen to go with Jesus His Pre-Eminence to the Mountain of Olives, while the other 9 were not.

You may have noticed, the book of James is very Law orientated, while Peter is peaching the Gospel, and John's writings are sealed, Prophetic, it is from the book of John that we learned about Jesus His Pre-Eminence is the WORD. It is also from his writings that we see clearer, the Gospel that Jesus His Pre-Eminence preached.

But where do the Elijah fit in here? The Elijah are who fathered the 12 Patriarchs of the 12 tribes of Israel.

That is why Elijah is above all in the order of Melchizadek. All of this took place in the fathers Bosom where all the Spirits of the children of the kingdom were produced according to their order.. It is why GOD is the giver of children. The physical body we have is from our bioliogical parents, but we are from the fathers Bosom, sent and baptized by the GOD into our physical body in the wombof our biological mother.

There are three Elijah,:
Elijah of Tishbe,
Elijah John the Baptist
And, The Son of Man, Elijah, the Spirit of Truth is what he was called by Jesus His Pre-Eminence.

each of them fathered 4 sons of the 12. That is why they are equal. How is John the Baptist greater than Elijah that lived forever? They are both Elijah. None is greater than the Elijah. And because the enemies of the kingdom beheaded Elijah John the Baptist, they have not been expecting another. Why would the people have thought, Jesus His Pre-Eminence is Elijah?

When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am? 14And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets. 15He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? 16And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.

The Elijah are called the Son of Man, because they were produced by the Spirit of Father Adam (who was called Man) directly in the Fathers Bosom. And this replayed in the earth, where Father Adam fathered three sons and those three sons fathered the world, africans, caucasians, and asians.

There is none greater in the kingdom, aside the Son of GOD, then Elijah. And each of them represent the LAW, the WORD and the PROPHET.

A lot to take in here. I have alot to explain if im given the time.

I am of no denomination, no belief system that is apart of any church. I have already come out of her.
 
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Also, John the Baptist died so you'd need to justify that in terms of your statement about Elijah never dying.

I'm still liking the thread, even though I'm scutinizing it.

Love in Jesus,
Kelby
I have just explained it.

Great.