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oldhermit

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Why is the Outer Court not mentioned in Heb 9:1-2?
Because the book of Hebrews is following a line of presentation.

In chapter one, he introduces us to Jesus as the conduit of divine communication.

In chapter two, represents Jesus as the perfect representation of humanity. He is the bio-representation of God.

In chapter three, Jesus is the architect of the house of God.

In chapter four, he is the rest giver.

In chapter five, he is presented as the High Priest.

In chapter six, he is the surety of the oath and the promise.

In chapters seven and eight, his priesthood is represented as the superior priesthood.

In chapters nine and ten, he is setting up the tabernacle for the day of atonement and our attention is being drawn more to the High Priest as he prepares to enter the Holy of Holies. The sacrifice is being slain and the blood of atonement is being sprinkled.
 

Magenta

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I like your purple picture and thought of Everlasting Mercy -
What about the Billions Burning in Hell for Eternity, or, are you a Universalist?
Hello and thank you :)

I do not believe it is an either/or equation or situation ;) I am not a universalist, either :D
 

posthuman

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Perhaps some would be interested in doing a study of Daniel first.
To me this and Zechariah and some other things seem like they are prerequisite to understanding the Revelation..

Not that I understand them, but that I do understand well enough that I can't just jump into Revelation without a solid understanding of a lot of other things first ;)
 
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Because the book of Hebrews is following a line of presentation.

In chapter one, he introduces us to Jesus as the conduit of divine communication.

In chapter two, represents Jesus as the perfect representation of humanity. He is the bio-representation of God.

In chapter three, Jesus is the architect of the house of God.

In chapter four, he is the rest giver.

In chapter five, he is presented as the High Priest.

In chapter six, he is the surety of the oath and the promise.

In chapters seven and eight, his priesthood is represented as the superior priesthood.

In chapters nine and ten, he is setting up the tabernacle for the day of atonement and our attention is being drawn more to the High Priest as he prepares to enter the Holy of Holies. The sacrifice is being slain and the blood of atonement is being sprinkled.
That's Excellent -
In Rev 11:8, the Outer Court is referred to "spiritually as Sodom" - no shortage of Sodomites out there.
 
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Live4Him

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carnal-minded mortals think because they quote a scripture verse, that that is the spiritual interpretation.
Such are all those in the Wide Gate to Death with all the Wolves in Sheep's Clothing - Matthew 7:13-15
So, I'm a "carnal-minded wolf in sheep's clothing who is headed down the broad way which leads to destruction"?

Thanks for the laugh.

Oh, one more thing:

Get thee behind me, Satan.

C'ya...
 
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Hello and thank you :)

I do not believe it is an either/or equation or situation ;) I am not a universalist, either :D
I was banned at one christian forum for posting the question -
How could God's Mercy Endureth Forever while He is Burning Billions in Hell for Eternity ?

I guess it's an indelicate question for Eternal Damnationist's
 

posthuman

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Hello and thank you :)

I do not believe it is an either/or equation or situation ;) I am not a universalist, either :D
Yes

Pretty sure Genesis 15 / John 17 demonstrate that God is both perfect in holiness and in mercy.

I'd be pretty stupid to accuse God of evil because He judges sin.
 
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So, I'm a "carnal-minded wolf in sheep's clothing who is headed down the broad way which leads to destruction"?

Thanks for the laugh.

Oh, one more thing:

Get thee behind me, Satan.

C'ya...
So how long have you been a dysfunctional wolf-child? All those spawn of the Wolves in Sheep's Clothing "wrestle with the scriptures unto their own destruction" - II Peter 3:16.
As long as your in II Peter 2 - just read the next chapter.
 

posthuman

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I was banned at one christian forum for posting the question -
How could God's Mercy Endureth Forever while He is Burning Billions in Hell for Eternity ?

I guess it's an indelicate question for Eternal Damnationist's
It's called holiness and the fear of the LORD
 
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I am just curious. If anyone here had an opportunity to examine the book of Revelation from a non-millenialistic approach, would anyone be interested in such a study?
What's your take on the order of events in eschatology?

Time of sorrows, great tribulation, return of Christ, rapture, resurrection, millennial kingdom, second resurrection, great white throne judgement, second death, new heaven/new earth.

Please try to answer the following if you don't mind:
-Do you agree with this chronological order.
-Think it's totally wrong.
-Partially right.
-Order is incorrect.
- Some events should be added or omitted.
- Sime events occur simultaneously and not sequentially.
 
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It's called holiness and the fear of the LORD
It's called Abominable - when Jesus already paid the price for sin:
Ever notice those that have their part in the Lake of Fire? -
But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

sounds like a lot of christians out there.
 

oldhermit

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Let us just say for the moment that I do not agree with the millenial interpretation of Revelation.
 
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What's your take on the order of events in eschatology?

Time of sorrows, great tribulation, return of Christ, rapture, resurrection, millennial kingdom, second resurrection, great white throne judgement, second death, new heaven/new earth.

Please try to answer the following if you don't mind:
-Do you agree with this chronological order.
-Think it's totally wrong.
-Partially right.
-Order is incorrect.
- Some events should be added or omitted.
- Sime events occur simultaneously and not sequentially.
Would be fun to watch him try to jump through your hoops.
 

posthuman

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It's called Abominable - when Jesus already paid the price for sin:
Ever notice those that have their part in the Lake of Fire? -
But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

sounds like a lot of christians out there.
WOW I am honored to know someone worthy of pronouncing judgement on the LORD God Almighty!

Can I touch the hem of your garment?
 

Dino246

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I know there are some on here who do not accept the millennial views. I was just wonder if some of them might be interested in such a study.
I would be interested in such a study, on one condition: that you don't act like the know-it-all teacher, as you have done in the thread on female leadership in the church.

If all you want to do is tell people (your opinion of) what the text means, I won't bother. That's not studying.
 

oldhermit

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#37
I would be interested in such a study, on one condition: that you don't act like the know-it-all teacher, as you have done in the thread on female leadership in the church.

If all you want to do is tell people (your opinion of) what the text means, I won't bother. That's not studying.
Well, Dino, what can I say. I am a teacher. That is what I do. I am delighted to answer questions and examine other opinions. One thing I will not do is descend into argumentation that goes nowhere. I do not accept that in a class room and I refuse to do it here.
 
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To me this and Zechariah and some other things seem like they are prerequisite to understanding the Revelation..

Not that I understand them, but that I do understand well enough that I can't just jump into Revelation without a solid understanding of a lot of other things first ;)
right - most wrestle with revelation as they do other scriptures unto their own destruction - II Peter 3:16
 

iamsoandso

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Let us just say for the moment that I do not agree with the millenial interpretation of Revelation.
Considering the Millennial and the events mentioned that occur just prior to it how do you view https://biblehub.com/interlinear/revelation/19-21.htm and https://biblehub.com/interlinear/revelation/13-15.htm do you see them as fulfilled spiritually or do you see those who don't worship the beast image as though they will be literally killed? In Rev. 19:21 if they are already spiritually dead because of receiving the mark,name worshiping the image ect. are they literally killed also?
 

Dino246

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Well, Dino, what can I say. I am a teacher. That is what I do. I am delighted to answer questions and examine other opinions. One thing I will not do is descend into argumentation that goes nowhere. I do not accept that in a class room and I refuse to do it here.
Then what I suggest is that you offer to teach a study on Revelation. I, for one, come here to discuss, not to told what to believe. ;)