Who are the NEPHILIM in Genesis 6

[2ndTimothyGroup]

lol.

What did I miss?

Why all of the hostility?

Did someone leave some flowers on the wrong grave at the seminary...I mean cemetery (or do I?)?

Things haven't changed much since the days of Jesus . . . where everyone thought they all possessed the Truth, and that whoever opposed them, well . . . they're wrong!

 

[Live4Him]

Things haven't changed much since the days of Jesus . . . where everyone thought they all possessed the Truth, and that whoever opposed them, well . . . they're wrong!

Once people start angrily defending THEMSELVES, you not only know that there is a problem, but exactly what that problem is.

Christians are supposed to be DEAD to themselves.

Ever seen a DEAD man blow his stack?

Being "set for the defense of the gospel" (Phil. 1:17) is one thing, but when people start defending themselves...well, that's something else altogether.

Anyhow, pardon the interruption.

 

[iamsoandso]

Things haven't changed much since the days of Jesus . . . where everyone thought they all possessed the Truth, and that whoever opposed them, well . . . they're wrong!

The four names in post #207 got me. I watched to see if anyone was going to point out that he was saying he was shown the meanings of the names but nobody caught it,lol. https://www.ccel.org/c/charles/otpseudepig/enoch/ENOCH_2.HTM

 

[2ndTimothyGroup]

Once people start angrily defending THEMSELVES, you not only know that there is a problem, but exactly what that problem is.

Christians are supposed to be DEAD to themselves.

Ever seen a DEAD man blow his stack?

Being "set for the defense of the gospel" (Phil. 1:17) is one thing, but when people start defending themselves...well, that's something else altogether.

Anyhow, pardon the interruption.

Well said. And what happened to the idea that we're to consider others as more important than ourselves? Certainly, this comes with a specific mindset and attitude towards all others.

 

[Live4Him]

Well said. And what happened to the idea that we're to consider others as more important than ourselves? Certainly, this comes with a specific mindset and attitude towards all others.

I get into heated discussions as much (or more) as anybody else does.

I'm just saying that we shouldn't really be defending ourselves.

I've taken a few shots at people who I deem to be a bit hard-headed, but I've also taken many shots myself.

When everything is said and done, I don't genuinely have animosity towards anyone.

Deep concerns?

Absolutely, but we shouldn't be hating on one another or defending institutions.

Anyhow, I've already said too much here.

Have a blessed night.

 

[2ndTimothyGroup]

I get into heated discussions as much (or more) as anybody else does.

I'm just saying that we shouldn't really be defending ourselves.

I've taken a few shots at people who I deem to be a bit hard-headed, but I've also taken many shots myself.

When everything is said and done, I don't genuinely have animosity towards anyone.

Deep concerns?

Absolutely, but we shouldn't be hating on one another or defending institutions.

Anyhow, I've already said too much here.

Have a blessed night.

I have no desire to argue with anyone about anything, here. Those who belong to the Lord are drawn, and these are the ones who will listen. If a person isn't at least willing to listen, they are not drawn, and those who are not drawn cannot understand. Listening and asking sincere questions are the first signs of how to "test the Spirits within" others, for there are "many false prophets" in the world.

 

[Major]

lol.

What did I miss?

Why all of the hostility?

Did someone leave some flowers on the wrong grave at the seminary...I mean cemetery (or do I?)?

I wish I knew. One of our frinds denigated those who have studies at a seminary and I took exception to the idea that all seminaries are false and hence when our friend was exposed....the result was hostility instead of humility.

 

[Major]

Good grief fella, why so hostile?
Am done with you.

Gal. 6:7.......
Do not be deceived: God is not mocked, for whatever one sows, that will he also reap.

 

[Major]

Your meaning L.U. in Virginia(Falwell Jr.)? And E.G.(Glenn) Hinson?

Yes....but not Jr.

Dr. Edward E. Hinson

 

[2ndTimothyGroup]

I wish I knew. One of our friends denigrated those who have studies at a seminary and I took exception to the idea that all seminaries are false and hence when our friend was exposed....the result was hostility instead of humility.

I offered an opinion and you became totally triggered. I didn't respond with hostility . . . you did. But if you want to blame me . . . that's cool. God's True Servants take "beatings" with a different mindset and attitude. It doesn't bother me it you continue to lash out.

Seriously . . . may the Lord grant you the most amazing of Blessings!

 

[2ndTimothyGroup]

Gal. 6:7.......
Do not be deceived: God is not mocked, for whatever one sows, that will he also reap.

Just to be sure . . . you are not equating yourself with God, are you? This is about the Nephilim. Let's get back on track.

 

[Live4Him]

I wish I knew. One of our frinds denigated those who have studies at a seminary and I took exception to the idea that all seminaries are false and hence when our friend was exposed....the result was hostility instead of humility.

I obviously cannot speak for another, but, maybe, he was just sharing his own life's experiences from which he's come to certain conclusions.

Whatever the case may be, Jesus regularly clashed with those who had been brought up "religiously", and he chose people like fishermen and tax collectors as apostles.

This doesn't mean that all who are brought up "religiously" are necessarily bad, but it also clearly shows us that such things as "seminary learning" oftentimes don't mean a doggone thing.

It's best not to paint with a broad brush on either side of the argument.

For me, personally, I've met MANY people who were "seminary trained" who were basically clueless, so I don't put too much stock in seminaries myself.

I actually attended a Bible college many years ago, and the first thing that we were instructed to do was to purchase 10 books written by different "Christian" authors.

I was sitting there thinking, "WHAT?!?".

"Is this a BIBLE college or a place where we're going to be indoctrinated into believing other peoples' beliefs through their writings?"

Unfortunately, it was the latter, and I left the college.

 

[Major]

I have no desire to argue with anyone about anything, here. Those who belong to the Lord are drawn, and these are the ones who will listen. If a person isn't at least willing to listen, they are not drawn, and those who are not drawn cannot understand. Listening and asking sincere questions are the first signs of how to "test the Spirits within" others, for there are "many false prophets" in the world.

I hear you and see that you have completly ignored the root of the hostility. YOU stated that YOU would "not give 2 cents for a seminary degree."

That had absolutly NOTHING to do with the subject of the thread. It was simply a hostile, mean spirited comment which I did not agree with and said so to you.

From that,......YOU took my responce as something personal and we have arrived at this childish open confrontation.

What YOU siad was a personal opinion and it was an insult to those who have degree from Christian seminaries. It should not have been uttered!

I on the other hand should not have said anything to you about your comment. However, one of the things that I have always dealt with in my life is not allowing anyone to be a "bully". I apologize to you for confronting your statement.

 

[Major]

Just to be sure . . . you are not equating yourself with God, are you? This is about the Nephilim. Let's get back on track.

Don't you think that that is a two way street my friend.

 

[2ndTimothyGroup]

I hear you and see that you have completely ignored the root of the hostility. YOU stated that YOU would "not give 2 cents for a seminary degree."

That had absolutely NOTHING to do with the subject of the thread. It was simply a hostile, mean spirited comment which I did not agree with and said so to you.

From that,......YOU took my response as something personal and we have arrived at this childish open confrontation.

What YOU said was a personal opinion and it was an insult to those who have degree from Christian seminaries. It should not have been uttered!

I on the other hand should not have said anything to you about your comment. However, one of the things that I have always dealt with in my life is not allowing anyone to be a "bully". I apologize to you for confronting your statement.

You don't owe me an apology because your words don't bother me. Your being offended and reacting in a manipulative way, so as to cause me to change my experiences, as "@Live4Him has expressed.

So I ask you, Major . . . would you rather that I lie to you and say that all seminaries are good, when that is clearly not what I believe? Or, do you find appreciation in what I have to say, hence, you might ask some clarifying questions? Look . . . just because you are angry, this in itself isn't enough to get me to change what I rightfully believe.

This is about the Nephilim, not seminaries. Let's let the owner of this thread have it back for its intended purposes.

 

[Major]

I obviously cannot speak for another, but, maybe, he was just sharing his own life's experiences from which he's come to certain conclusions.

Whatever the case may be, Jesus regularly clashed with those who had been brought up "religiously", and he chose people like fishermen and tax collectors as apostles.

This doesn't mean that all who are brought up "religiously" are necessarily bad, but it also clearly shows us that such things as "seminary learning" oftentimes don't mean a doggone thing.

It's best not to paint with a broad brush on either side of the argument.

For me, personally, I've met MANY people who were "seminary trained" who were basically clueless, so I don't put too much stock in seminaries myself.

I actually attended a Bible college many years ago, and the first thing that we were instructed to do was to purchase 10 books written by different "Christian" authors.

I was sitting there thinking, "WHAT?!?".

"Is this a BIBLE college or a place where we're going to be indoctrinated into believing other peoples' beliefs through their writings?"

Unfortunately, it was the latter, and I left the college.

I agree completely!

I have also known and still know some who attended Christian schools and are clueless on some Biblical issiues. I also know some great men of God who are preaching today and did not spend one day in a Christian Seminary.

Every place of higher learning has people who have their own ideas and subject those who are younger in those ideas. That not only applies to Christian Seminaries but to all Universities.

There were somethings taught that I did not agree with. We all have to make our own personal choices when we are told something that just does not sound right. Then we are called to do the deeper study of ALL the Scriptures to see if what is said to us is the right thing as we are the ones who have to be accountabile.

I hope that you can understand that when it is said by anyone that "I would not give 2 cents for a Seminary degree"......
that is actually an insult on those who have done just that.

 

[2ndTimothyGroup]

Don't you think that that is a two way street my friend.

You're doing it again. You equated yourself to God (not me) . . . and I was commenting. Why avoid, run, hide, and circumvent?

 

[2ndTimothyGroup]

There were somethings taught that I did not agree with.

Well good grief! If you feel this way, why are you going off on me?

LOL - Ya can't make this stuff up!

 

[Major]

You don't owe me an apology because your words don't bother me. Your being offended and reacting in a manipulative way, so as to cause me to change my experiences, as "@Live4Him has expressed.

So I ask you, Major . . . would you rather that I lie to you and say that all seminaries are good, when that is clearly not what I believe? Or, do you find appreciation in what I have to say, hence, you might ask some clarifying questions? Look . . . just because you are angry, this in itself isn't enough to get me to change what I rightfully believe.

This is about the Nephilim, not seminaries. Let's let the owner of this thread have it back for its intended purposes.

I AM the owner on this thread.

I am not angry my friend and I suggest and agree that we stop this back and forth over something that should not have been said and something that I should nto have replied to.

NO......What you said is your personal opinion and you are intitlied to it. My responce to your opinion was just as valid to me as yours is to you.

Now, did you have anything to add to the subject of the thread?

 

[Live4Him]

I agree completely!

I have also known and still know some who attended Christian schools and are clueless on some Biblical issiues. I also know some great men of God who are preaching today and did not spend one day in a Christian Seminary.

Every place of higher learning has people who have their own ideas and subject those who are younger in those ideas. That not only applies to Christian Seminaries but to all Universities.

There were somethings taught that I did not agree with. We all have to make our own personal choices when we are told something that just does not sound right. Then we are called to do the deeper study of ALL the Scriptures to see if what is said to us is the right thing as we are the ones who have to be accountabile.

I hope that you can understand that when it is said by anyone that "I would not give 2 cents for a Seminary degree"......
that is actually an insult on those who have done just that.

I agree with you up until the last point.

Again, he said "I would not", so isn't he entitled to his own opinion/beliefs?

If we're going to get into heated arguments defending anything, then let that anything be the incorruptible seed of the word of God itself, and NOT learning institutions which are oftentimes breeding grounds for heresy.

That's what I'm saying/suggesting.