How does a person get into the ' body of Christ ' ?

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throughfaith

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The only time baptism is spoke of in any other way was when John the Baptist said the one coming after him would baptise in fire. Speaking of Jesus.
1 cor 12
13For by one ceremony where we get dunked into water and a man says some words are we all put into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

Erm no !

13For by one Spirit are we all baptized( immersed ) into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

No water mentioned . No hint of water mentioned.
 
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throughfaith

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You are the one that posted the scripture. It doesn't say reconciliation is forgiven through sin ..it says through THE WORD.
19To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

So believers have the above message to share to the lost. Which is 19To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them;
 

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You are the one that posted the scripture. It doesn't say reconciliation is forgiven through sin ..it says through THE WORD.
No it says the word of reconciliation is
19To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them;
Thats 1cor 1.15 1-4 The Gospel
 
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19To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

So believers have the above message to share to the lost. Which is 19To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them;
reconciling the world unto himself
The sins to Jesus ..not reconnecting us to God

not imputing their trespasses unto them;
He didn't let the sins stick to us if we believe

and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
The word is the truth. We can rejoin God.
 

throughfaith

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reconciling the world unto himself
The sins to Jesus ..not reconnecting us to God

not imputing their trespasses unto them;
He didn't let the sins stick to us if we believe

and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
The word is the truth. We can rejoin God.
The last bit is right , if you mean that because of the death ,burial and resurrection and giving of the Holy Spirit the bridge is down everyone can now cross? He's paid for the worlds sins ( not imputing their trespasses against them ) Then yes . Through 1 cor 1.21 . This is good news for everyone.
 

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Well there's no resurrection there?
One does not ask a dead person to come into their heart to be their Lord and Savior. I have stated that one needs to know WHO Jesus IS. He IS the Son of God. Coming to Jesus is NOT complicated. Coming to Jesus is a thing of the heart, not the head. You must be Born Again. It IS that simple. God decides whose heart is ready to receive, not you or I.
 
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Says you . Show me water in Eph 1.13 and 1 cor 15.1-4 ?

So you do recognise that the word ' baptise ' is not always associated with water ?
It would help if baptism were even mentioned there in Eph 1:13 but it's not the word there is a phrase you were sealed, ἐσφραγίσθητε esphragisthēte ,you were sealed.
Neither is baptism mentioned in 1 Cor 15:1-4.
 

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One does not ask a dead person to come into their heart to be their Lord and Savior. I have stated that one needs to know WHO Jesus IS. He IS the Son of God. Coming to Jesus is NOT complicated. Coming to Jesus is a thing of the heart, not the head. You must be Born Again. It IS that simple. God decides whose heart is ready to receive, not you or I.
You believed in a risen christ , correct ?
Acts 17
31Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance ( PISTUS ) unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.

32¶And when they heard of the RESURRECTION of the dead, some mocked: and others said, We will hear thee again of this matter.

33So Paul departed from among them.

34Howbeit certain men clave unto him, and BELIEVED : among the which was Dionysius the Areopagite, and a woman named Damaris, and others with them.

Rom 10 .9
8But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, WHICH WE PREACH ;

9THAT if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt BELIEVE IN THINE HEART THAT GOD HATH RAISED HIM FROM THE DEAD ,THOU SHALL BE SAVED .
 

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One does not ask a dead person to come into their heart to be their Lord and Savior. I have stated that one needs to know WHO Jesus IS. He IS the Son of God. Coming to Jesus is NOT complicated. Coming to Jesus is a thing of the heart, not the head. You must be Born Again. It IS that simple. God decides whose heart is ready to receive, not you or I.
What do you mean by // God decides whose heart is ready to receive, not you or I.// ?
 

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It would help if baptism were even mentioned there in Eph 1:13 but it's not the word there is a phrase you were sealed, ἐσφραγίσθητε esphragisthēte ,you were sealed.
Neither is baptism mentioned in 1 Cor 15:1-4.
Then why isn't such a ' crucial element ' of the gospel absent in those clear passages on the Gospel? Its because we are ' immersed ' in christ s body by the Holy Spirit apart from h20
 

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One does not ask a dead person to come into their heart to be their Lord and Savior. I have stated that one needs to know WHO Jesus IS. He IS the Son of God. Coming to Jesus is NOT complicated. Coming to Jesus is a thing of the heart, not the head. You must be Born Again. It IS that simple. God decides whose heart is ready to receive, not you or I.
// God decides whose heart is ready to receive, not you or I.// I believe the bible says that all are able to come. Response - able . There are no exclusive individuals that God has selected to receive and others he passes by ( if that's what you meant ?)
 
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It you want a real answer on how we become one with God then look into what Quantum Entanglement is. Entanglement doesn't care about time. The Cross is The Way out of this fallen reality. Our souls entangle to God when we open the door.
 

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It would help if baptism were even mentioned there in Eph 1:13 but it's not the word there is a phrase you were sealed, ἐσφραγίσθητε esphragisthēte ,you were sealed.
Neither is baptism mentioned in 1 Cor 15:1-4.
If Acts 2.38 was for the body of christ ,you might have a point. In Acts 2 .38 Israel ( that audience ) needed to be baptised in order to receive the Holy Spirit .
 

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It you want a real answer on how we become one with God then look into what Quantum Entanglement is. Entanglement doesn't care about time. The Cross is The Way out of this fallen reality. Our souls entangle to God when we open the door.
Our Spirit is ' loosed ' from the flesh by the operation of God through the circumcision made without hands.
Col 2
10And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:

11¶In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:

12Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.

13And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;

14Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
 
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Our Spirit is ' loosed ' from the flesh by the operation of God through the circumcision made without hands.
Col 2
10And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:

11¶In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:

12Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.

13And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;

14Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
So "circumcision made without hands" can't be entanglement?
 
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Then why isn't such a ' crucial element ' of the gospel absent in those clear passages on the Gospel? Its because we are ' immersed ' in christ s body by the Holy Spirit apart from h20
In 1 cor 1 he has already addressed that they are baptised. When he addressed the divisions between them.
 
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If Acts 2.38 was for the body of christ ,you might have a point. In Acts 2 .38 Israel ( that audience ) needed to be baptised in order to receive the Holy Spirit .
Except it is for as it's written in verse 39 those far off, and then Philip baptised the Samaritans and the Ethiopian Eunuch, and the first chapter of corinthians clearly states they were baptised.