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Dino246

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#41
I can't prove a being doesn't exist. The one making the claim has the burden of proof, right?
True, but I have already pointed to evidence.
 
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timps

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#42
True, but I have already pointed to evidence.
The only possible evidence is prophesy but a lot of them are suspect. What does it say when a "god" is so hidden from "His Creation" that people spend a lifetime sometimes "seeking" him and some of them end up in cults. If there was a god who loved his people, he would make himself plain. The choice some people have today is choosing evil or the Tammy Fay Bakers of the world which is all some people will ever see of Chritianity.
 
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timps

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#43
The only possible evidence is prophesy but a lot of them are suspect. What does it say when a "god" is so hidden from "His Creation" that people spend a lifetime sometimes "seeking" him and some of them end up in cults. If there was a god who loved his people, he would make himself plain. The choice some people have today is choosing evil or the Tammy Fay Bakers of the world which is all some people will ever see of Chritianity.
 
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timps

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#44
I didn't think you would have a reply to this.
 
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#45
The only possible evidence is prophesy but a lot of them are suspect. What does it say when a "god" is so hidden from "His Creation" that people spend a lifetime sometimes "seeking" him and some of them end up in cults. If there was a god who loved his people, he would make himself plain. The choice some people have today is choosing evil or the Tammy Fay Bakers of the world which is all some people will ever see of Chritianity.
Christianity would never have existed if it were not for the resurrection of Christ. People do not die for beliefs they know are lies. I take it you have heard of Jesus yes? So how is god hidden from his creation.
 

oyster67

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#46
Is there evidence for god?
Hmmmm. Let's see now. There's the UNIVERSE for one.:)

Its like asking if there is evidence for my mom and dad, or if there is evidence for me.

I walk and talk with my Lord and Saviour every day, so you can see why this question sounds rather silly to me.

Luke 24:15 And it came to pass, that, while they communed [together] and reasoned, Jesus himself drew near, and went with them.

Revelation 3:20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.

Romans 1:19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed [it] unto them.

Hebrews 11:3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.
 

Nehemiah6

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#47
Is there evidence for god?
Of course. The best *natural* evidence is creation itself. Indeed, after seeing the marvels of creation (on either a telescopic or microscopic scale), you have absolutely no excuse. But the best supernatural evidence is the Holy Bible.
 
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#49
Is there evidence for god?
Isa 41:21 Produce your cause, saith the LORD; bring forth your strong reasons, saith the King of Jacob.
Isa 41:22 Let them bring them forth, and shew us what shall happen: let them shew the former things, what they be, that we may consider them, and know the latter end of them; or declare us things for to come.
Isa 41:23 Shew the things that are to come hereafter, that we may know that ye are gods: yea, do good, or do evil, that we may be dismayed, and behold it together.
Isa 41:24 Behold, ye are of nothing, and your work of nought: an abomination is he that chooseth you.
Isa 41:26 Who hath declared from the beginning, that we may know? and beforetime, that we may say, He is righteous? yea, there is none that sheweth, yea, there is none that declareth, yea, there is none that heareth your words.
Isa 41:28 For I beheld, and there was no man; even among them, and there was no counsellor, that, when I asked of them, could answer a word.
Isa 41:29 Behold, they are all vanity; their works are nothing: their molten images are wind and confusion.

Isa 40:21 Have ye not known? have ye not heard? hath it not been told you from the beginning? have ye not understood from the foundations of the earth?
Isa 40:22 It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in.

Isa 46:9 Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me,
Isa 46:10 Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure.

Isa 48:5 I have even from the beginning declared it to thee; before it came to pass I shewed it thee: lest thou shouldest say, Mine idol hath done them, and my graven image, and my molten image, hath commanded them.

God challenges all religions and people to prove their god is true by showing the end from the beginning which God told us the history of mankind.

He told us of 7 kingdoms that will be on earth, Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece, Roman Empire, and the next kingdom is the world split in to 10 sections with a leader in each section a global government, and the 8th king is the New Age Christ who shall deceive the world to rebel against God.

1.Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
2.Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
3.Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
4.For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
5.For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer(1 Timothy 4:1-5).

God warns the saints of the new age movement, and their interpretation of the Bible based on the occult, and evolution, and people are still evolving to be spiritual provided by the New Age Christ, and Jesus is not Lord and Savior, but a good teacher and love, and the Christ conscience came upon him, and he evolved to be an ascended master, and believe in no personal God, but honor the God of forces, or the power of nature as their higher power, the evolutionary process, and the New Age Christ is the final teacher, and they believe the Christ conscience will come upon him, and he will evolve to be greater than Jesus, and share this power with all people who follow him.

They will forbid to marry for a man and a woman for population reduction, and command to abstain from meats, reverence of nature, mother earth.

The new age movement will pave the way to the beast kingdom for all people who do not love God where they will take the mark of the beast, and then repentance and salvation are no longer available to the world, and God will end sin on earth, and have His people will Him.

2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables(2 Timothy 4:2-4).

The time will come when the world will not want to hear the truth of the Bible, but want to hear it according to their own lusts the new age movement.

The New Age Christ will establish peace in the Middle East, and work as a great man of peace, and push the agenda of the new age movement in the world until the world rebels against God then He will end sin on earth.

God told us the history of mankind to identify that He is the one true God.

Nah 2:3 The shield of his mighty men is made red, the valiant men are in scarlet: the chariots shall be with flaming torches in the day of his preparation, and the fir trees shall be terribly shaken.
Nah 2:4 The chariots shall rage in the streets, they shall justle one against another in the broad ways: they shall seem like torches, they shall run like the lightnings.

God said when it is close to Him putting down the world the form of transportation shall be with flaming torches, headlights, and they shall rage in the street, and justle one against another which they will be close to each other, and they shall run like the lightnings which they will move fast.

Nahum did not know to call them automobiles but knew chariots is a form of transportation.

God said He would make Israel a nation again and leave none of them in the nations anymore which they became a nation in 1948.

The New Age Christ will establish peace in the Middle East and it will pave the way for all Jews to go to Israel for the Gentile nations will cause it to happen, and the New Age Christ wants them all back on their land.

Isa 31:4 For thus hath the LORD spoken unto me, Like as the lion and the young lion roaring on his prey, when a multitude of shepherds is called forth against him, he will not be afraid of their voice, nor abase himself for the noise of them: so shall the LORD of hosts come down to fight for mount Zion, and for the hill thereof.
Isa 31:5 As birds flying, so will the LORD of hosts defend Jerusalem; defending also he will deliver it; and passing over he will preserve it.

The 6 day war in 1967 when Israeli fighter pilots paved the way to win that war and take Jerusalem.

Dan 12:4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.
Dan 12:8 And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things?
Dan 12:9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.
Dan 12:10 Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.

Daniel did not understand what was told him concerning the end time but was told to go his way and they would understand it in the future for many shall run to and fro, advanced travel, and knowledge shall be increased, advanced technology, which the saints can see, hear, and know what is happening around the world, and how it is possible for them to come together and rebel against God for they can communicate with each other to have a global government that is not according to the operation of God but evolution is religion.

God said none of the wicked shall understand the end time but the wise shall understand.

Rom 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;
Rom 1:19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
Rom 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
Rom 1:21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
Rom 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
Rom 1:23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

God said creation testifies of a higher power and His attributes which one of them is love for He provided food, and the means to make clothing and shelter so people are without excuse and how the people that did not know the word of God will be judged for love is the fulfilling of the law.
 

notuptome

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#50
The only possible evidence is prophesy but a lot of them are suspect. What does it say when a "god" is so hidden from "His Creation" that people spend a lifetime sometimes "seeking" him and some of them end up in cults. If there was a god who loved his people, he would make himself plain. The choice some people have today is choosing evil or the Tammy Fay Bakers of the world which is all some people will ever see of Chritianity.
Don't confuse excuses with evidence.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 

oyster67

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#51
The only possible evidence is prophesy but a lot of them are suspect. What does it say when a "god" is so hidden from "His Creation" that people spend a lifetime sometimes "seeking" him and some of them end up in cults. If there was a god who loved his people, he would make himself plain. The choice some people have today is choosing evil or the Tammy Fay Bakers of the world which is all some people will ever see of Chritianity.
You need to git lit, my friend...

Psalms 34:8 O taste and see that the LORD [is] good: blessed [is] the man [that] trusteth in him.

Isaiah 55:1 Ho, every one that thirsteth, come ye to the waters, and he that hath no money; come ye, buy, and eat; yea, come, buy wine and milk without money and without price.
 

oyster67

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people spend a lifetime sometimes "seeking" him and some of them end up in cults.
Don't think so.

Revelation 3:20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
 
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#56
The only possible evidence is prophesy but a lot of them are suspect. What does it say when a "god" is so hidden from "His Creation" that people spend a lifetime sometimes "seeking" him and some of them end up in cults.
God is not about rules, He is about Relationship. So, if your belief system is built and based off Rules, you do end up in a circular logic of reason and are very occult like.

If there was a god who loved his people, he would make himself plain.
He does make Himself visible to those who Follow Him. A non believer will [never] see God in anything because they don't desire to find Him nor seek after Him.

The choice some people have today is choosing evil or the Tammy Fay Bakers of the world which is all some people will ever see of Chritianity.
Tammy Fae is a human being who got caught up in a situation where reality stopped existing. She is no different than some hollywood star who looks odd and does strange things but people overlook it because it is hollyWEIRD after all.
 
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timps

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God is not about rules, He is about Relationship. So, if your belief system is built and based off Rules, you do end up in a circular logic of reason and are very occult like.


He does make Himself visible to those who Follow Him. A non believer will [never] see God in anything because they don't desire to find Him nor seek after Him.


Tammy Fae is a human being who got caught up in a situation where reality stopped existing. She is no different than some hollywood star who looks odd and does strange things but people overlook it because it is hollyWEIRD after all.
My point was that people are supposed to make a decision about God and all they can do is look at what they can see and Christianity has a pretty bad name right now. It would be much better if God just came down and showed everybody personally.
 

Roughsoul1991

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#60
The only possible evidence is prophesy but a lot of them are suspect. What does it say when a "god" is so hidden from "His Creation" that people spend a lifetime sometimes "seeking" him and some of them end up in cults. If there was a god who loved his people, he would make himself plain. The choice some people have today is choosing evil or the Tammy Fay Bakers of the world which is all some people will ever see of Chritianity.
he would make himself plain.
He did with Jesus Christ but we killed him. He rose again as explained by his many first and second hand eye witnesses.

Of course you have to conclude the Bible to be accurately transcribed and to be true. Which has been done.