WHICH Bible "version" Is Authorized By God?

[Dino246]

Kurt Aland Died in the sin of Adultery, being married to the college girl in his classroom, 22 years younger (Barbara Nee Ehlers) who he divorced his wife Ingeborg for, who was living at Kurt's death in 1994 (Adultery)

God didnt use Adulterers Kurt Aland or Barbara Nee Ehlers, (Corrupt Trees) That Would Be Contrary To His Words Below.

(But A Corrupt Tree Bring Forth Evil Fruit)

(Neither Can A Corrupt Tree Bring Forth Good Fruit)

Yes Adulterers (Kurt and Barbara Aland) And homosexual union supporter (Carlo Maria Martini) created the Greek Text (Novum Testamentum Graece) that supports new modern versions NIV, NASB, ESV, RSV, Etc

God didnt use these corrupt trees to preserve his word to the world, fact

Foolish repetition of already-refuted claims.

 

[Truth7t7]

So? I guess you forgot a sword hung over his family and he died a lonely old man with a hot virgin beside him to keep him warm.

His family was a disaster and while God forgives, sin has a ripple effect.

Get real. The Bible does not gloss over sin and does not excuse it. If someone dies while unrepentant, does that somehow make every other thing they ever did sinful? Of course not.

You are using a ridiculous line of reasoning to explain why you believe the uninspired KJ is inspired.

I seriously doubt Jesus was speaking of Bible translations in Matthew 7

I seem to remember you have some unbiblical views regarding remarriage as well, stating a person cannot remarry even if their spouse is an adulterous no good piece of work. You are so legalistic, you go waaay past what scripture states.

God didnt use Adulterers, Kurt Aland, Barbara Nee Ehlers to preserve his words in the Novum Testamentum Graece, corrupt fruit, from corrupt trees

100% Biblical, A person cant divorce and remarry while there spouse lives (Adultery)

Matthew 7:16-21KJV
16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

Mark 10:11-12KJV
11 And he saith unto them, Whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another, committeth adultery against her.
12 And if a woman shall put away her husband, and be married to another, she committeth adultery.

 

[Blik]

I Think That version's were made Just to cause Christian's to argue and divide them.

I think the silly arguments bring on this comment. But seriously, I think it is wonderful we have different translations being we do not have the original language as our home tongue. No translation is perfect, it is not possible. We get to compare different ways people who are trying their best to translate interpret the original.

What I strongly object to is saying a certain translation is perfect. If I had my way (haha!) all those KJV is perfect people would see what I am sure is fact. It is a wonderful translation but NOT perfect.

 

[Truth7t7]

I think the silly arguments bring on this comment. But seriously, I think it is wonderful we have different translations being we do not have the original language as our home tongue. No translation is perfect, it is not possible. We get to compare different ways people who are trying their best to translate interpret the original.

What I strongly object to is saying a certain translation is perfect. If I had my way (haha!) all those KJV is perfect people would see what I am sure is fact. It is a wonderful translation but NOT perfect.

One thing I do know, Adulterers Kurt Aland and Barbara Nee Ehlers, produced the Greek (Novum Testamentum Graece), that supports all modern translations NIV, NASB, ESV, RSV, Etc

This Greek Text follows the 1% minority of manuscript evidence in the (Alexandrian Text Type) that has completely (Removed) the verses below, that are found in the KJV

Matthew 17:21, Matthew 18:11, Acts 8:37, Romans 16:24

 

[Dino246]

God didnt use Adulterers, Kurt Aland, Barbara Nee Ehlers to preserve his words in the Novum Testamentum Graece, corrupt fruit, from corrupt trees

100% Biblical, A person cant divorce and remarry while there spouse lives (Adultery)

Foolish repetition of already-posted information.

 

[Dino246]

This Greek Text follows the 1% minority of manuscript evidence in the (Alexandrian Text Type) that has completely (Removed) the verses below, that are found in the KJV

How likely is it that the EARLIEST manuscripts have verses REMOVED? That's simply illogical. It is far more likely that the contested verses were ADDED in the Byzantine manuscripts.

Even without other evidence, which is substantial, the consistent folly of KJV-only arguments is enough to convince me that it is false.

 

[Truth7t7]

How likely is it that the EARLIEST manuscripts have verses REMOVED? That's simply illogical. It is far more likely that the contested verses were ADDED in the Byzantine manuscripts.

Even without other evidence, which is substantial, the consistent folly of KJV-only arguments is enough to convince me that it is false.

Dino your a liberal, I wouldn't expect any different

(King James Translators) 60 God fearing Christian men, scholars in the original biblical languages beyond comparison

(Novum Testamentum Graece) A Greek Text Created by 5 persons behind closed doors, that supports all new translations NIV, NASB, ESV, RSV, ASV, Etc

Out of the 5, Kurt and Barbara were Adulterers, with 1 being a Roman Catholic Jesuit, homosexual union supporter (Carlo Maria Martini)

I'll take the 60 God fearing Christian men, scholars uncompared,in the King James Translation

 

[Nehemiah6]

I guess everyone has a weak spot and the KJ must be yours.

Why is that a "weak spot"? Using the most reliable and trustworthy Bible in the world is a mark of strength and spiritual maturity, since Christendom is venerating the modern versions as idols.

 

[Truth7t7]

Why is that a "weak spot"? Using the most reliable and trustworthy Bible in the world is a mark of strength and spiritual maturity, since Christendom is venerating the modern versions as idols.

I'm in another thread, (Daniel Study) and a poster provided Daniel 11:37

Amazing how the new translations have removed the true Hebrew (KJV-God) and replaced it with polytheistic (NIV-gods)

Also the change of (KJV-Nor The Desire Of Women) to (NIV-The One Desired By Women)

The new translations, hide the identity of the future Antichrist, Little Horn, The Beast?

Daniel 11:37KJV
37 Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.

Daniel 11:37NIV
37 He will show no regard for the gods of his ancestors or for the one desired by women, nor will he regard any god, but will exalt himself above them all.

 

[Nehemiah6]

You will closely note,the NIV hides the identityof the future Antichrist, and drastically changes the meaning.

That is very compelling evidence. Actually if people would carefully go through the modern versions comparing them to the KJB they would discover hundreds of such errors (about 1,700 are doctrinally significant). The fact that Acts 8:37 is missing and its absence renders the passage incomprehensible is another good example. I could post many more but those who are committed to the counterfeit will simply ignore all the discrepancies. Such is the power of Satanic deception.

 

[SophieT]

God didnt use Adulterers, Kurt Aland, Barbara Nee Ehlers to preserve his words in the Novum Testamentum Graece, corrupt fruit, from corrupt trees

100% Biblical, A person cant divorce and remarry while there spouse lives

Oh so I did peg you right. You add to scripture.

apart from that common misrepresentation of God, you have no idea whatsoever or whom or what God will use if He so chooses.

You appear to desire to limit people so you can be the big boss. Might work in your corner of the woods, but certainly not where people are educated and desire truth. A common occurrence in cults and IMO, the King Jimmy fans certainly do demonstrate certain cultish behaviors.

Can A Rightly Divorced Person Remarry?
When the Bible permits divorce, it is so that the wronged or abandoned party may remarry. That’s what a certificate of divorce is. Therefore, in any case where a divorce is biblically permissible, it is by definition also permissible for the wronged or abandoned party to remarry. In Matthew 5:31-32 Jesus says:

It was also said, ‘Whoever divorces his wife, let him give her a certificate of divorce.’ But I say to you that everyone who divorces his wife, except on the ground of sexual immorality, makes her commit adultery, and whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery. (Matthew 5:31–32 ESV)

Here Jesus is simply saying that if a divorce is not legitimate, then the remarriage is not legitimate. If the divorce is legitimate (he uses the word pornea again), then the remarriage is legitimate.

Similarly the Apostle Paul says in 1 Corinthians 7 that if the unbelieving spouse does not want to stay in the marriage and does not want to live with an active and obvious Christian, then the believer should let them go. In such cases the believer is not bound – that is to say they are free to remarry. The Pillar Commentary on 1 Corinthians 7 makes that point clearly:

Not bound here refers to freedom to remarry. Instone-Brewer explains: “The only freedom that makes any sense in this context is the freedom to remarry … [A]ll Jewish divorce certificates and most Greco-Roman ones contained the words ‘you are free to marry any man you wish,’ or something very similar.[2]

If the individual believer had Biblical grounds for divorce, then he or she is permitted to remarry – but only in the Lord (1 Corinthians 7:39).

 

[SophieT]

Why is that a "weak spot"? Using the most reliable and trustworthy Bible in the world is a mark of strength and spiritual maturity, since Christendom is venerating the modern versions as idols.

meaning 'blinded' to see past it
holding a Bible translation as a mark of strength and spiritual maturity is fiction. Christendom is not venerating their Bibles. they simply want to understand their Bibles

now if you say the KJ is being venerated by its adherents, in many cases that would be true

 

[Dino246]

That is very compelling evidence. Actually if people would carefully go through the modern versions comparing them to the KJB they would discover hundreds of such errors (about 1,700 are doctrinally significant). The fact that Acts 8:37 is missing and its absence renders the passage incomprehensible is another good example. I could post many more but those who are committed to the counterfeit will simply ignore all the discrepancies. Such is the power of Satanic deception.

One could just as easily say, "If you go through the KJV and compare it to a modern version you will find hundreds of errors in the KJV."

Save the Kool-Aid (or is it Fool-Aid?) for your cult meetings.

 

[Dino246]

Why is that a "weak spot"? Using the most reliable and trustworthy Bible in the world is a mark of strength and spiritual maturity, since Christendom is venerating the modern versions as idols.

You and Truth7t7 are spiralling down into the depths of folly.

 

[Guojing]

One could just as easily say, "If you go through the KJV and compare it to a modern version you will find hundreds of errors in the KJV."

Save the Kool-Aid (or is it Fool-Aid?) for your cult meetings.

Actually, what is the actual story behind Acts 8:37? Why do so many versions exclude that verse?

 

[Dino246]

Actually, what is the actual story behind Acts 8:37? Why do so many versions exclude that verse?

My Bible has it, but includes a note saying that the earliest manuscripts don't contain it.

 

[Guojing]

My Bible has it, but includes a note saying that the earliest manuscripts don't contain it.

So why was KJV so special to include it?

 

[Lafftur]

I absolutely LOVE the King James Version!

However, the “ONLY VERSION” of God’s Word that is FULLY authorized by God Himself is......... Yeshua/Jesus Christ-The Living Breathing Word of God for all humanity, amen.

It’s NOT a book, it’s God in the form of written words. One MUST have eyes to see and ears to hear..... notice, you don’t need to be highly educated....

 

[Magenta]

You will never learn the answer to your questions if you rely on the KJV rather than the original manuscripts.

Do you have them? Of course not, they do not exist.

It matters to me. I want the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. One contains
a lie and the other is truth. The one that is lying should be thrown out for it cannot be trusted.

How do you know which is which, since by your own admission, originals are not in our possession?

In other words, you cannot know which is right, either.

 

[Lafftur]

That is always ever my only goal. To set an example of how we should try and seek answers together and edify one another. Even if we don't agree, we should strive to agree on the proper method of seeking answers.

The Holy Spirit is the ONE that gives ALL the answers.... No one can learn, know or fully understand God’s Word except by The Holy Spirit.

Even if I knew Hebrew and Greek and could read ALL of the old manuscripts, I still would know NOTHING unless The Holy Spirit gave understanding.